semen retention thread

[Mysterie]

its been a while since the last thread was around, i think its in the archives

anyway about a month ago i started coming across the concept of saving your energy by not releasing semen through orgasm

so its been 20 days since not watching porn or jacking off, and am starting to feel more alive, energetic and confident than i usually am

apparently results become very apparent at 30 days and 90 days is how long it takes to reset your brain chemistry from porn viewing and masturbation addiction

i only got off about once a day on average, maybe 3 or 4 times a week, but i had never thought that i had kept that up pretty consistently since i was 12 or so

so i wanted to see if i could challenge myself by going against what society considers a norm

(not sure if this is allowed) this is a thread from tao bums which talks about a guys experience of lasting 100 days: http://thetaobums.com/topic/22912-semen-retention-100-days-and-my-experiences/

it should also be noted that meditation is a wonderful accompaniment to this practice because it helps you to develop your spiritual power, through saving energy which would otherwise be used creating the building blocks of semen only to be lost frequently

i kind of first came across it in the tao form so i have been reading a couple books on sexual energy by mantak chia and michael winn, its fascinating stuff
i feel that sexual energy is a really powerful potential force which could be used to the good of mankind and create a revolution of self-awareness through loving sex and learning how to use energy that is retained

i think i will try reach 90 days first in hard mode (no sex either) unless i manage to get myself up to scratch on tantra and orgasming safely without releasing semen, that would be fun to master tho

so has anyone else tried this? how long did you last? what benefits did you experience?

the nofap reddit is great to join for motivation and support

also http://yourbrainonporn.com/ is a good site to learn some scientific info on what happens by watching porn daily

 

[Jabberwocky]

I have never heard of this or tried this. Would I try it? To answer that question, which I made up myself, I will answer with the 'good old adage': "yeah, but nah".

Good luck with your semen retention.

 

[What 23]

I abstained once for around a month and felt what you are referring to. Then I had a wet dream... Or a dream where I was walking around a square hall like my old dormitory floor, and I had to pee. I couldn't find a bathroom. A couple of girls were bent over... Bigger girls. I found myself inside one of them, running into them, and releasing into her. But instead of pee I came, and woke up ejaculating and saw on my alarm clock it was 1:23.

I have yet to try again. I seem to get depressed in about week 1 after not masturbating... feeling deadened. But I'd like to try again, really.

 

[pasha]

Freud claimed that libidinal energy (cathection) was the major driving force behind every human action. I can definitely see how it can be theorized that saving it up could be somewhat beneficial. Might try it myself.

 

[Foreigner]

I have a lot of experience with this, but I'm on my way out the door so will post more later.

 

[RhythmSpring]

So do I. I've gone a year without ejaculation. By the end of it I was in a spiritual euphoria pretty much every day.

 

[Mysterie]

did you have a partner to do dual cultivation (tantric/taoist sex) with ? or celibate?

i have been thinking more and more about having my intention to just do 90 days at least for myself (by myself), and then think about a sexual relationship with someone else if that person arises before then and is happy to build upon friendship

ive been loving the satisfaction recently of simply using restless sexual energy as a kind of meditative chant to watch is pass or study it and take it in to pieces, and just watching it passing, and every time i do that it gives me fresh perspective on the craving, urge and pleasure/guilt cycle that i'm trying to step out of

 

[Mysterie]

double >.<

 

[RhythmSpring]

did you have a partner to do dual cultivation (tantric/taoist sex) with ? or celibate?

No partner, unfortunately.

 

[Mysterie]

this is my 30 day update copied over from reddit, making lots of firsts, enjoying and appreciating life much more, feeling positive~

hi guys

i reached 30 days and it is really a great feeling of accomplishment seeing that green star next to my name now.

I didnt have a porn addiction or anything and I would bate 5 times a week or so, but I suffer from most of the classic symptoms (lethargy / low confidence / depression / anxiety etc)

I started on this journey after coming across a post on a taoist forum about a guy who retained semen for 100 days and how he was able to improve himself using his sexual energy and channeling it into other areas of his life. This was very interesting to me so i started binge reading everything i could learn about retaining semen and was astounded by the improvements people were claiming about their lives even just after 30 days. So i stumbled across this reddit and this is my first attempt and I am so happy I found this train of thought.

**Things I have noticed since starting nofap**


- my moods are a lot more stable, before I would start feeling depressed or anxious and it would envelop me until i would cover the feeling with weed or drugs, now I am aware that I am feeling anxious or whatever and find a positive outlet for me to use that emotion.

- I have found it much easier to break addictions and things i have formed strong habits to. Today marks 8 days without a cigarette and about 15 without weed, and I don't feel strong cravings for either, its quite remarkable.

- I have more confidence and positivity and its also true, i can keep eye contact with people longer which improves communication.

