Opioids Which legal opioid is the most euphoric?

[Sanctorum]

THIS TOPIC IS URGENT BECAUSE I'M VISITING THE PSYCHIATRIST TONIGHT!

As I said in another thread, I'm a psychology student and I'm performing a research with my psychiatrist for the replacement of alcohol's, cannabis', cocaine's and heroin's euphoria.

So, which legal opioid that CAN BE PRESCRIBED BY A PSYCHIATRIST IN EUROPE do you consider the most euphoric?

(I'm not a heroin or cocaine or cannabis' abuser, I only have some kind of mild alcoholism which I don't even consider a problem. The study concerns other people too.)

THIS TOPIC, AS WELL AS ALL YOUR REPLIES, ARE ABSOLUTELY LEGAL AND APPROVED BY THE PSYCHIATRIST FOR RESEARCH.

 

[Sweet Jones]

I'm not sure if I should answer, are you absolutely certain that my reply is both legal and approved by your psychiatrist for research?

 

[thefanod]

Erm.. euphoric..? Try non prescription opiods/opiates.. Buy some poppy seeds or kratom.. But if you insist on pills..
7. Codine. (may be over the counter with apap in some places in europe) 200mgs for a decent buzz most pills come in 5,8,15,30,60 mgs
6. Hydrocodone (also may be over the counter in some syrups.) 20-40mgs for a decent buzz most come in 2.5,5,7.5,10,15,20,25,30mgs
5. Oxycodone from 20-40 mgs for a good buzz most come in 5,7.5,10,15,20,25,30,40,50,60,80,120,mgs
4. Hydromorphine any where from 4-8 mgs nasaly most come in 1,2,4,6,8,10,20mgs
3. Oxymorphine for a awesome buzz try 10-30 mgs (i dont know the doses and its too late for research)
2. MORPHINE!! :D anywhere from 30-60mgs for a god given buzz (also dont know doses.. )
1. fentanyl In my opinion a few steps above herion dont know doses or how much for a buzz,

 

[Halif]

GOOD GOD, I CAN SEE WHY THIS THREAD IS URGENT!!!!!!!!!

ACtually, no I can't. I have no idea what can of study you're doing with a psychiatrist to determine which opiate is most euphoric.

Euphoric to who? Thefanod posted a list above which I personally don't agree with. Know why? Because 'euphoria' from opioids is entirely subjective. Also, which opioids are LEGAL and can be prescribed by a psychiatrist in EUROPE. Who knows that? Probably you would know best, and seeing as you're doing this research with a psychiatrist, surely they'd be the one to ask.

Know why I'm being a prick? BEACAUSE I SAW ALL THE CAPS AND THE URGENT, URGENT talk and then I read this shit.

Either just ask your question directly and then wait for an answer, or do the research yourself. THis whole thing about "I need an answer NOW!!!" is irritating. SHow some patience.

 

[Cartesia]

Definitely a misuse of the urgent tag...

Also wonder why the psychiatrist is deferring to the psychology student (and why the psychology student is deferring to a public forum of unverified knowledge) for drug information.

 

[missmeyet?]

GOOD GOD, I CAN SEE WHY THIS THREAD IS URGENT!!!!!!!!!

ACtually, no I can't. I have no idea what can of study you're doing with a psychiatrist to determine which opiate is most euphoric.

Euphoric to who? Thefanod posted a list above which I personally don't agree with. Know why? Because 'euphoria' from opioids is entirely subjective. Also, which opioids are LEGAL and can be prescribed by a psychiatrist in EUROPE. Who knows that? Probably you would know best, and seeing as you're doing this research with a psychiatrist, surely they'd be the one to ask.

Know why I'm being a prick? BEACAUSE I SAW ALL THE CAPS AND THE URGENT, URGENT talk and then I read this shit.

Either just ask your question directly and then wait for an answer, or do the research yourself. THis whole thing about "I need an answer NOW!!!" is irritating. SHow some patience.

Im thinking he is going to see his doc and wants to know before he gets there which medication he should ask for (for himself)..and of course he wants the one that is going to make him feel the best he can..as far as euphoria goes. Which, if that is the case, makes this whole thread TOTALLY AGAINST THE RULES HERE AT BLUELIGHT!!! (had to get in on the caps thing!)..since we do not give advice on what medications to ask your doc for or assist anyone in what to say or do in order to obtain meds from doctors. That is just my 2 cents...maybe it is research but I have a feeling there is more to it than that...research into which will make him feel the best.

*EDIT*

OOPS, I just read the OPs other thread and I was VERY right. He is asking because he wants to know what he can get to take for himself. (See his other thread here: http://http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/703512-Ritalin

Like I said before Sanctorum, if you really are looking so that you know what to ask a doc for than this is totally against the rules here at BL. It is also very intentionally misleading..not very nice.

 

[Toz]

There are no good legal opioids. All fentanyl analogues are crap. Mt-45 is crap. W-15 is crap. AH-7921 is a decent painkiller but it's still also just crap when it comes to getting high. O-desmethyltramadol was the only decent one that existed but it just vanished into thin air.

For prescribed opioids the most euphoric one I have used is ketobemidone. It's really inaccessible to everyone else in the world so I'd go with hydromorphone instead. But if I were you I'd stay as far the fuck away from opioids as possible unless you need them for pain. All they do is ruin lives really.

 

[Cartesia]

For the record sanctorum, that last bit you added at the end totally fooled me, I completely believed you were legit after you told me you were. 8)

 

[MrSpeedyG]

For all the idiots who have not already realised, he is asking which RC opiate he can obtain legally to get high for his own benefeit.

False use of URGENT tag. Wanker.

 

[missmeyet?]

For all the idiots who have not already realised, he is asking which RC opiate he can obtain legally to get high for his own benefeit.

