Yea don't buy branded Kratom at headshops, huge waste of money and their products tend to be subpar
The names alone had me kinda worried and then the long drive then i heard the price lol. I guess doing a little home work does help . :D
Yea don't buy branded Kratom at headshops, huge waste of money and their products tend to be subpar
Just drank 13g. I have no problem with a gag reflex or anything so I didn’t even bother straining it. Just some water in a cup, microwaved it for 1:25, dumped the kratom in and drank away. I added a bit of agave as well, and lemme tell you. That was good. I went to microwave it again because there was still quite a bit of powder. at the bottom. Sadly, it blew up in the microwave, haha.So I lost most of it. But that’s ok. I’m already starting to feel the effects. My hands are warming up, they’re a bit tingly. I’m relaxed. Wow.
This is amazing. I can get used to this. I always 2-3 cups of tea at night. To relax. This is good. I love it. The flavor with agave. Yum. I’m actually… incredibly surprised. Like, beyond belief. I’m an IV heroin user. How am I gonna feel anything from THIS? I think people have too high of expectations. You’re not gonna get a nod off of this. I wouldn’t say. But it's really good nonetheless. Especially for my first time really happy with it. I just like that I'm feeling warm again, I've been so cold lately from the winter that I haven't been able to warm-up at all.
I would like to suggest that everybody at least try to eat the powder. I truly believe that you will get the best effect. Some people say that they get upset stomach, I'm not having that problem at all, and I usually do because my stomach is very sensitive. It's been about 40 minutes since I started to drink the tea, so I definitely feel like I'm at the point where it stopped to get any stronger. I know for sure if I was able to drink the rest of that, the rest that spilled out of the glass,, I'd be feeling much stronger effects right now. It’s reminiscent of kava in that it numbs your tongue little bit, but it's not bad actually, it feels quite Nice because when you use stimulants such as methamphetamine or an MDPV, you get that dry mouth and your tongue hurts; it feels raw. The algesia of this completely takes that away.
Yeah, I'm definitely going to stick with this. I am certainly a very very happy camper.
Oh also, the strain that I had is Green Malay. Man. I'm happy.
I agree that people expect to nod face and are dissapointed when they don't get what they're looking for. For me kratom is satisfying and provides a nice buzz if you have a low/medium tolerance. I used to abuse the shit of pharmaceuticals but luckily quit before things went downhill. Took a break and then found kratom and I found that with my low tolerance I enjoyed kratom just as much as something like hydro. The effects were about the same and the withdrawals are a hell of alot easier. I kratom gives none of the GI effects that opiate withdrawal can cause and all the other symptoms are very much a toned down version. 150mgs of tramadol and 90% of my kratom W/D's are gone, give me a week and a half and I'll be completely off experiencing very litt withdrawals. Tolerance also hardly goes up as well so I can be high on kratom all day and my habit price stays the same. For me the risk/reward ratio of true opioid addiction wasn't worth it but that's not the case with kratom. I will admit that I still smoke heroin once or twice a week but at that rate my tolerance to kratom is hardly effective and my withdrawals are still laughable to many with true habits.Just drank 13g. I have no problem with a gag reflex or anything so I didn’t even bother straining it. Just some water in a cup, microwaved it for 1:25, dumped the kratom in and drank away. I added a bit of agave as well, and lemme tell you. That was good. I went to microwave it again because there was still quite a bit of powder. at the bottom. Sadly, it blew up in the microwave, haha.So I lost most of it. But that’s ok. I’m already starting to feel the effects. My hands are warming up, they’re a bit tingly. I’m relaxed. Wow.
This is amazing. I can get used to this. I always 2-3 cups of tea at night. To relax. This is good. I love it. The flavor with agave. Yum. I’m actually… incredibly surprised. Like, beyond belief. I’m an IV heroin user. How am I gonna feel anything from THIS? I think people have too high of expectations. You’re not gonna get a nod off of this. I wouldn’t say. But it's really good nonetheless. Especially for my first time really happy with it. I just like that I'm feeling warm again, I've been so cold lately from the winter that I haven't been able to warm-up at all.
I would like to suggest that everybody at least try to eat the powder. I truly believe that you will get the best effect. Some people say that they get upset stomach, I'm not having that problem at all, and I usually do because my stomach is very sensitive. It's been about 40 minutes since I started to drink the tea, so I definitely feel like I'm at the point where it stopped to get any stronger. I know for sure if I was able to drink the rest of that, the rest that spilled out of the glass,, I'd be feeling much stronger effects right now. It’s reminiscent of kava in that it numbs your tongue little bit, but it's not bad actually, it feels quite Nice because when you use stimulants such as methamphetamine or an MDPV, you get that dry mouth and your tongue hurts; it feels raw. The algesia of this completely takes that away.
Yeah, I'm definitely going to stick with this. I am certainly a very very happy camper.
Oh also, the strain that I had is Green Malay. Man. I'm happy.
I agree that people expect to nod face and are dissapointed when they don't get what they're looking for. For me kratom is satisfying and provides a nice buzz if you have a low/medium tolerance. I used to abuse the shit of pharmaceuticals but luckily quit before things went downhill. Took a break and then found kratom and I found that with my low tolerance I enjoyed kratom just as much as something like hydro. The effects were about the same and the withdrawals are a hell of alot easier. I kratom gives none of the GI effects that opiate withdrawal can cause and all the other symptoms are very much a toned down version. 150mgs of tramadol and 90% of my kratom W/D's are gone, give me a week and a half and I'll be completely off. Tolerance also hardly goes up as well so I can be high on kratom all day and my habit price stays the same. For me the risk/reward ratio of true opioid addiction wasn't worth it but that's not the case with kratom. I will admit that I still smoke heroin once or twice a week but at that rate my tolerance to kratom is hardly effective and my withdrawals are still laughable to many with true habits.
