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Opioids Morphine For The First Time

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C_Tripper

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Hi(gh) all!

So, I'm an ex-heroin addict who has been on subs for a bit over a year now, currently on 8mg.

A friend of mine has a 100mg Morphine pill, generic, doesn't gel.

She really wants to try it, as do I -- it's one drug I've never tried.

I know shooting pills is a bad idea, and it's something I've never done before, but I have micron filters, and all equipment necessary for HR, the benefit of living in Australia.

If I was to mix this up, and assume that my subs are no longer affecting me here for a second (so I'm in proper WD's), how much would I need to get high, and how much would be safe for her as someone who is opiate naive for the most part (she used to dabble here and there, but hasn't in ages now)?

I'll be micron filtering, and taking this as carefully and safely as I can, I just want to make sure that the dose I give her isn't dangerous, and what dose I'd be able to take.

I've heard conflicting reports, that Suboxone actually _lowers_ your tolerance? I used to shoot 1-1.5g a day of pretty amazing #4 back in the day (lol), but haven't done any opiates since I started on suboxone.

Thanks everyone
 
For her, I'd say 10-25 mg. The first time I used opiates I used the equivalent to 10mg of morphine and it was nice but no where near amazing. 20 mg should give her a nice experience. She can take more later. As for you, I have absolutely no idea. If the H you were using was 50% pure, and you had the same tolerance, you'd barely feel 100mg of morphine IMO.
 
I have very small experience with morphine but id say if you wait a few days until you are in withdraw and she does 20mg and you shoot the 80 yeah you will probably feel it. I dont know how it compares to oxy or dope though. You can find some conversion charts to help you out if you know how much oxy you would need or dope. But since dope isnt pure its hard to accurately convert an know for sure how much to take.
 
I'd plug it, shooting pills is a bad idea. If you must shoot it, please micron filter.
And morphine is basically a longer lasting, weaker version of heroin. The high is qualitatively the same; sedating, euphoric, and noddy albeit a little more histaminergic , but the rush is quite different. The rush is often described as "pins and needles", which is attributed to histamine response.

Just to be safe, I'd titrate your dose, starting pretty low, like 10-20mg.
 
I mentioned that I'd be using a micron filter twice ;) I'm not a fan of shooting pills either. But this is a one off, done as safely as possible

Why do you suggest titrating my dose? Because my tolerance will be low despite being on Suboxone?
 
C_Tripper said:
I mentioned that I'd be using a micron filter twice ;) I'm not a fan of shooting pills either. But this is a one off, done as safely as possible

Why do you suggest titrating my dose? Because my tolerance will be low despite being on Suboxone?
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Whoops, sorry didn't notice that you'd mentioned a micron already.

I'm unsure on the effects of suboxone and tolerance, because when i was using it, i was microdosing (.2-.5mg. IV) and my tolerance never seemed to go up or down, but a friend of mine said that it blew his tolerance through the roof, and yet another (a bluelighter friend of mine) said that it lowered his tolerance fairly significantly. I also just say titrate as a general rule of them when trying new drugs, regardless as to whether you have experience with similar drugs.

But if you have a tolerance, then you should start higher, but I still think you should titrate, even if it means banging 50mg and then just banging the rest.
 
For me it lowers tolerance so if you were completely clean the entire year an never got high or anything than try shooting a little less and then if thats not enough do the rest. You might not get the rush all the way but youll still be high.
 
Is the girl IVing it too? If so then start with 5-7.5mg and that should be enough. When I was in the hospital for pain and hadn't taken opiates in a long time they shot me up with 7.5mg and it gave me a crazy rush and had me high for a while. The next time they gave me like 4mg and it extended the high, and also gave another rush. If she's taking it orally then 20mg is a good starting dose.

As for you, the 8mg of suboxone is definitely keeping your tolerance up there. It might be lower than your max heroin habit, but it's definitely keeping it up to the point where I think you will be disappointed in the morphine, aside from the rush. Personally I don't care for the morphine high so would never go through withdrawals from stopping subs just so the morphine could work.
 
Tommyboy said:
Personally I don't care for the morphine high so would never go through withdrawals from stopping subs just so the morphine could work.
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Well, here's the thing. I have zero percent body fat (actually, it's like 0.2% but whatever), and a stupid fast metabolism.

I am in actual WD's just before my next dose of the day. It doesn't last very long for me, even in high doses (had the same problem at 14mg, but it was easier at 28mg).

So I'm really not going out of my way to try it, heh.
 
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