False use of URGENT tag. Wanker.

Yeah it is kind of bullshit. His whole story on the other thread totally makes no sense at all and if you look at it it will make you want to laugh.

I wouldnt encourage him by giving him any answers. Why not just come right out and ask what you are really asking? It doesnt make any sense...is that just his "cover" (kinda like when people use "SWIM" and "my pet dog" etc)?

 

[Halif]

Why not just come right out and ask what you are really asking? It doesnt make any sense...is that just his "cover" (kinda like when people use "SWIM" and "my pet dog" etc)?

Yeah exactly. I was a bit harsh in my sarcastic post, but that's what irritated me. Instead of using lots of caps and claiming it's URGENT, why not just ask your question directly - or better yet, don't ask it because "What's the most euphoric blah blah?" has been asked a billion times already.

It's an abuse of the board to make up bogus stories for one's self gain and claim it's a matter of utmost importance.

FFS, just read up - there's millions of threads comparing opiates/opioids/RC opioids - and make your own decision.

Sanctorum: sorry for being a sarcastic prick. Just recently there have been real emergencies, like Lemongaga's threads about inhalants - now there's a person who needs help NOW.

If you are able to PM, I could give you some info which may help you come to a decision. Otherwise, just check out the threads that already exist on BL. There's lots of good info on here. Good luck.

 

[missmeyet?]

It's an abuse of the board to make up bogus stories for one's self gain and claim it's a matter of utmost importance.

This is what annoyed me so very badly..I am sure people lie often on the forum quite a bit but to blatantly make up some long detailed story (between this thread and his other thread) that is total bullshit. Rather than do that and have people waste their time giving explanations and advice..next time just come straight out and ask what you want to..besides, it make you look rather unintelligent when you say things as if they were a fact when others know the information is just flat out not true.

Anyway OP, welcome to BL. This is a great community and people here are generally very helpful and empathetic but next time just ask the real question rather than feed people full of bullshit..it tends to irritate some and starts you off on not the greatest foot. So please don't hesitate to come out and just ask what you are trying to ask. It also makes it a lot easier for us to give you correct and true information based on the truth.

 

[MrSpeedyG]

He doesn't need to come straight out, because anyone who can put 2 and 2 together will know what he really means is the following...

Which opiate RC will get me high? Where do I get it from? I am saying its with a psyc and its all legal, just to cover my ass and take advantage. I didn't read the BLUA by the way. So where can I get it guys?

End of source request.

 

[missmeyet?]

He doesn't need to come straight out, because anyone who can put 2 and 2 together will know what he really means is the following...

Which opiate RC will get me high? Where do I get it from? I am saying its with a psyc and its all legal, just to cover my ass and take advantage. I didn't read the BLUA by the way. So where can I get it guys?

End of source request.

Ok..if you say so.

 

[Halif]

I am saying its with a psyc and its all legal, just to cover my ass and take advantage. I didn't read the BLUA by the way. So where can I get it guys?

LOL! Good translation

It's just as you say, MrSpeedy, anyone can see that it's a weirdly veiled attempt at asking for something, and that's why the URGENT thing bothered me. It's unnecessary to make up crazy stories. Heaps of people have posted opioid comparison and legality threads before. It's all here.

This is the crux of this unfortunate trend in many posts lately:

1. It's obvious the person hasn't done any reading for themselves - either on their own query or of the BLUA (that's the BlueLight rules, by the way, for anyone unsure of the acronym)

2. Labelling something as URGENT, or simply saying "I need an answer like, in the next ten minutes"

It all comes across as someone being very self-absorbed. The message comes across as : "I want something and I want it now. So you do it for me. Now."

OK, I think I've complained enough. Not singling you out OP, I think the reason myself and others are irritated by this is because it's becoming all too common, and it makes me wonder why I've contributed some 700 posts if no one is going to read them or any of the other wealth of info that is right here on the forum.

And let's spare a thought for the mods who patiently tell people the same things day in, day out: read the rules, read the rules, read the rules.

 

[bingey]

hah legal.

go do some law studies nothing is "legal" per say.

 

[Rybee]

Bluelight is not here to help you source the most euphoric high from your Psych.

As missmeyet says, best to refrain from encouraging them by providing any more answers.

 

[Sanctorum]

Okay, all of you, STOP SPAMMING. I'll just give you a few answers:

In Psychology I haven't learned much about medicines yet. Especially what's the best opioid for heroin abusers and things like that. You are completely mistaken. This thread is absolutely legal and my psychiatrist absolutely trusts my judgement to do this research and give the pills to heroin addicts (not to take them myself, although I'll test them on me first).

Psychiatry is not much organized here. You don't have to tell the doctor if you are allergic to some substance to prescribe it to you, so my research is as safe as his job is.

What I want is a substance to help heroin addicts (friends) to stop using heroin. I actually ask them for their problems, the reasons they are addicted to a substance etc. for a long time (since they are my friends) and then judge what kind of buzz would save them. I don't get it, what's your problem with that?

Anyway, my conclusion is that Fentanyl would do its job, although it has many brand names and I will ask for the psychiatrist's judgement for which one to take. I guess Tramadol and Lonalgal could work as well in larger doses, but it depends on the person using them.

By the way, while they are testing those pills I have to make sure they won't use heroin too, so I also have to make sure they won't have severe withdrawal symptoms because I gave them a substance that just can't work as it is supposed to.

 

[Rybee]

Dude are you for real? I've seen some bizarre threads on BL but this one takes the biscuit. I've never heard something so abusrd.

 

[Halif]

Yeah, this is bizarre for so many reasons. Your research leads you to believe that fentanyl would be best to help heroin users... and you're going to test it on yourself first... after a psychiatrist gives it to you...

I hope that this is all a hoax, because it's actually really scary.