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I'd try the 5/6 combo if I were you. It's different (and better) than either on it's own (for me it's trippy visuals, desire to talk to people, much more open conversations, good mood, feelings of love, only light stimulation). 5-MAPB is similar except with a shorter duration, almost 0 visuals and perhaps some more stimulation. But of course we all like different stuff and different chems affect people differently. Whatever you do, I hope you have fun!
 
Could you (Una) clarify something for me - am I understanding you correctly that you want something that would compel you to move around instead of just sitting? Something that would push you harder to talk about your feelings? If possible with even less trippiness?
 
To answer your questions.

1. My marquis has expired. The vendor I sourced the 5-mapb from is reliable. They have been in business for several years, and are very well reviewed on SOS. They also do analysis of batches before selling the product. I suppose the only assurance I can offer that this was in fact 5-mapb is based on a relationship with this vendor over several years.

2. I had taken 4-fa three weeks prior to this session. I do not make a habit of these things and haven't tripped proper since July.

3. I believe the setting had a very significant impact on the experience. It was my first time with the drug. It was not ideal in that there was to much going on--friend's watching TV, playing music, drinking. We were the only two on it. I believe this may have led me to suppress some of the feelings I might be more open to feel had the setting been more intimate. Hence my desire to retry the drug in a more "arranged" setting.

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I am satisfied with the stimulation offered by 5-mapb. I probably would not change it. Physically it is stimulating, and mentally it is more relaxing. I also did not find 5-mapb to be extremely trippy, but there are hints of trippiness, such as soft tracers and more vibrant textures and colors. I liked this.

Yes I think there could have been more push on the empathy part of the drug. Talking was nice, but not amazing.
 
Ah I see what you're missing.. I think all of the benzofurans are less pushy than MDMA/MDA, that's one of the reasons I like them, the other being the trippyness (hence the 5 6 apb combo being my favourite).

Maybe someone else could advise you on a suitable stimulant that could fix that?
 
Transform said:
Sounds about right to me. It's a lot more potent though and may be less forgiving to those overdoing it.

It's obviously more intense and serotonergic than methylone.
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I dont really compare it exactly to MDMA. I picked up a gram of this from a reliable source, with NMR analysis and all. I did roughly 200mg snorted one night, and then a week later did maybe >300mg snorted over the course of about 14 hours.

I found a lot of key differences between this and MDMA:
- Very very easy to redose and boost the effects. MDMA re-dosing for me is really subtle, and only seems to prolong the effects as opposed to boost them to any extreme. with 5-mapb. Snorting this in 40mg lines was able to continuially boost and continue my high with no problem. I found really no tolerance-esque effects.
- This is a lot more serotonergic than MDMA. After getting up to about 70 this stuff became pretty psychedelic. But a really pleasent psychedelic. MDMA has that small amount of psychedelia associated with it, adding to the roll. But this was a lot different. Instead of a strong roll, I got a feeling similar to a low dose of mushrooms, or 2c-i. I was getting CEVs, and some distorting and morphing with my OEVs, like I said, very close to a medium sized dose of mushrooms, however with a LOT less anxiety. Mushrooms, 5meo-mipt and such always give me a decent amount of anxiety. I didnt get as much with 5-mapb, however it was still there. Which leads me to the next point:
- In a club environment the "roll" might be present, but its not a strong eyes in the back of the head roll. Its much more psychedelic, not nearly as much dopamine release in my opinion.
- It hits a lot faster than MDMA when snorted. I was feeling strong effecs within 3 minutes of snorthing. Im talking PEAKING dopamine-wise within 3-4 minutes, serotonin-wise in about 10.
Very stimmy at lose doses around 50-60mg, after that becomes pretty darn psychedelic. MUCH MUCH more so than MDMA or even MDA for me.

I mean overall, it was a fun chemical. I ended up just ripping like 10 of my vinyl records to digital format, and listening to old blues all day. It was fun. There was a bit of anxiety associated, psychedelic related anxiety that is. A small amount of "roll." To be honest, it was a bit more psychedelic than MDA to me, and I much prefer MDA because of the strong roll that comes with it. This is a fun chem, and at a dose of maybe 80-100 in a club environment it could be super fun. I just found it too similar to stuff like 5-meo-mipt, lacking that solid dopamine rush that comes with MDMA or MDA. Maybe one day Ill finish my gram, but for its just gonna sit in my drawer.

Note: at a lose dose, like 50-60mg snorted, this is a LOT like a medium dose of MDA (perhaps MDMA or a mix).; definitely pretty stimmy at low doses. But once you surpass that 50-60 snorted, it becomes a baby version of mushrooms. And of course, youre gonna want to up the dose ;).

That said, something like 50mg of this (snorted of course, I never tried oral) mixed with decent amount of a normal stimulant, might provide for a VERY fun time. But again thats just speculation. If there are any questions Id be happy to answer them, I just wanted to get the main bullet points out there. This stuff was not nerely as euphoric as MDMA or MDA to me, just my two cents. It was like baby-MDMA, and medium-psych. I can see some psych-heads getting WAY into this, especially because tolerance doesnt seem to be much of an issue.
 
Tried this for the first time last night. 80 mg orally at my own birthday party at my apartment.

Interestingly, the effects in this setting were almost entirely empathogenic. I found myself flitting from guest to guest and oozing "bonding" and compliments. The highlight of the night was sitting in a bedroom with a couple other people talking and learning about them. I was really put off by loud drunk people.

I would love to try this in a club setting but I know I should wait at least two months just to be safe. I am also anxiously awaiting whatever crash may occur - I am just post-loading with 5-htp and going to make a point to keep up with exercise all week.
 
