Student on LSD dies after being repeatedly tased

Tasered student 'temporarily chemically deranged'

A Brazilian student was in a "drug induced psychotic state" on the night he died, a recreational dose of LSD leaving him "temporarily chemically deranged" and unable to process instructions from police, a court has heard.

Psychiatrist Jonathon Phillips today presented a report to the coronial inquiry into the death of Roberto Laudisio Curti, saying the young man's descent into "paranoid delusion" and psychosis had begun soon after taking one-third of a tab of the hallucinogenic drug.

He was most likely in his "own private hell", the psychiatric expert told the Coroner's Court in Glebe.

Dr Phillips said it was clear from the evidence collected for the inquest that Mr Laudisio Curti was in a "very vulnerable state - vulnerable psychologically and vulnerable physically" and was "prone to overreact" to any situation.

His "level of fear skyrocketed" when he was approached by police, he said, and "stressors" such as the police chase, attempts to tackle him, the Taser, OC spray and physical restraint would have adversely affected him.

"Well they each individually, and certainly collectively, would have added to his fear at the time and he would have perceived each individually and collectively as further threats to his ... survival," he said.

His capacity to process instructions would have been "minimal", he said.

Dr Phillips said he did not agree with police suggestions that Mr Laudisio Curti displayed "superhuman strength" as they tried to arrest him.

"People can be extremely strong when they are fearful ... fear is the driver which in fact causes the person to be very strong and very aggressive for a brief period," he said.

Mr Laudisio Curti died in the early hours of March 18 this year after being chased and Tasered by police following reports of an armed robbery of a Sydney convenience store.

The young man had in fact taken two packets of biscuits from the shop, having earlier sought solace there believing people were trying to kill him, telling the manager he was a "messenger from God" and the world was going to end.

Dr Phillips said it was "just good medicine" to try to placate someone in such a psychotic state - not agitate them further.

Decision to fire Taser for second time

A police officer who Tasered Mr Laudisio Curti twice in 45 seconds has admitted that part of his reasoning for the second "blast" of electricity was based on a "figment of his imagination".

Senior Constable Eric Lim also told the State Coroner in evidence today that he had not seen that Mr Laudisio Curti was handcuffed when he cycled his Taser a second time.

He had previously described seeing the Brazilian kicking, thrashing and bucking police officers from his body.

He said police did not have "control" of the situation and he believed they might once again be overpowered by the Brazilian.

These factors led to his decision to deploy his Taser a second time, he said.

But Peter Hamill, SC, representing the Laudisio family, said that, based on Senior Constable Lim's Taser-cam footage played to the court, it was a "delusion" and that it simply did not happen.

"According to the footage, no," Senior Constable Lim said.

After viewing the footage again, he accepted that just before his second "cycling" of the Taser, Mr Laudisio Curti was compliant, his hands appear cuffed, one officer had a knee on his abdomen, and he had only attempted to roll over.

He was surrounded by five other officers at the time, the court heard.

"You were not justified in deploying your Taser a second time, were you?" Mr Hamill asked.

"I disagree," the officer said, adding that he believed he or other officers might have been injured in any further attempt by the Brazilian to escape.

Senior Constable Lim said he did not hear another officer fire his Taser five times in "drive stun" mode, nor had he smelled the capsicum spray used by another colleague.

The court also saw and heard recordings from a second Taser in use on the night, which Mr Hamill suggested was Mr Laudisio Curti "wailing" as he struggled against the force used.
"I didn't hear any of that," he said.

He later said he would not have used his Taser a second time if he had perceived police had control, and Mr Laudisio Curti had not moved again.

Standard Operating Procedures for the use of Tasers also permit using the weapon while a person is in handcuffs if it is "justified".
The inquest continues.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/tasered-student-temporarily-chemically-deranged-20121010-27cgc.html
 
^ reading that just seems to me like they keep get shown the evidence that they were in control of the situation and didn't need to repeatedly tase him

and they keep countering with what appears to be blatant lies
 
Those cops are assholes... cannot believe they are defending themselves in court when it appears like they weren't even in a position to tase him so much... ONE guy on lsd does not need to be tased more, when he is held down by FIVE trained police officers. what was he gonna do to hurt anyone in that position.... like honestly.
 
Taser inquest's sad, silent witness

Spare seats have been hard to come by in Glebe Coroner's Court over the past two weeks.

Top barristers, dozens of police, reporters from around the world and distraught family members have packed the courtroom for the high-profile inquest into the death of the Brazilian student Roberto Laudisio Curti.

At the back of the room, another family has quietly watched on. Kate Bosevski lost her brother, Steven, in eerily similar circumstances.

The rugby league fan was violently restrained and handcuffed after attacking police during a brawl at St George Leagues Club following their grand final win in 2010.

Police struck him five times with a baton, including once when he was motionless on the ground.

Desperate for more information ... Kate Bosevski. Photo: Domino Postiglione

Both Mr Bosevski and Mr Curti had taken drugs the nights they died. Both struggled with the police. Both were left face down in handcuffs on the ground. And both stopped breathing minutes later.