- My eating habits have improved (more self control/self awareness), I am exercising regularly (with greater ease as well than previously) and my eyes and skin are starting to glow a bit with health.

- I am a lot more successful in meditating and keeping up that routine which helps to make me semi-impervious to life's stressors

I tend to agree with a lot of posters that being able go against something we used to do every day without questioning why etc, helps us to build momentum and say "why not try do this positive habit" or "i can stop doing this destructive habit now as well"

At about day 20 i told the girl i felt i love how i feel about her (havent gone close to expressing my feelings in the 2+ years we have known eachother), and she was kind of distant about it and is moving away next year, but I am happy I was able to express my emotions without worrying about the consequences (a very intrinsic issue for me), and I now realise that we were going different ways in life anyway and that we do not really have a mystical soul mate who is our other half and will complete us. I now want to complete myself before thinking about forming a relationship with someone, because I know I would have gone nuts probably going out with myself a couple months ago.

What I plan to do now is to leave reddit until my 60 and 90 day post, I would attribute some of my success from coming here daily to read others stories for motivation or to learn from others mistakes, but I now want to experience real life every second and I feel social media / forums etc are hindering that.

I have no gf so these 30 days were hard mode and my goal is to do a year celibate, because I am intrigued about how much I can grow in different areas of my life with this philosophy of saving your seed.

Already in 30 days I have made so much more progress in overcoming my fears than i have in the past 3 years imo, and this challenge is going to change me for the better.


PCE xxx

 

[Maya]

Congrats mysterie this is fascinating! Good luck on the remaining days to come!

 

[dopemaster]

Honestly I feel better if I clean my pipes. I find myself in a lot better of a mood.

I did try not masturbating for a while when I was younger. It seemed to help with weightlifting and sports. I was ridiculously horny and always trying to get laid.

All in all I feel better if I clean my pipes every once in a while or I get agitated, anxious, and stressed out. But good luck with suppressing your nature.

 

[Ds]

man i should give this a try, funny i had %ust rub'd one out and lit a cigarette and here i am reading this thread. i'm going to fo real give this shit a shot and only use my semen appropriately.

 

[Mysterie]

Honestly I feel better if I clean my pipes. I find myself in a lot better of a mood.

I did try not masturbating for a while when I was younger. It seemed to help with weightlifting and sports. I was ridiculously horny and always trying to get laid.

All in all I feel better if I clean my pipes every once in a while or I get agitated, anxious, and stressed out. But good luck with suppressing your nature.

i dont think this is for everyone, but theres lots of things you have to do in conjunction with just not jacking of, its important to not watch porn or edge, give sexual fantasies no weight, be aware of objectifying womens bodies and try avert that attention to eye contact if you want to check a girl out, meditation helps to clear the mind, and my cravings for sex have been fairly non-existent with a few exceptions over the 30 days, i dont think choosing not to bate is suppressing my nature, i just dont identify with how sexualised our modern culture has become and i think its gone a bit to far to another extreme from catholic priests preaching how filthy sex is and that you shouldnt enjoy it.

man i should give this a try, funny i had %ust rub'd one out and lit a cigarette and here i am reading this thread. i'm going to fo real give this shit a shot and only use my semen appropriately.

give it a shot for sure, i think even after a week you start to notice your vitality returning which we seem to lose some of after puberty

 

[Mysterie]

Congrats mysterie this is fascinating! Good luck on the remaining days to come!

thanks! :D

 

[laugh]

related reading imho

 

[Mysterie]

idk laugh it seems like your the one who needs to do some more reading

its ironic that your avatar is of the yin yang but you dont seem interested in taoist concepts

 

[dopemaster]

Mysterie I rarely watch porn and masturbate, its kind of a last resort. I have sex. Does that fuck up the whole not jacking off thing?

 

[Mysterie]

its okay if its sex in moderation and in a loving relationship, casual sex is less whole than what sex can be about, which is energy exchange between partners which brings those two people closer together and strengthens the people in it as well.

because you generate prolactin or something whilst having loving sex it has less deleterious effects on the body than masturbation (lethargy afterwards / clouded mind / lack of motivation)

its kind of like having a steak every day i guess, it tastes way better once a week, im no expert on the subject im sure foreigner and rhythm spring would have better explanations

if you were hypothetically considering taking up the challenge, i would recommend doing the first month celibate, simply to see the the full benefits of retaining your essence

 

[laugh]

^ your final line, I laughed.

idk laugh it seems like your the one who needs to do some more reading

its ironic that your avatar is of the yin yang but you dont seem interested in taoist concepts

It's just a picture dude and all I did was give my opinion. It sounds like tripe. Sorry for not agreeing with you or telling you what you wanted to hear. No need to get so defensive.