Do you prefer psychedelics over empathogens?

Would someone who dislikes psychedelics enjoy this one?

The reports regarding empathy on this one seem to vary a great deal. I am trying to figure out just where this one is on the psychedelic versus emathogen spectrum.
 
> Would someone who dislikes psychedelics enjoy this one?
I think of 5 apb, 6 apb, 5 apdb and their combos 5 mapb is the least trippy. There are some minor effects, but that's all. While the 5 and 6 apb combo is the trippiest of the ones I've tried (also the reason why it's my favorite).
 
Section813 said:
Do you prefer psychedelics over empathogens?

Would someone who dislikes psychedelics enjoy this one?

The reports regarding empathy on this one seem to vary a great deal. I am trying to figure out just where this one is on the psychedelic versus empathogen spectrum.
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I'd say much less psychedelic than empathogenic. It felt very similar to MDMA. I'm sure batch variation is a factor, and individual chemistry. I wrote a trip report with more detail if you are interested.
 
I tried 48mg of 5-MAPB with 11mg 2-FMA (for a little less couchlock/sledginess/sedation - went very well) and it was absolutely plenty. No fucking idea how people are surviving 200mg doses. I would say the potency of this is about double that of MDMA.

I added a little 2C-B later and it went very nicely, and then after 6 hours had some MXE which was a fantastic end to it.
 
Transform said:
I tried 48mg of 5-MAPB with 11mg 2-FMA (for a little less couchlock/sledginess/sedation - went very well) and it was absolutely plenty. No fucking idea how people are surviving 200mg doses. I would say the potency of this is about double that of MDMA.
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Wow so something approaching AMT territory in dosage? That's impressive indeed!

I'm going to have to procure some of this I think. It sounds like the perfect entry back into the world of empathogens in a world where methylone has pretty much replaced MDMA in "Molly"
 
Help?!?! said:
^Quit reminding people!;P I would enjoy trying this one but its a fair bit more expensive than 6-APDB so i'll probably take a back seat and see if the price drops a bit.
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Quit reminding people about what? LOL

And its not that expensive... Its actually cheaper than "Molly" by A LOT and from the sound of it, its better than whatever is now being passed off as "Molly"
 
That "molly" is even less likely to be MDMA! Twas a joke though as that'd be bad HR no matter how depressing itis. Truth there but you forgot that at least last time I checked that is, 5-MAPB was more expensive than 6-APDB. I would to see which one of the two is more sedative as a sedating MDMA esque roll is so alluring/sexy to me! I love to do things on sedatives though which most people don't and to much stimulation is just annoying and causes my mind to race which then brings the aniexty.

You should know though that I don't procure MDMA from randoms though, been going through the same channels for that for years. Like I said earlier I don't even bother with pills so I always make sure what I have is MDMA and some skecthy random powder/crystals.
 
I want whatever Transform has! I would want a higher dose next time and I had about 80. But I also think I may be less sensitive than many folks to these kinds of substances.

I found this to be less sedating than 6-APDB but a million times better. It may be my favorite. It's been five days and I feel pretty okay. Eating, sleeping, exercise are as usual.
 
tasha_yar said:
I want whatever Transform has! I would want a higher dose next time and I had about 80. But I also think I may be less sensitive than many folks to these kinds of substances.

I found this to be less sedating than 6-APDB but a million times better. It may be my favorite. It's been five days and I feel pretty okay. Eating, sleeping, exercise are as usual.
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Would you be able to quantify it at all? Like for example I find 6-APDB to be truly sedating almost like benzos or opi's but not that extreme but it clearly is sedative, so in turn would you say...that 5-MAPB's sedation is just slightly noticeable but with no real push or something along those lines?
 
Well, for me 6-APDB was a very confusing experience, with no pronounced euphoria, a rather intense body load with the come up that manifested itself as the need to go to the bathroom four or five times, and a very crushing kind of tiredness that set in at about four hours into the experience that basically had me bedridden. It was almost as if I bypassed any positive effects and went directly to that strange headspace with swirling closed eye visuals and a headache toward the end of the experience.

On the other hand, 5-MAPB had a very strong and pronounced empathy to it, a lucid headspace, and very defined euphoria. The settings were different for each experience, but if anything, the setting was better for 6-APDB. Maybe I need to experiment with different dosages.
 
Ha funny how we all experience things so differently as 6-APDB had the most pronounced empathy out of any MDXX i've tried, though granted you have to work with it more. I would have to say its not for people looking for a "simple roll esque" experience as its pretty psychedelic as well, most likely why you felt confused during it/had the visuals. Also it makes me laugh everytime I read someone says it made them have to use the bathroom, as it's never had even a slight effect in that way for me, though I use it IM so maybe that's why. I remember psdoonym saying he found it had highly pronounced euphoria/empathy if I remember correctly as well, he choose IM route as well. I would try using it rectally, as that may abate some of the side effects and produce a cleaner experience.


I think though i'll make sure to test out some 5-MAPB at some point in time though, especially after hearing these things about it!
 
I have hesitations about 5mapb due to the lack of research on it and anecdotes of bad after-effects, but then again, said hangovers seem to come with ridiculous binging. No, you can't take 5 times a reasonable dose of an entactogen in an evening and end up "okay". :P

ebola
 
ebola? said:
I have hesitations about 5mapb due to the lack of research on it and anecdotes of bad after-effects, but then again, said hangovers seem to come with ridiculous binging. No, you can't take 5 times a reasonable dose of an entactogen in an evening and end up "okay". :P

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True statement, I'm interested in trying this but it seems as though it isn't growing in popularity at an exponential rate like 5/6apb did. I'd like to hear more reports here!
 
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