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The EADD Windows Technical Gibberings Thread

Not sure where the best place is to link this, but just saw it on The Independent site and thought it was pretty neat

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Just who is looking over your shoulder when you browse the Internet? Tomorrow, web users will be given a new tool to shine a light on the commercial organisations which track your every movement online.

Lightbeam, a download produced by Mozilla, the US free software community behind the popular Firefox browser, claims to be a “watershed” moment in the battle for web transparency.

Everyone who browses the Internet leaves a digital trail used by advertisers to discover what your interests are.

Users who activate Lightbeam will be able to see a real-time visualisation of every site they visit and every third-party that is active on those sites, including commercial organisations which might potentially be sharing your data.

Mozilla wants users who install the Lightbeam add-on to Firefox, to crowd-source their data, to produce the first “big picture” view of web tracking, revealing which third-parties are most active.


Lightbeam promises a “Wizard of Oz” moment for the web, “where users collectively provide a way to pull back the curtains to see its inner workings,” Mozilla claimed.

Mark Surman, Mozilla’s executive director, said: “It’s a stake in the ground in terms of letting people know the ways they are being tracked. At Mozilla, we believe everyone should be in control of their user data and privacy and we want people to make informed decisions about their Web experience.”

Mozilla already offers users the ability to disable “cookies” - small files that download from websites onto a computer, allowing advertisers to target users based on their online activity – an option taken up by 18 per cent of UK Firefox users.

Lightbeam will reveal the source of the third-party adverts, scripts and images stored on a web page which are linked to servers in other domains. An expanding graph visualises the interactions between the sites a user intentionally visits and the third parties which may not be welcome.

Mozilla has come under “tremendous pressure” from trade bodies over its mission to bring transparency to the web, said Alex Fowler, the company’s Privacy Officer.

The software company said it was responding to increased privacy concerns following the revelation that the US National Security Agency (NSA) had tapped directly into the servers of Internet firms including Facebook, to track online communication in a surveillance programme.

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Lightbeam reveals the source of third-party adverts

Firefox released a security upgrade after it emerged that the NSA was exploiting vulnerabilities in the browser to gain access to computers using Tor, a sophisticated anonymity tool.

But Mozilla insisted that Lightbeam itself will not compromise the privacy of users who agree to upload and share data. Lightbeam will not log IP addresses, the information will be aggregated anonymously and the software can be uninstalled, Mr Surman promised.

Lightbeam initially will only be available for desktop browsers. Apple has reportedly rejected from its store apps by developers which incorporate “cookie tracking” technology. “The whole mobile environment is closed,” Mr Surman said. “You have to go through Google and Apple for apps.”

Mozilla, which is developing its own tablet, Mr Surman disclosed, is hosting its UK Mozfest this weekend, a brain-storming “hack”, attended by 1,400 people.

Mr Surman said: “Our focus in on building a web based on openness and transparency. Our dream is a world where people know more about how the web works and take control of their lives online. We need a posse of people to get involved and make that happen.”

He accepted that some cookies can help consumers navigate sites by providing content relevant to the user but said it was important that tracking happens with a person’s knowledge.

Lightbeam is released ahead of “Stop Watching Us,” a “rally against mass surveillance” in response to the Snowden revelations, which will be held in Washington D.C. on Saturday.
 
there was a facebook one somewhere I think that monstah started ... maybe that could be made multifunctional.

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my post was probably best off in the prism thread or one of the NSA ones or summat
 
Registry? That's Windows. Windows is a platform, you posted in the platform-independent thread, that's not for questions about windows :D So I have moved it for you. Not to worry ;)

CCleaner gets good write ups though.
 
cheers knock that's the one i was thinking of but i got a virus on my last computer from downloading that but i will give it another look now :)

cheers knock that's the one i needed :)
 
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well...
is the win8 upgrade worth getting?

im on a simple pc, no touch enabled thingies. its also a bit old (3 years?) but it was cutting edge back then. yeah i know that history in computer terms but still.
 
Surely no one here is actually paying good (drug) money for software let alone OSs 8o

I try to spend as little as possible on tech, you can achieve much of what the latest deliver for next to nothing with a bit of tinkering.

My latest triumph had been loading Android onto my ageing EEEPC Netbook, I've made a decent cable and hooked it to the audio amp. I'm using a top little app call Tonido on my Win7 desktop and other Android devices.

I can now access all my digital music either on the Hi fi or via a tablet round the house and even at work via my mobile phone.