Regarding ingesting plant material vs straining have you ever made proper tea on the stove and strained it? There's no denying that the buzz is cleaner that way. Nausea aside tea this way greatly reduces the eye wiggles, dizziness, and that weird fuzzy head feeling that kratom can give me after a while. It also hits with a quicker stronger rush because your body doesn't have to digest all that crap. This doesn't mean you can take as much kratom as you want and have no side effects but at reasonable doses the high is alot cleaner IME. Also kratom is extremely hydrophobic so it must be like gritty sand making it's way through your intestines.
Oh well in that case you have no tolerance. I would take up to 100mgs of oxy or .3 of heroin when I was using opiates. At that phase I'd say kratom would've been worthless but after a break kratom gets me pretty high. Add some weed and the euphoria is on the level of small/medium dose oxy.I completely agree with you. I don't understand how I'm having such Great effects but it feels good. Like right now remember when I said that I wouldn't be getting any more stone. Oh I'm pretty goddamn… yeah. This is really weird. But I'm l , I'm wondering if this is even possible I am really stoned LOL. Holy crap…
Also I want to add, I am not an addict. I know that that is first thing that everyone says, but I haven't had H in… three or four months?
It is not here yet should be here monday i think. I use to take pain meds and would take 40-60mg and that would be said for any pill form stuff. I stopped for a year maybe longer and i still take other stuff just not opiates and with most of the other things i tend to need a lot. I had 25 mg of norcos a few weeks back that led to just a very mild buzz if that. Then about a week ago i had 56 mg of norcos and i was high . So its kinda a hard call for me i tend to think 4.5g might be on the low side but once i down 8 or more grams its not like i can take it back. I rather find what works best . Its funny i see people get bent out of shape when someone try's 7mg to start. I think that with this less is more in some cases and i think like you said everyone is different and my issue kinda odd.I have an incredibly high opiate tolerance, so I just decided to, for lack of a better phrase, went balls deep. I just dumped it in the cup and downed it. If you don't have a tolerance, And isn't high, I wouldn't take as much as I took. I… my tolerance for drugs in general, It's quite high. For example, you hear about people taking what 15 mg, 10 mg, rarely as high as 20 mg of MDPV, and here I am, injecting 45 mg. I just have a monster tolerance, and/or I just metabolize it differently than you do, and most others.
What is your tolerance like? How much of an opiate do you usually take? Because I can already tell you right now that 4.5 grams would not be enough for me; I probably wouldn't be able to feel it.
It's really good stuff though, I hope you like it. Post back when you try it and let me know how you feel. I'd love to hear.
PS I forgot say you might want to heat it up and not use orange juice. I use orange juice with GHB, and that tastes excellent, it's my favorite drink, but this stuff is quite bitter tasting. You might want to heat the tea up, and add some sweetener to it. I had about… I want to say… 12 fluid ounces water? And I only used a little squeeze of agave. I know, for example, that one of the worst tasting beverages I've ever had is poppy tea. And this is very reminiscent of it, but tastes a lot better and the flavor is easier to mask.
Whatever you choose hope you like it. Enjoy. I loved it.
You know i said i will try 7 then i was like 7.5 , then i read a few more post's and then i hear oh first time you should try 2-5 and i think that is safe but i think i should be in the 6-7 range right off the bat. I know no one can say hey this amount is what your looking for etc. I just want to make sure i do not get sick .I have a tolerance ( low-medium, as in 30-40mg of oxy or 50-60mg of hydro gets me high as I want) and 7-8g of good bali is all I ever need, any more only adds side effects for me. I have stayed around 7g of red bali for the past few years of kratom use, but my tolerance hasn't risen either so that should be considered too.
I agree 100 percent not to just say oh this type did not work so i will not try another. I got a white ummm White Vein Borneo i think based on what i read it could work for me i did read the effects can not last as long as some other's. I think i will try it and if not i can try another. I am not rich by any means so a 1oz here an there to try one that might work is how i can do it. I see people with big bags full and i think that is great, they do not tell you they have that much is cause they have tried every thing and came to the one they like. I will not give up if the one i get is nothing good, it could be the company, it could be just not strong enough/to strong. last thing i agree it is a medicine, it is like ok some one has a drug issue so we will get them in to a program. We will treat them with a med that will help them but we know there going to abuse it and the Wd are bad as hell. I am not feeling the whole lets get this person help deal, it is lets watch them. I am in the system and i can tell you its not fun. I just came home from the er, i got pain meds. My dr/case worker and any one who feels they want to bust my balls will. I messed up and i know i can turn things around and i hope my state does not ban it. The spice crap i can see why they did it. Stupid punk kids thinking its like smoking weed that stuff made my hart feel like i was going to die, it lasted 12 min if i smoked a Joint of it. Any ways thanks for looking out for me..I wouldn't say kratom is way more different tham opiates, it's just far more complex given it's huge list of alkaloids as opposed to a single one. I'd say a good starting dose is 5 grams, at that level I can't see you getting sick and effects will be noticeable. I noticed that if people start at high doses the nausea and side effects can turn people off the drug completely and if the user underdoses they feel underwhelmed and write it off. The thing with kratom is that you typically have to find your sweet spot, you may get lucky first go but chances are your gonna have to do some experimentation. Whatever you do 1mtx1, make sure you explore different doses before writing if off completely. Kratom is a wonderfull plant with too many medicinal benefits to count. I've already posted this a couple pages back but read this list of alkaloids present in kratom and the medicinal benefits they bring. Kratom is truely a medicine. https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=488576