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ETH-LAD rumors, any truth to them? (is an ETH-LAD batch in the works?)

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So I've seen several posts on the web about a supposed ETH-LAD batch that's supposed to hit the market sometime soon but is there any truth to this? Anybody got some inside info? I know HoffmanBlotter supposably has the GC/MS. Shulgin claims ETH-LAD is very unstable so I can't see why vendors would custom synth a chemical that has poor stability but then again this stuff is likely to sell very fast so it's not that unbelievable. I don't want this thread to turn into pure speculation although I will admit that's kinda hard at this point but would like to know if anybody has some real info on this subject possibly handed on to them from reputable vendors and such.
 
In TiHKAL #12 Shulgin remarks:

"I suspect that this material is rather unstable in solution, even as the tartrate in dilute saline, although I cannot guess why that should be. A few months in the dark, at zero degrees and in the absence of air, led to a very real drop in potency, measured by a control assay of a freshly made solution of the same nominal concentration. "

It is probably as stable as other lysergamides in crystalline form, or only somewhat less stable.

On a different note: were AL-LAD and LSZ not potent enough? I suppose maximum potency -> maximum profit, and we don't know of any psychedelic stronger than ETH-LAD.
 
On a different note: were AL-LAD and LSZ not potent enough? I suppose maximum potency -> maximum profit, and we don't know of any psychedelic stronger than ETH-LAD.
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As long as it's sold on blotters then I see no problem with that.
 
There are rumors about a new batch of AL-LAD/LSZ and after that another lysergamide. Some are saying it's eth-lad, but I don't think it's been confirmed, so I could be something else. As for the stability.... al-lad was said to be quite unstable, but it's stable enough on blotters.
 
Yeah, I think that stuff about them being "unstable" was just bullshit. They're just as potent today as they were 6 months ago. I imagine if you stored them in the freezer they'd be fine six hundred years from now.
 
CaptainKratom said:
I know HoffmanBlotter supposably has the GC/MS.
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HofmannBlotter said they could send me the GC/MS and never did, even when I asked for them.

I seriously doubt the next lysergamide is going to be ETH-LAD.
 
Sorry mate, I had an overdose of 2C-P on the 20th December, i was unable to be here :) Hit me up, i will reply as soon as i can.
 
abrad84 said:
Why not post them in the thread so that everybody can see?
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Because HofmannBlotter is either a troll, being trolled, or being scammed.

HofmannBlotter just sent me some feedback and instructed me to "keep it secret". I am not going to for the following reason:

The picture HofmannBlotter sent is this uncommented GC/MC... which is PIXEL FOR PIXEL identical to another one posted on BL in 2011 here. I found out by using the google image function "search with picture".
 
ZFC said:
Because HofmannBlotter is either a troll, being trolled, or being scammed.

HofmannBlotter just sent me some feedback and instructed me to "keep it secret". I am not going to for the following reason:

The picture HofmannBlotter sent is this uncommented GC/MC... which is PIXEL FOR PIXEL identical to another one posted on BL in 2011 here. I found out by using the google image function "search with picture".
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Well that sucks, care to explain HB?

Toz said:
I have seen LSB been sold online, people bought it and tripped. If it was really LSB or not I have no clue though.
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I've also seen it offered on a few sites a little while back but I've yet to see proof that it was indeed LSB although I will admit I never bothered to look very far.
 
I tried the supposed LSB...it was a nbome...numbed my tonge and tasted like a nbome
 
redeyesmj said:
I tried the supposed LSB...it was a nbome...numbed my tonge and tasted like a nbome
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Same thing happened to an acquaintance - bought LSB from some rc vendor (don't think it's one of the ones that are selling lsz/al-lad), didn't feel right, had it tested by a professional lab, turned out to be one of the nbomes.

Of course real LSB may have also been available. Never heard of MIPLA being sold on the rc marked.
 
That's why I never even bothered with LSB, it seemed fishy from the start. I bet it was just an NBOME coctail.
 
Hopefully al-lad and lsz started a new wave of lysergamide rcs and we'll see lots of them soon enough (and I want my al-lsz, just to see if it's any good at all).
 
LSB was demonstrated to be an NBOMe when it was sold last(?) year.

LSZ and AL-LAD were genuine, you can see the verification on ecstasydata.

ETH-LAD will not be produced by the same source that was responsible for LSZ/AL-LAD as it was run because the substances are legal in the UK.

In light of that, I suspect that rumours of ETH-LAD production are indeed just rumours.
 
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