Yet, after two years and two inquests, the Bosevski family is still waiting for answers.

A coroner is yet to make any recommendations and The Sun-Herald understands no date has been fixed for the findings to be handed down.

Police officers involved told the 2011 inquest they had used capsicum spray and Tasers on Mr Bosevski's two brothers, who had been extremely aggressive.

One officer said he didn't put Mr Bosevski into the recovery position because he feared he would assault them.

Desperate for more information, Ms Bosevski took time off work last week and quietly sat in Glebe Coroner's Court, often with tears in her eyes.

"It's so distressing seeing another family go through this again," she said. "What if 16 months ago something had been enforced or recommended? Roberto might still be here."

Ms Bosevski has read thousands of pages about tactical weapons, positional asphyxia and police training. Her family has spent close to $100,000 on the top barrister Winston Terracini, SC.

Mr Bosevski's twin brother, Steve, 36, has become a shell of himself. His father was in an intensive-care unit after seeing footage of his son's final moments and his mother has been unwell, too.

Neither his parents nor his two brothers could bring themselves to talk to The Sun-Herald.

But recommendations are not what the Bosevski family wants.

"We didn't spend my parents' retirement money to go to court for some recommendations, we want justice," Ms Bosevski said.

"What affects my mother the most is that her son is six feet under while these people are still walking around looking at the sun. Whether they wear a badge or not, they took this person's life."

In an emotional address to Glebe Coroner's Court this week, Mr Curti's sister Ana Luisa Laudisio de Lucca said she feared the police would be "too arrogant and too proud" to change.

Her brother "Beto" was chased by 11 officers in the early hours of March 18 after he jumped the counter of a convenience store in an LSD-induced psychotic state and took two packets of biscuits.

He was hit by a Taser nine times and restrained using three cans of capsicum spray, handcuffs, a baton and "half a tonne" of officers.

"We know that nothing is going to bring Beto back but it would be good to think there was a purpose to what happened to him," she said.

Counsel for the NSW Police Force, Bruce Hodgkinson, SC, told the State Coroner, Mary Jerram, change was happening. Guidelines for Taser and capsicum spray use were under review after Mr Curti's death, he said.

After Ms Jerram hands down her findings on November 14, Ms Laudisio and Ms Bosevski will meet for a coffee and share in the pain of losing the brothers they loved.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/taser-inquests-sad-silent-witness-20121020-27y51.html
 
update:

Taser death cops thuggish, says coroner

THE "thuggish" killing of a harmless Brazilian student, who was tasered 14 times by police in a Sydney street, has prompted a review of Taser use in NSW after the state coroner slammed the "reckless, careless, dangerous and excessively forceful" actions of the officers who led the fatal attack.

Roberto Laudisio Curti, 21, who was wanted for stealing two packets of biscuits in the CBD, died within minutes of being tasered to the ground, sprayed with three cans of capsicum spray, and pinned by "half a tonne" of police shortly after 6am on March 18.

Delivering her findings yesterday, NSW Coroner Mary Jerram said numerous young officers exhibited an "ungoverned pack mentality, like the schoolboys in Lord of the Flies, with no idea what the problem was, or what threat or crime was supposedly to be averted".

"Individual officers do not have a licence to act recklessly, carelessly or dangerously or with excessive force," Ms Jerram said. "In the pursuit, tasering (particularly in drive-stun mode), tackling, spraying and restraining of Roberto Laudisio Curti, those responsibilities were cast aside, and the actions of a number of the officers were just that: reckless, careless, dangerous, and excessively forceful. They were an abuse of police powers, in some instances even thuggish."

NSW Police Taser guidelines are set to be overhauled and five of the 11 officers present have been referred for disciplinary and integrity investigations over their treatment of Curti, who was paranoid after taking LSD.

The officers are also facing investigation by the Police Integrity Commission over their "unreliable" evidence to the inquest. One constable, David Kim, "appeared to make no effort to give truthful evidence", while the most senior officer, Inspector Gregory Cooper's evidence "was so contradictory, self-serving and obscure that it hardly bears narrating".

cont. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ish-says-coroner/story-e6frg6nf-1226516940520

also: FLASHBACK: Australian gasoline-huffing man bursts into flames after being hit by Taser:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...soline-bursts-into-flames-after-being-Tasered
 
Police Integrity Commission recommends police charges over Brazilian student Taser attack

The NSW Police Integrity Commission (PIC) has recommended police be charged over the Taser attack which resulted in the death of Brazilian student, Roberto Curti, in March last year.
The PIC has delivered a brief of evidence to the office of the NSW Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) recommending that "consideration be given to the prosecution of a number of police officers involved in the pursuit and restraint" of Mr Curti.
Roberto Curti, 21, of Sao Paulo died after five police discharged Tasers at him 14 times, used capsicum spray, handcuffs and a baton and knelt on him after a chase through Sydney's CBD.