I tried to set this up with Linux and got it to work but it was clunky and I could access remotely, there just isn't the range of free stuff for Linux and all that command line shizzle requires leather elbow patches and a Dr Who box set;)
 
there just isn't the range of free stuff for Linux and all that command line shizzle requires leather elbow patches and a Dr Who box set;)

i challenge this statement!
I agree there is not the same amount of shitty malware, resource hogging adware, and other 2nd year comp sci visual basic projects!

the range is smaller because where a job needs done it tends to get done in at most three or four different ways, but those tend to be of industrial strength and quality.

command line can be tricksy but the rewards in terms of learning, control and speed when you're up to speed are worth the effort.


i'm still in bed, i'll put flesh on this later and we can bash it out till we're done. oh sorry wrong thread :D
 

=D very very good but it's not technology I don't like! it's secret code and the things that come with secret code, which are spying, security holes that don't get fixed, viruses, malware, antivirus, antimalware (see this arms race does not exist in my life), popups, adverts, lack of control.

I like control (over my computer), freedom (to do with it what I will, and from other people's ideas of what my computer should do), performance (from the computer). That's why I do what I do. That's why I'm running archbang and not WIndows 8 Nursery Edition. Nothing to do with a disliking for technology.

And if learning about the system is the price I pay, it's a good sort of price that is it's own reward.
 
I was kinda jesting, I've run Linux of one sort or another on the Netbook for ages and even run bootable USBs on the laptop with Tails etc. It's a great open source OS which leaves Windows in the dust in terms of processor overhead, I was running photoshop on my I5 at work and I swear GIMP on the Netbook was almost as fast.

However what I wanted for the music player was to make a consumer device to do the one function, I di get it all working with Linux but I was the only one who could work it due to the UI. I tried a number of different setups but nothing really hit the spot.

The Android build that someone kindly made boots as fast as Linux and the Tonido app is a really good ad free piece of software, you have to load a server pack onto the PC but it means I can access all my music via the main hi fi or on any android device ...anywhere.

It seems a little dogmatic to insist on using Linux when android did the job better, I agree it doesn't compare to windows or Linux in terms of user control but it's a tidy system for devices that only need limited functionality, like phone ,music web and the range of applications available for free can only be seen as a good thing.
 
It seems a little dogmatic to insist on using Linux when android did the job better,

Just for clarity... :D Android is Linux, or rather the Android OS has a modified Linux for a kernel. And the core Android system is open source, so in terms of control and freedom to modify I don't have any reason to favour Linux over Android.
 
Just for clarity... :D Android is Linux, or rather the Android OS has a modified Linux for a kernel. And the core Android system is open source, so in terms of control and freedom to modify I don't have any reason to favour Linux over Android.

When you have to split end and undermineyour original point its timeto throw the towel in, is windows 2000 the same as NT?

The simple fact remains that for this aplication the Android route worked better, whe you are creating a consumer device the UI a d ease of use are yop of the list, thesame thing was possible with linux but was way to complicated and convoluted.

Just look at the prolification or Anroid on phones and tablets, your average device user is not going to be able to handle command lin inputs. Im guessing you have DOS loaded on your PC.

Technology is no longer the preserve of those that work in the industry the comodatisation
Of devices has brought the functionality to the non technical majorityI have been involved in
The development of a device using linux but ut runs a bespoke device UI the user would not know or care
What os was being used.
 
When you have to split end and undermine your original point its timeto throw the towel in, is windows 2000 the same as NT?


Not sure that I did undermine my point. And Windows 2000 is Windows NT like Debian 7.0 is Debian 6.0.

The simple fact remains that for this aplication the Android route worked better, whe you are creating a consumer device the UI a d ease of use are yop of the list, thesame thing was possible with linux but was way to complicated and convoluted.

Just look at the prolification or Anroid on phones and tablets, your average device user is not going to be able to handle command lin inputs. Im guessing you have DOS loaded on your PC.

Technology is no longer the preserve of those that work in the industry the comodatisation
Of devices has brought the functionality to the non technical majorityI have been involved in
The development of a device using linux but ut runs a bespoke device UI the user would not know or care
What os was being used.

Sir, you're ranting and raving! <3
 
And Windows 2000 is Windows NT like Debian 7.0 is Debian 6.0.

You realise this statement is utter nonsense, like so many prodcust nboth hardware and software is may share common core parts but it clearly not the same thing


Sir, you're ranting and raving! <3

Probably, it's great to find someone who is willing to debate such things, I assume like yourself I've been involved in technology for nearly 25 years but I'm still fascinated by it's constantly changing landscape, there is always so much to learn and you have to keep reassessing your position on things.

To be fair I've not much experience with Linux, my work is almost always uses Windows but the business have other strands and I do have some involvement in those, we prototyped a new device (an update of an existing product) using Ubuntu but in the end research showed that virtualising the device onto a PC which would already be available in the locations turned out to be a better option.

Aside from the OS debate, I am still amazed at the stuff you can do with little cash, Tonido on my phone enables me to listen to anything from my entire digital music collection that resides on my home desktop and I can do this from work or anywhere else with a decent net connection, this kind of cross platform connectivity and simple UIs are rapidly changing our world.

The IBM PC and later Windows largely standardised consumer tech but with android, Linux variants and even IOs ( I will wash my mouth out ASAP) the MS spell has been broken and I'm interested to see how things develop as predicting such stuff is hardly ever accurate.
 
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