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EADD Benzo Discussion V. I forget

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MA's are good but I got VAL-10's instead I definitely think they are more potent plus I get scripted actavis and you can taste Diazepam instantly from the indian ones unlike the actavis from the chemist, probably just the way they are made, I don't see the point in buying Roche to me these are as good as it gets. Gna get some Clonaz again soon but that shit fucks your tolerance if you keep on taking it so I just get it now and again, but the Xanax bars are going nowhere lol
 
Drunk, unhappy, thank god i got my bro to vent too. One person i can connect with well had shit sleep for 2 days im about to screw up my taper again. BUT FUCK IT
 
benzoman12345 said:
MA's are good but I got VAL-10's instead I definitely think they are more potent plus I get scripted actavis and you can taste Diazepam instantly from the indian ones unlike the actavis from the chemist, probably just the way they are made, I don't see the point in buying Roche to me these are as good as it gets. Gna get some Clonaz again soon but that shit fucks your tolerance if you keep on taking it so I just get it now and again, but the Xanax bars are going nowhere lol
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I've a cracking guy for MAs. Now I know they're bathtub but they're some of the cleanest and proper dosed Diazepam I get included the Bensidin I've been getting lately. He's just a nightmare to et hold of.

All Clonazepam do for me is make time disappear. find them not at all recreational in the sense that you feel them coming on and maybe get a wobble. Theres a very fine line between feeling relaxed and just blacking out. I blame it on all the EU stuff being 2mg pills as no one really wants .5s and .25s. I had a batch last week from the Galenika factory and I haven't a boldy what I done. I do know that I owe a mate £150 for charlie! Thats about all.
 
kingme said:
find xanax where? like if i tried it?

i always drop 1.5mg before a dentist appointment. shit is worth it for that alone!
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Rubbish for me. No recreational nice "bliss" type feel. If you want to sleep after a sesh get clonaz.

Even etizolam is much better reacreationally aswell as dealing with anxiety and sleep issues.
 
Xanax has a speedy effect on me in the mornings, and couple of bars goes nice at night with a couple of DHC and a couple cheese joints , first I've done this in a while :)

Clonaz for me is a really good pain killer as well as anti-anxiety med because of it's muscle relaxant properties and I have a bad back , I think Etiz definitely has a place but it's not something I want to be taking during the day.
 
xanax why even at 2.5mg atleast am i not sleepy aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahgfh.

clonaz lost me months fuck that shit, all the half life benzos aint for me even though i love them.
 
Very heavy indeed mate. I ate 20mg last Saturday and remember f**k all. Wasn't running about the street like a madman like you do on Xanax. First time I got hold of them them I thought I'd hit the mother load but I really don't find them all that good. Don't want to get into the whole "euphoria" debate about benzos but they offer nothing imo. Just total anxiolytic effects. No muscle relaxation at all (for me anyway) Suppose thats what they're for. I just can't get the les is more thing into my head with most drugs.

And like I posted above there's a very fine line between being chilled and loosing days. Decided to let my sister hold onto my stash for the foreseeable future. Funny thing is I don't even really have anxiety. I use them for hangovers but if they are there and I'm bored well, you know how it goes:)

Last year went way too quick. It actually scared me. I'm 37. Wanna get this under control before I wake up in my 50s and go "what the f**k happened there!

I ended up over doing it on the Etis last night. absolutely waste of pills. I get browned off every time I do it. Less is definitely more. There's just no point in taking more than 3-4. I ate 2 strips. I think it was as to potentiate the DHC I took but that certainlu didn't require 2 fucking strips.

Fuck them. I've came to the conclusion they're pish anyway. Back to the gold standards for me next week.

Diazepam.
 
Less is more indeed

i try and keep my tolerance down, dont like getting too messy on em. took a 2mg clonaz a few months ago ontop of half a 70cl vodka, blacked out lol
 
Wish i listened to benzoman, your right Alcohol was fucking dumb of me. I was supposed to be on 2.5mg a day for 2 weeks. fucking fat chance of that cos i got 12.5mg left and i dont see the doc till 14th so im gonna have to make an emergency appointment again. Ended up taking 10 mg last night and drank a bottle of wine just to get some sleep.

really need to sort myself out, all the alcohol binging just gave me insomnia i feel like such an idiot.

