EADD Benzo Discussion V. I forget

[benzoman12345]

I have been articulate with Drs lately , just not taking there pish anymore, they hate it !
The fact that you are telling them facts that they are probably not even supposed to tell you but you are not supposed to be intelligent enough to know.

I told my GP that Tramadol is an SNRI as well as a mild Opiod agonist , she disagreed, totally adamant , looked it up in the book , hey heyyy she was gutted
Exact same with Zopiclone, I told her it is not a benzodiazepine , it is infinity, big book out, OK it's not , told you so

At the pain clinic started talking about Growth Hormone and releasing peptides and stuff , stuff that gets used all over the world with success , these Drs were bedazzled, PAIN Drs in a hospital had no idea what I was talking about.

I think I might take up medicine lol

 

[benzoman12345]

Did you ever go into the docs in one of your benzo rages?

Back in my daft days that I feel so stupid about I stayed awake for 3 days , didn't shave or wash, just so that I could look like my eyes were hanging out of my head which they obviously were, all to get a valium script because I couldn't sleep, the Gp looked at me and said "you're doped out of you're eyeballs", I said drug test me , she did and said come back in 2 hours, so I did and I passed of course, that was then I educated her that Zopiclone was not a benzo and yes I walked away that day with I remember correctly 5x 5mg Diazepam.

Ridiculously embarrassing eh ? That was just 1 of the things I done when on auto-pilot from the BM Blues that contained Phenaz, STADAS.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

I have been articulate with Drs lately , just not taking there pish anymore, they hate it !
The fact that you are telling them facts that they are probably not even supposed to tell you but you are not supposed to be intelligent enough to know.

I told my GP that Tramadol is an SNRI as well as a mild Opiod agonist , she disagreed, totally adamant , looked it up in the book , hey heyyy she was gutted
Exact same with Zopiclone, I told her it is not a benzodiazepine , it is infinity, big book out, OK it's not , told you so

At the pain clinic started talking about Growth Hormone and releasing peptides and stuff , stuff that gets used all over the world with success , these Drs were bedazzled, PAIN Drs in a hospital had no idea what I was talking about.

I think I might take up medicine lol

My Dr disgusted me by only referring to a 20 year old medical text book and giggling about how old and out of date it was. I didnt find it very amusing. Sure they have 7 years training in general practice, but i guess a lot of us here have our own specialist subjects about certain drugs, i tend to try to learn a lot about every substance i take. A friend of mine said her dr was gonna prescribe her tramadol along with her SSRI. I couldnt believe it, dont they even check for dangerous interactions, i was quite appalled really, and they earn £100,000 a year.

 

[benzoman12345]

They don't check at all , they offered me Amitrip to go with my Tramadol, actually a lot of people get prescribed both.

Going off topic here anyway thought this was a benzo thread, what Benzos you guys been liking lately ?

I need to get me some Clonazepam back in stock and off the opiates, Clonaz with Gabapentin, Valium and a bit of will power can sort both my anxiety and muscular pain right out.

Been munching Xanax bars and DHC 120s lately admittedly I have been abusing them for fun because I have been on a "fuck It" mode for a while, Xanax bars are ammune to me now so time to finish em and give it another few months before I touch a Triazolo again, they really help me big time in social situations, I have a habbit of fucking up everything good that comes my way.

2014, fresh go at this bullshit, time to get my life in order and get back to the gym and stop nodding my life away on fuckin codeine !!!

Rant over %)

 

[Sammy G]

A friend of mine said her dr was gonna prescribe her tramadol along with her SSRI. I couldnt believe it, dont they even check for dangerous interactions, i was quite appalled really, and they earn £100,000 a year.

That particular combo isn't contraindicated, you know. Obviously there are dangers, but if both drugs are taken at the correct dosage then it's certainly no more dangerous than some of the illegal combos used by Bluelighters day in, day out.