An inquest later heard Curti had used the illegal drug LSD the previous evening and was suffering from paranoia and "excited delirium" syndrome.
The PIC said today it would make a further statement on the Curti case once it had heard back from the DPP.


Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national-new...ck/story-fncynjr2-1226651539256#ixzz2UTMrz0ym
 
This could have been any of us. Anyway this is the reason I I don't mess around with psychedelics any more, the world outside my door is just too hostile.
 
Police to be charged over Taser death of Roberto Laudisio Curti

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Four police officers who were involved in the violent and lethal arrest of a young Brazilian student will have criminal assault charges laid against them.

Roberto Laudisio Curti, 21, died on Pitt Street in the early hours of March 18, 2012, following a chase by, and violent struggle with, 11 police officers, many of whom were acting on incorrect reports of an armed robbery.

He had earlier jumped the counter of a convenience store in an LSD-induced psychotic state and left with two packets of biscuits.

The talented football player had been out in Kings Cross celebrating a win with friends but ended up roaming the city's streets on his own in a paranoid, sweaty state.

Two police officers spotted him wandering down Pitt Street and tried to speak to him before he ran off. More officers joined the chase and eventual restraint.

Tasers were fired up to 14 times - nine of which hit Mr Curti - and he was restrained by seven officers using three cans of OC spray, two sets of handcuffs, a police baton and "half a tonne" of officers, an inquest heard last October.

State Coroner Mary Jerram stopped short of recommending criminal charges and instead referred the matter to the Police Integrity Commission when she handed down scathing findings.

The Police Integrity Commission referred an extensive brief of evidence to the Director of Public Prosecutions in May, recommending that some of the officers be charged.

On Friday, the DPP advised the PIC that there was sufficient evidence to charge four of the officers.

It is expected that Senior Constable Scott Edmondson and Constable Daniel Barling will be charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm and Senior Constable Eric Lim and Senior Constable Damien Ralph will be charged with the lesser offence of common assault.

Senior Constable Edmondson Tasered Mr Curti twice in the back as he lay on the ground resisting arrest and was one of five officers picked out by Ms Jerram for their "reckless, careless, dangerous and excessively forceful" actions.

Constable Barling was also chastised for Tasering Mr Curti five times in "drive stun" mode whereby the Taser is pressed against the skin rather than shot from afar.

Senior Constable Ralph used three partial cans of capsicum spray on Mr Curti, possibly as close as 10 centimetres from his face, while several police officers were on top of him.

Senior Constable Lim told the inquest that he tried to tackle Mr Curti twice but, considering he weighed just 55 kilograms, fired his Taser once to bring Mr Curti to the ground and another time when Mr Curti was on the ground in handcuffs.

Ms Jerram found that the police officers acted "like schoolboys in Lord of the Flies" and their "thuggish" actions contributed to the death of Mr Curti.

It is expected that the DPP will lay the charges in the next week and the four officers will appear before a court in the new year.

NSW Police said "appropriate interim management action remains in place for the officers concerned".

"As there are legal proceedings under way, it's inappropriate to comment further," a spokesman said.

The four officers recommended for charges have remained on duty since the incident but had their Tasers taken from them following the PIC referral.

They were still authorised to carry guns but had to attend and successfully complete new Taser training to be "re-accredited".

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-to...disio-curti-20131213-2zb2l.html#ixzz2nKG6juE6
 
Wait there must be some mistake.. cops are actually being charged for their unacceptable murderous behavior. I think I need more sleep as i can be reading this right. But then again they are really just getting a slap on the wrist.. I mean its not like someone was basically electrocuted or anything.
 
Yeah, but on the news last night the deceased's family said they welcome the charges but think they are being grossly downplayed, ie they are not getting charged with how serious the offence was.

It is expected that Senior Constable Scott Edmondson and Constable Daniel Barling will be charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm and Senior Constable Eric Lim and Senior Constable Damien Ralph will be charged with the lesser offence of common assault.

ie manslaughter/murder.
 
Would this happen in America? Police being charged for assault, I mean. I know in Australia we've let murdering police officers off before, and they have a very powerful union - for a union. Enough power so that when a recommendation to lay charges against an officer is recommended, they still find in favour of the police officer(s). It's sickening, but I assumed that's how it was all over the world.
 
Since 1982 police used the old "Black Guy on PCP" defense to weasel out of felony assaults. The Miami police, riding the wave of Bath Salt Terror (TM), started using the old "Black Guy on Bath Salts" defense to explain why they shot/beat/killed citizens. It looks like we've come full circle back to the original superhuman madness drug: LSD. In the coming months, look for news reports of police using the old "Black Guy on LSD" defense to beat felony assault charges.
 
splitting a tab 3 ways!!!????

WTH?

I remember into my LSD times it was 5-6 tabs. One time I got some liquid and it got all over me and in my eyes and I ate some. I was wondering if I was going to come back. I did. Never felt superhuman strength.
 
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