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knock said:
So if you do keep your drugs really cold, you need to let them reach room temperature before opening the bag..
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Why ? I spose it depends on ROA. So MPG is a preservative and doesnt grow mouldy that is good to know. Do you know if bacteria can grow in MPG, I double dip a syringe, not anally obviously, but for oral dosing, i try to avoid letting the syringe make contact with anything inside my mouth. Ive had an upset stomach once after about a year of using MPG solutions, i think that was because i didnt wash the syringe out thoroughly enough. If i was earning i wouldnt dream of reusing these syringes for up to ten days, or when i feel that it needs changing. They are ridiculously cheap, 3p each on ebay King Scientific Products. Hey I'll tell them i wrote an ad for them see if i get some freebies....
 
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propylene glycol is an alcohol and alcohols are generally no good for bacterial cell walls i believe.

post edit: quick look around the net seems to suggest that its more the effect the alcohols have on the intracellular proteins of the bacteria that is important.
 
Incidently, MDB, the bit I liked was Knock's observation that cold objects slow down the air molecules around them causing H2O to condense out of the air and form dropplets of moisture on your cold and previously dry drugs.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Why ?
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You need to let them reach room temperature because a cold thing brought into humid atmosphere (and the air in our houses is a humid atmosphere) will cause the water in the air to condense on that cold thing. It does so because water vapour, when chilled, turns into water liquid! This is just the laws of nature.

Like swarm said :D
 
I want to hear an update from shambles on the mxp. I've got some but am not sure if i'm going to risk taking it, sounds like it could be a bit dodgy.
 
No, was that down to overconsumption ? Thats not a good sign considering the short amount of time the stuff has been available.

What can be done about this server too busy thing, buy another server and split the load ? We're all lamenting the shrinkage of EADD but the other sections are obviously getting too much traffick.
 
I've read a few worrying reports on it here and else where. Would be nice to hear shambles final verdict on it. TBH i probably wont risk taking it, supprised i bought it really
 
It wouldn't surprise me if people don't bother signing up or posting because the server is so fucking busy. A service needs to be available reliably for it to be pleasant.

I think the hospitalisation was probably down to overconsumption and individual biology. I've only taken about 120mg, I was fine. Shables took a lot more.
 
The guy that got hospitalised took two lots of 200mg just 2 hrs apart. 400mg oral is therefore advised against at this point.

I took 60 mg oral and had a really really good one. I actually posted on this thread where i described it as in my top ten of all drug experiences. It just stays in your system a long time so redosing has a surprisingly cumulative effect. I found that out the next day as i polished off the remainder of the 250mg bag in 3 or 4 separate oral doses. I had a great one that day too I must admit, but i did note the potential for things going wrong based on how i got progressively higher all day even with doses spaced like 4 hours apart. Don't get me wrong though, I probably had the best fucking day I've had since the mxe ban.

BH, are you into dissociatives in general?
 
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Swarm said:
The guy that got hospitalised took two lots of 200mg just 2 hrs apart. 400mg oral is therefore advised against at this point.

I took 60 mg oral and had a really really good one. I actually posted on this thread where i described it as in my top ten of all drug experiences. It just stays in your system a long time so redosing has a surprisingly cumulative effect. I found that out the next day as i polished off the remainder of the 250mg bag in 3 or 4 separate oral doses. I had a great one that day too I must admit, but i did note the potential for things going wrong based on how i got progressively higher all day even with doses spaced like 4 hours apart. Don't get me wrong though, I probably had the best fucking day I've had since the mxe ban.

BH, are you into dissociatives in general?
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I haven't really tried many tbh. I've only done ket after drinking which made me sick or after taking mdma which just spaced me out. I enjoyed ket once when i was on my own watching a bruce lee film, so no i'm not really into them. It was shambles first reports about it that made me interested then it was his follow up posts that put me off trying it.

I'm going to wait a couple of weeks to hear some more opinions on it before i'll try it, like i said earlier i'm suprised i bought it at all.
 
MXP gets a big thumbs up from me, me and Pagey tried it Thursday, around 100mg each, it was like a really really friendly mxe with added 'bounciness', much much more euphoria, clear headed and everything took on a beautiful golden hue.

No comedown at all, back to baseline smoothly with a great afterglow, sleep was easy

What a wonderful substance, will definitely repeat! =D
 
^^That's exactly compatible with how I feel about Mxp after getting through my 250mg bag. Massive thumbs up to this substance. Reminds me why its not quite so bad to be alive after all! :)
 
See now i'm tempted to try it again after the last few posts. I just didn't like the sound of it coming back in waves for days after taking it. I'm sure some one said that they woke up in the night having an out of body experience days after taking it as well ?
 
mydrugbuddy said:
I suppose that is only a problem if you wish to vape/smoke that substance ?
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No it's nothing to do with vaping/smoking. Water is a major cause of spoilage. For one thing, life needs water, so if you get water on your drugs then they are at risk of being contaminated with micro-organisms. Also, like babylon boy said somewhere, or was it transform, chemicals are generally less stable in solution, and if you add water to water-soluble drugs what you get is a solution, even if it's not completely fluid wherever the water comes into contact with the drug you will get a solution (allowing for the fact that there limits to how much of a substance can be dissolved in a solvent).

So if you're interested in preserving your drugs for more than a few days you need to keep them dry.

Now, I'm pretty sure my etizolam lasts for ages in PG solution, so I'm not sure what to make of this "unstable in solution" thing but it's obviously a fact to some extent, some extent which varies from drug to drug and solvent to solvent. I definitely would not put drugs in water for long term storage, simply because forms of life will find it a viable place to hang out.
 
Ah i see, sorry was a bit slow on the up take there. I just keep most of my goodies in one of those lockable moneyboxes with several sachets of that silica gel. Nothing has ever spoiled before it was consumed. Ive generally never had anything last longer than 6 months or so anyway. If ive made a larger order, i measure out about a weeks supply, so as to not keep opening and closing the main bag to help keep that fresher for longer. Ive never bothered refrigerating anything apart from my etiz mpg mixes. My etaqualone might spoil or get flushed, ive allready had a bag of it more or less since it hit the shelves, tried once or twice gradually increasing the dose, but its not safe to use that until i get off etiz, and even after that im not sure how safe it is. Apparently some vendors are selling it ridiculosuly cheaply now, AFAIK only mugz and mental kenny had anything good to say about it, Kenny said he got through a gram in a day, not all in one dose, but each time the high only lasted around 40 minutes and it was quite nice i think he said.

Water is a good habitat for microbes, probably not a good long term one for drugs.
 
You can add my name to the list of people that have something good to say about etaqualone. Only trouble is the effects are somewhat mild to say the least. Works wonders for etiz withdrawals though mate.
 
knock said:
but mdma is a phenethylamine isn't it and where are benzos opiates and barbs?



i know you were only trying to help ;)
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Haha, ya see!

It's phenomenally difficult to give a simple list without also explaining all the chemistry behind it. There is an exception to every rule in chemistry, and an exception to that too!
 
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