They don't check at all , they offered me Amitrip to go with my Tramadol, actually a lot of people get prescribed both.

True. And again, this combo isn't inherently dangerous if both drugs are dosed correctly.

I think that all too often on this forum (in this thread especially) there's a culture of doctor-bashing; usually because they refuse to prescribe us drugs which we believe will benefit us. Which invariably means something with recreational potential, even if that recreational potential is minimal, as in the case of benzos.

There are clueless doctors out there, but the majority are dedicated individuals with concern for the welfare of their patients. Maybe we should be grateful that they even give us the time of day, rather than slagging them because they don't break out the goof balls for us.

Just saying, like.

Ridiculously embarrassing eh ? That was just 1 of the things I done when on auto-pilot from the BM Blues that contained Phenaz, STADAS.

BM blues?

Have you been spending too much time with Dr Robotnik or something? :D

 

[mydrugbuddy]

That particular combo isn't contraindicated, you know. Obviously there are dangers, but if both drugs are taken at the correct dosage then it's certainly no more dangerous than some of the illegal combos used by Bluelighters day in, day out.

Eh Everything ive ever read including a big fat dictionary of drugs says the combo is very high risk due to serotonin syndrome risks. I cant remember if it said DO NOT EVER PRESCRIBE THIS COMBO or PROCEED WITH EXTREME CAUTION but it was certainly one of the 2.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

I think that all too often on this forum (in this thread especially) there's a culture of doctor-bashing; usually because they refuse to prescribe us drugs which we believe will benefit us. Which invariably means something with recreational potential, even if that recreational potential is minimal, as in the case of benzos.

There are clueless doctors out there, but the majority are dedicated individuals with concern for the welfare of their patients. Maybe we should be grateful that they even give us the time of day, rather than slagging them because they don't break out the goof balls for us.

Just saying, like.

OK, yeah I'll give you that one, gulitly as charged, guv.

However. the dr at the subutex clinic told me to swallow the pills before my test results came back as negative. Everyone who takes subs knows to take them sublingually if they dont IV them as the oral bio avail is only ~10%, SL around 40-50% i think. Is it any wonder ive lost a huge ammount of respect for gps and these types of clinics over the last couple of years. Im sick to death of drs asking "how do you spell etizolam" next time i might say F.F.S. and be a complete twat, but it gets extremely annoying. No, in fact I'll probably just tell them i use diazepam next time, if that comes up again.

 

[Sammy G]

Yes, it's potentially dangerous if the dosages are not carefully controlled.

To slate a doctor merely for prescribing the two drugs in conjunction is totally unfair, as it's a combo that very rarely presents any problems in reality.

OK, yeah I'll give you that one, gulitly as charged, guv.

Oh, I don't exclude myself from the doctor-slagging thing. I've done it quite often in the past. Maybe I should've made that clear.

It's a druggie thing rather than being exclusively a BL thing.

 

[benzoman12345]

Spending too much time with DrRobotNik , naw mate

 

[mydrugbuddy]

even if that recreational potential is minimal, as in the case of benzos.

Maybe we should be grateful that they even give us the time of day, rather than slagging them because they don't break out the goof balls for us.

wow ymmv massively, i find the recrational potential of benzos amazing, but variable..

thats a rarely expressed view that 2nd bit, by international standrads i think most people in the uk , myself included, take it for granted and have come to demand our full right to the very best health care. To turn up and receive substandard care and attention is pretty shit. Its a production line for them with thaier targets and their quotes if you are gonna take more than 10 minutes to deal with, you present a probelm for them thatg theyd rather not have, as it would spend a lot of time to solve, and theyd fail their quotas if they had too many difficult cases.

 

[Glitched]

I've used clonazepam, diazepam, temazepam, midazolam and alprazolam in the past. I'm no expert but have used them to chill, sleep and come down off stims, like coke, MDMA etc. years ago I had a contact who could get me any benzo (nearly) that I wanted. I used to get 10mg Diaz off him and the purple 1mg xanax (alprozalam).

