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exotic stims (pics)
haribo1 said:
pulmonary hypertension and other problems for aminorex, people take too much E and theres no reason to suspect it would be any different for aminorex as a replacement.
If aminorex is a readily transported substrate, perhaps the 3,4 MD version has some mileage, looks to require controlled and watched precursors though.
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
Hate to be a party-pooper, but they're not exotic... something that doesn't have the amphetamine skeleton in it's structure (or is modified out of all recognition).
Amfonelic acid - now that's what I call exotic!
dbailey11
Bluelighter
Heyoka said:
Yeah, I fell for that too, and started a thread about it where I got to wear the gullible dunce cap: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=304014&highlight=clortermine
Oh well, live and learn!
Reminisant B
Greenlighter
fludorex looks nasty!
fludorex looks nasty!
I know nothing about fludorex but its looks a cross between fenfluramine and ephedrine (well not quite with the methoxy) - both of which are nasty stimulants with dangerous side effects.
I could be wrong though.
dbailey11
Bluelighter
N,N-Diethylvanillamide or Vanillic acid diethylamide
Description: CNS and respiratory stimulant.
Sorry, no pic.
Edit: After doing some searching I couldn't find anything that made it seem interesting. Anything you can easily purchase in kilos is definately NO FUN.
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LuxEtVeritas
Bluelighter
dbailey11 said:
interesting...i would think extremely weak stimulant, but since you noted it perhaps it is otherwise....
dose range/effect/compares to..??
bob_arctor
Bluelighter
Ortetamine has become widely available in Scandinavia right now - would be interesting to see if someone could dig up som binding data on this? Apparently 1/10 the potency of dextroamphetamine. I remember seeing it mentioned in Rasmussen's "On Speed - The Many Lives of Amphetamine" but couldn't find it mentioned in the index....
tweex
Bluelighter
Between that and 2-FA/2-FMA, ortho substitutions are looking really interesting for functional stims. It's really a shame there isn't more data out there on long term neurotoxicity and receptor binding profiles. Seems like most of the new "stim" research is modafinil derivatives and nicotinic agonists now... which is all well and good except that the amphetamines have still not been explored fully for functional stims!
rakketakke
Bluelighter
A prodrug to amphetamine and chloral hydrate... What a golden grail.
Amfecloral is fascinating!
SONN
Bluelighter
honestly due to the intense sexual nature of DOC, 25-c, and 2c-c I don't entirely doubt the clortermine wiki
when I took 3mg DOC I remember specifically thinking If I had taken this drug 100+ years ago I would have my clothes off running through town right about now. Then on the come up of 1.5mg 25-c I suggested that everyone I was tripping with had an orgy and obviously not everyone was down 8)
on the comedown of 60mg 2c-c I kept coming onto every girl that was in the same room as me in a really forward way and I thought it would work for some reason lol.
ebola?
Bluelight Crew
The SAR for these different phenethylamine families is distinct, so I don't think that there's a good generalization to be made about "chlorine substitution", even if we restrict it to chlorine substitution in one particular ring position.
ebola