At the begining of my taper when i started to feel normal again after a while, all my old drug habits just slowly started up again. But yeah Alcohol and benzo taper = Pointless
 
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Maybe you are not ready to quit benzos DS, it sounds like maybe you have some other things to get a hold of in your life 1st of all, you sound stressed, I think taking benzos at a maintenance dose until you have sorted your life out , Alcohol or any other problems, then think about tapering the Valium or whatever benzo, just my thoughts mate ;)
 
Well i try explaining to the Doctor, who wasnt my normal doc. She just give me 2 yellows and wants me to maintain 2.5 mg. Fk sake what GP's know anyway absolute f all thats what.
 
Its so variable from doctor to doctor thats what really annoys me, previous doctors had been totally adamant with me that they would not help me get bupe, then finally just as im more or less ready to quit the stuff i speak to a doctor that says everyone else had been too harsh and that their surgery does do bupe urine tests and prescriptions. At this stage i dont want it though, but if that was offered to me months ago Id have saved hundreds of pounds and possibly maybe managed to get off the stuff quicker with a managed supervised taper rather than having to get my own by various means. Im tempted to put in some sort of official complaint / sue the cunts, it really is a fucking bad & very inconsistent practice but thats just a negative waste of energy to go down that road.
 
I know what you're saying, MDB, but look at it from their point of view.

You weren't using street heroin, you have a stable living situation and you're in pretty good health. Most of the people they provide buprenorphine scripts to are in desperate need of something with which to stabilise their lives. Moreover, the substance which you were using prior to buying subs (AH-7921) is one that most addicts haven't even heard of, let alone doctors.

It's still harsh, of course, but your circumstances were very different to most.

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Fk sake what GP's know anyway absolute f all thats what.
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They know enough to be sure that long-term benzo use is not a good idea by anybody's standards. You're lucky to get what you did.
 
My normal Doc is sound as a pound, he has let me be in control of it like i mentioned earlier in the thread but as it was an emergency appointment they just stick you with any DR. Anyway im not that stressed right now my brain feels fine. Felt a shit load worse when i was drinking i swear it just brings WD symptoms out

Good thing is i only live about 2 mins from doctors, so if i screw up i can just pop in
 
by some fluke i think i must have tugged at the heart strings of the last dr i spoke to, where as to the others i may have come accross as just a despicable drug fiend or something, this was clear from the cold uncaring manner of one dr in particular, once i resigned my job my main dr lost all respect for me. So much for being non judgemental, such a thing does not exist outside of counselling or drugs support workers.
 
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by some fluke i think i must have tugged at the heart strings of the last dr i spoke to, where as to the others i may have come accross as just a despicable drug fiend or something, this was clear from the cold uncaring manner of one dr in particular, once i resigned my job my main dr lost all respect for me.
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A lot does depend on the doctor, yeah. And it's shocking to think that you'd be looked down upon for leaving your job. That's not acceptable.

At the same time, some of your posts from around a year ago on the subject did make it sound as if you expected the doctors to provide your drugs for you. That may not have been the case, but you can imagine that doctors are on the lookout for such things.

mydrugbuddy said:
So much for being non judgemental, such a thing does not exist outside of counselling or drugs support workers.
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I wouldn't say that. I've encountered no judgmental attitudes from mainstream healthcare professionals even when I've turned up for blood tests with fresh tracks.

Maybe in some cases you've mistaken professional concern for something else? I don't know.
 
Maybe i am being a bit harsh, some of them have been OK and caring, some of them have been ice cold, no mistaking that. Maybe my own attitude has been off on occasions, i certainly would have come accross as "drug seeking" at times, i wasnt working any angles, i was just blatantly more or less saying "please give me a bupe prescription" and that approach clearly did not work. The last conversation was in relation to renewing my mirtazapine prescription, i answered all the drs questions honestly, and then she said 'it seems harsh to me that youve been denied bupe, we can arrange a urine test if you want'. I declined. :\
 
lol, i did speak my mind very directly to one doctor, after she refused to even look up a substance she hadnt even heard of, when i gave her the gptraining website url, it must have deeply offended her lol, i said something like 'they dont know what they are doing either' when talking about the clinic that had declined me a bupe script. For some reason things were never the same with that dr again lol, so i dont see her any more. I was never in a rage or aggressive with any dr, i was probably very rude though.
 
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