Now I knew that they were not proper from a pharmacy, I knew that the Diaz probably had 5mg tops and the xanax 0.5. But they were alright at the time and did a job.

I got a new contact and tried some of his xanax for the first time the day before yesterday. Took 0.5mg (half a pill) and within 20 minutes felt AMAZING!!!! Turns out the ones I was taking before must have been shit because this was awesome. I finished it off with literally 4 lines of gear and that was it.... Noddy time for me!

I just wanted to share that with you all! Intravenous Midazolam is still my favourite benzo, but I tell you, this Xanax is lovely lol!!!, I've had to really use all of my self control not to take it again since because I know what I'm like and I'll end up with a habit!

 

[Dark Side]

I still stuck with 2.5mg in the end despite effing it up, im not gonna drink what so ever until im off the vallys been a whole week now since i had a drink. Sleep got alot better last night i slept for like 9 hour with no interruptions. Then again i was smoking some good cheese which always helps

Where was with all the drinking my mind felt too active to drop off, you know when you are about to fall asleep and your mind drifts mine wasnt doing that and i kept waking up after fuck all hours

edit- i tried messaging you benzoman but your inbox is full

 

[benzoman12345]

Emptied my inbox bro

 

[AcidTrippin]

Is it possible the increased chance of seizure due to benzo withdrawal can be increased due to 1: Withdrawals 2: Bashing other drugs such as those affected by serotonin extremely heavily 3: Fatigue, all combined to increase the % risk? Or does this sound unlikely?

 

[benzoman12345]

Taking drugs that effect serotonin definitely increases chance of seizure, I think if you are doing a detox/taper you should not mess with anything else that effects the brain in ways like that, although that being said , the clinic that I have to go to, their way of getting people of benzos is by slowly tapering the benzos whilst upping eiher an anti-psychotic or anti-depressant, both of these have rebounds and W/D's from SSRIs and SNRIs are fuckin nasty, I am going through it ATM with Tramadol, I went through it before with Citalopram, Tramadol is fuckin nasty man, I changed back to Co-Codamols at my request and now I am just going to have to go through the pain for about 2 weeks until it goes away, brain shocks going through your whole body, a bit off topic there, but yes to answer your question.

 

[brimz]

I saw some of the Green Elixir today .

I wonder who was getting it , my chemist wouldn't break confidentiality n tell me who scripted it either

 

[wcote]

Looks like I could be getting clonazepam for my epilepsy. It is still well controlled but I have the odd one or two a year. So they are thinking of giving me clonazepam, unlikely full time. Only likely if I'm extremly tired as that whats sets me off.

Due to my past abuse of opiates and benzos they will only give me a small number and keep careful watch on how many I order. but if I do get it I will be thankful.... its sorta like having extra painkiller for break through pain.

 

[benzoman12345]

Clonazepam is a really good pain killer for muscular pain, I get muscle spasms in my back and it's amazing for it, need to get me some more soon

 

[AcidTrippin]

Down to 1mg Xanax x2 a day, safe to go next day .5mg x2 then .25mg then x1 .25mg then none? So realistically taper this off within next 3-4 days?

 

[mydrugbuddy]

how long have you been taking the xanax ?

If its years rather than weeks, id do those drops on a weekly basis rather than every day. If your habit has been short term, just a month or so or less, you could probably get away with a savage taper like that and have nothing worse than some rebound anxiety and insomnia.

I should probably start thinking about starting my etiz taper soon, i really dont want to even contemplate it atm, i guess i could start cutting my bedtime dose by 1/4 a pill a week or something, i fall asleep instantly, so the dose is obviously plenty high enough, and 1/4 pill a week should barely be noticeable. In fact ive talked myself into it, im reducing by 1/4 of a pill tonight, and will continue dropping the niughttime dose by that amount until insomnia starts to become an issue, and then wait to re-adjsut.