Sex workers using anti-HIV drugs instead of condoms

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In Kenya 1.5 million people are living with HIV, and there are about 100,000 new infections every year. Despite this, some sex workers are having unprotected sex - and taking antiretroviral drugs afterwards to cut the infection risk. How reckless is this?

"Let me tell you the truth about why many of us don't use condoms," says Sheila who has been a prostitute in Nairobi's Korogocho slum for six years.

"We don't have money, and when you meet a client who offers to give you more money than you usually get, you have sex without protection even when you don't know his HIV status."

Sheila says she and other prostitutes can go to a clinic the next morning to get emergency antiretrovirals - drugs which suppress the virus, if taken within 72 hours of infection, and in many cases stop its progression.

"We use this medicine like condoms," she says.

The type of antiretroviral in question is known as post-exposure prophylaxis, or PEP.

It is intended to be used in emergencies. For example, it is given to victims of rape if their attacker is thought to be HIV-positive, or to medics who have been pricked by a potentially infected needle.

There are no definitive figures to show how well PEP works. It's far better, experts say, to prevent exposure the virus in the first place, by using condoms.

Some clinics will only give clients one course of PEP a year. They worry that if they hand the drugs out too freely, prostitutes will stop using condoms altogether.

This hasn't stopped 24-year-old sex worker Pamela using PEP four times in the past year.

"I had unprotected sex when I was very drunk one night and the following morning I didn't go to the same clinic where I got the first PEP tablets... I went to a different clinic where they don't have my records, and lied that I was forced into unprotected sex," she says.

She didn't finish the full course because of the side-effects. "You feel bad, like vomiting, dizziness, and generally you just feel sick," she says. "So I stopped taking them."

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24942903
 
So what really? They're being safe about it by taking the antiretrovirals just like women do when taking the morning after pills. I've worked in the sex industry and the amounts people are offered for unprotected sex is insane sometimes. I can see the appeal for people living in Kenya.
 
its kind of sad that their in that position, its kind of making the switch to the needle when your having unprotected sex with strangers

but hard to judge not knowing about their lives or education about stds
 
Why is there so much AIDS in Africa? I went to the clinic in my Canadian city of a million and they said they get about one new AIDS case a month and the person that gets it is almost always living very high risk lifestyle. Why is AIDS a disease of gays, IV drug users and prostitutes here but a fucking everybody disease in Africa?
 
a partial answer to my3rdeye:

Cultural differences are a big big one. Condom use is seen as too expensive and there is a very large belief in folk medicine in preventing STDs. Also the education is just not there so people really do not understand how easy it is to spread the virus. Also if you believe in conspiracy theories then the AIDS virus was created in a lab to try to eliminate unwanted groups of people. It could have been introduced through health clinics.

More realistically though there is a preference among men for dry, non-lubricated sex in many areas of africa, it is seen by the men as more pleasurable and therefore men really hate condoms in africa. I think the biggest thing is the education and the superstitious beliefs that folk medicine and shamanism can cure or prevent AIDS.

Another factor to the lack of education generally and about STDs is that africans often have unrealistic expectations of the effectiveness of western medicine. As this story demonstrates, these women are using a medicine that is never claimed to be 100% effective at preventing infection and should only be used in EMERGENCIES. However, these women think it is a magic bullet against AIDS and dont seem to understand that it may not work and that using it multiple times probably increases likelihood of failure.

In many western nations access to health services, education, and free condoms are all available even to the most at risk. Thus prevention made easier but still not perfect.

I know a woman who contracted HIV from her boyfriend. He was a pretty scandalous dude, had lots of sex partners and apparently worked in the sex trade in Europe for a while. So unfortunately for her and him he doesnt know who he got it from. Luckily another one of my friends who dated this scum bag dude was not infected and i guess he got it after dating her. We were all pretty shocked to hear about it, we all lived in a college town with a population of 50K. The last thing we expected to hear was one of our friends getting HIV.
 
Why is there so much AIDS in Africa? I went to the clinic in my Canadian city of a million and they said they get about one new AIDS case a month and the person that gets it is almost always living very high risk lifestyle. Why is AIDS a disease of gays, IV drug users and prostitutes here but a fucking everybody disease in Africa?

Gays have higher numbers within their demographic, but the total number of those infected are actually heterosexual, along with new infectees. Gays are also far more likely to get regular testing than their heterosexual counterparts, which means reporting will be higher for gay men than the rest of the undisclosed population.

Many African countries have cultural issues around condom use, combined with traditional notions that women should be subservient to men thus making it hard for them to say no to sex or insist on protected sex. And then there is also the issue of rape, which is high.
 
There is a preference among African men for dry, unlubricated sex?

They should meet my wife.... ba da bing!

Seriously, though, really? That sounds like a bad hand job. You can't tell me they prefer humping a dry pussy.
 
One major problem is that the sex workers don't complete the full regimine of anti-virals. Over time the meds will lose their effectiveness. Much like the rest of the world has done with antibiotics.
 
HIV originated in Africa and infected people unrecognised for decades, due to the poor state of medical science in the continent. The first person to be diagnosed wasn't one of the many, many Africans suffering with the disease, but an individual returing to North America, where the new illness was quickly noticed and characterised. Comforting as it might be to believe that there's some kind of moral justice behind the epidemic, but it's just a confluence of accident and history that has led it to be so widespread.
 
Sometimes I just dont understand some africans.. life is cheaper there it seems.
Word up how crazy you have to be to knowingly get aids.

getting tested regularly is where it's at.
+1 stopping the spread of disease is where its at.

living a life where you dont need to be tested regularly is where its at
Easier said but something to work on. lol

There is a preference among African men for dry, unlubricated sex?They should meet my wife.... ba da bing!Seriously, though, really? That sounds like a bad hand job. You can't tell me they prefer humping a dry pussy.
This thread is awesome haha seriously tho africa must be one strange place.
 
It is terrible that they are misusing the anti-HIV drugs in this way.
Education is where it's at, if you ask me.

Very hard to know about how to answer the question about how Africa is different. Especially not having been there.
However, I did have a good number of African friends when I lived in China, and we all lived together in the same dorm, so I got to know them pretty well.
Some had very relaxed standards of personal hygiene, and smelled so strongly that my nose knew they were coming before I could see them.
Others were ridiculously clean, never smelled (unlike me at that time, I suspect!), and had cleaner rooms than mine, and one guy even took 3-4 showers a day, every day.
So, it is hard to say "Africans are like this", even with my limited sample of friends.
Juno N. gave a pretty good answer to this question, in my mind: culture, education, condom availability....

There is a preference among African men for dry, unlubricated sex?

They should meet my wife.... ba da bing!

Seriously, though, really? That sounds like a bad hand job. You can't tell me they prefer humping a dry pussy.

This made me lol!
 
living a life where you dont need to be tested regularly is where its at

Exactly.

Getting tested regularly for yourself is good but as far as how people will use another person's recent "HIV neg" test to not use condoms or practice safer sex just shows ignorance since someone can be infected with HIV and will show up "neg" for at least 6 months.

There is a small percentage of the human population that when infected they show up "neg" on an HIV test even though they are infected with HIV and only a viral load test would show them as having HIV or AIDS.

Then there are the people who think that because someone's HIV+ on medications, and has an undetectable viral load this means that they can't possibly infect someone else with HIV, get another strain of HIV, or get reinfected with the strain they have.
 
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