Psychedelic drug equivalent to "the way alcohol" is used and alcohol?

[Help?!?!]

Nitrous was used socially as well in my group of friends, though we certainly weren't all doing it at once as that would just lead to a room full of people slouched over and drooling if enough is done. We usually would have one or two people sucking down chargers whilst the rest of us discussed the craziness of what we just experienced during our mini nitrous binges, then once the two people were done, they would lit up cigs, and pass it along to the next two. Usually a bong would be going on between the people not currently inhaling nitrous as well. Fun times.

 

[SONN]

2c-b is the ultimate recreational psychedelic if you ask me.

K is awesome for socializing until you hit a dose that is heavily dissociating, but before that I find it lowers inhibitions quite nicely.

low dose insufflated mxe can make me turn into a party animal, moreso than most stimulants.

a low dose of mushrooms makes me crack up and raise my voice in similar ways to alcohol.

unfortunately the way alcohol is used is generally idiotic, so thinking of a psychedelic analogous to alcohol is just a tad bit difficult.

 

[Grinders Kiefers]

Has anyone had experience with HOT-7 in a recreational/party setting? At 15mg, Shulgin reports feeling tipsy with "shades of alcohol woozy" as well as "smoothly stoning" but also that he did not feel like going out and meeting people. I'm wondering if anyone has experienced loss of inhibitions, feeling more pro-social, etc. from HOT-7, presumably on the lower end of dosing as it does not sound like this alcohol-type effect is prominent in higher doses.

 

[ParappaTheRapper]

A lot of these answers seem pretty stiff to me..
your like dropping acid at something like this orrrrrr....?

 

[lovepsychadelics]

I'd agree.

Maybe along with some K as well.

Fucking lol. This can end up in some dangerous territory if you apply an Etoh mindset to it. Sure has fucked me up more than once with this combo... in a bad way. Does not stop one from using them in combination again and again... especially with a few friends. If going out though MXE and 2cb just cause your not constantly hovering near the toilets to snort lines of K.

 

[lovepsychadelics]

A lot of these answers seem pretty stiff to me..
your like dropping acid at something like this orrrrrr....?

Nah drop it in the tea (better yet if it's 4 Aco Mipt) get everyone on the level.

 

[bitchamonth]

Nah, something like this:

Haven`t tried Ketamine, 2c-b, MXE, nitrous.

Some cannabis sativa. Isn`t cannabis a part of the psychedelics? Sativas make you energetic and talkative.
Nobody has mentioned weed?

 

[pmoseman]

 

[Solipsis]

Purely recreational use and abuse of psychedelics is one thing for a topic, but it doesn't need any extra rambling or childish joking. I removed a few posts, now please stick to the point or I can just close it if you give up. I'm sure there are other places on BL to go to with banter.
Thanks

 

[pmoseman]

What may be social to one person may not seem so to others. I consider the most social activity playing board games and drinking games by comparison are rather simple. Others simply like dancing in loud clubs. I would put "social" as being able to order a pizza.
If you mix DMT and water, you could drink it down, at 1.7% by volume.
Drops of this would be like shots of hard alcohol, and lethality would involve drinking a whole bottle.
The equivalent using psilocybin would be 0.35% PBV (psilocybin by volume). But the delay would be several hours, spoiling the fun.
A bottle would contain thousands of shots.

 

[Solipsis]

Obviously not since DMT is not active orally without a MAOI and with it drinking a brew or solution would just be called either ayahuasca or pharmahuasca. Also drinking a drug is quite literally how alcohol is used but that hardly makes it equivalent. The effects are IMO infinitely more relevant and important than the ROA (unless we are talking freakish ROAs).
Anyway I personally think casual psychedelic use is only okay if it is a relatively mild drug / experience, otherwise it can be unrealistic because you cannot always pick and choose profound, meaningful and potentially damaging experiences.

 

[pmoseman]

Well... it would be more like 2 drops equivalent to a shot, and you would have to have taken Syria rue beforehand, or however that works.
I was looking at onset and duration, DMT is supposedly the fastest acting hallucinogen, so it would be like alcohol, but ayahuasca.

 

[bitchamonth]

Purely recreational use and abuse of psychedelics is one thing for a topic, but it doesn't need any extra rambling or childish joking. I removed a few posts, now please stick to the point or I can just close it if you give up. I'm sure there are other places on BL to go to with banter.
Thanks

me?

 

[Solipsis]

No the removed posts weren't yours.

 

[bitchamonth]

Nutmeg. yeeeey... :D
2C-B scares me a little bit, maybe because of the media attention, hospitalized 2C-X users. bla bla bla.
Havent tried DMT, is DMT really that social. Isnt it introspective and sh**.
The spirit molecule. oohohooh...8(

 

[Thanatos]

^ DMT makes me wanna dance if I dose low and power through until the after glow with a good mindset. I don't believe in 'psychedelic spirituality' so as long as I don't literally lose my mind I'm good to go. It's got a nice energetic push and the tracers are top notch.

DiPT will always be a more social drug for me though. Psychedelic jive turkey robot voices galore with so munch euphoria and good spirit.

 

[bitchamonth]

^ DMT makes me wanna dance if I dose low and power through until the after glow with a good mindset. I don't believe in 'psychedelic spirituality' so as long as I don't literally lose my mind I'm good to go. It's got a nice energetic push and the tracers are top notch.

DiPT will always be a more social drug for me though. Psychedelic jive turkey robot voices galore with so munch euphoria and good spirit.

"tracers", like in the context of parkour and freerunning? %)
If the pitch is shifting and suddenly everyone has a deep metallic robot voice, can you even communicate. You seem to have tried it, I havent.

I don't believe in 'psychedelic spirituality'

Me neither.
But DMT is so short - ive read - quick onset and comedown.

 

[Toz]

No one mentioned PCP? It's far less disabling and more suited for social situations than ketamine.

 

[bitchamonth]

No one mentioned PCP? It's far less disabling and more suited for social situations than ketamine.

Haven`t tried it. Don`t know.

Physical

Decreased sensitivity to pain
"Rubbery" feeling in the legs
Impaired coordination
Dizziness
Nausea
Flushing
Sweating
Abnormal eye movements

Mental
Feeling disconnected from one's body and/or reality
Apathy
Disorganization of thoughts
Feeling drunk
Distortion of time and space perception
Feeling invincible

PCP is considered a "hard" drug due to the potential for significant adverse reactions in some individuals, including:
Inability to communicate
Confusion
Agitation
Paranoia
Blank stare
Long-lasting problems with speech or memory (in heavy users)
Convulsions & coma (in overdoses)
Violent behaviors and suicide

- Source: http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/pcp-side-effects

These effects are obviously biased by some fella who hates drugs, but if it`s right it seems to be bad for social situations. Nothing positive was ever mentioned.

 

[johannes kreisler]

MXE; 10-15mg per 0,5l-glass. this could be consumed like alcohol, even the effects would develop in a similar fashion - slower dynamics though. and instead of a hangover you'd have an afterglow.