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Hmm, interesting. Makes sense to me! I guess I was distressed because if I had ever said any of those particular impersonations aloud they would have been considered politically incorrect by most and been offensive to some, but I'm glad I can consider that whole ordeal (and the other instances that surely happen rather regularly in my mind) an uncontrollable subconscious process that I ultimately have at least some executive control over.
 
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psood0nym said:
Thanks for linking to that. It was a good read. I've tried to "justify" my, that is, "our," color perception to myself before, you know, put it in order, and I started again while reading that. It's a funny process. I wanted there to be a simple mathematical description that apportions regular nanometer ranges within the spectrum to each "distinct subjective color category" in the ROYGBIV schema, or to kinda do what Newton tried and match them up to octaves in the aural chromatic scale ... something. But just look at the uneven crap -- it doesn't map up:
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the spacing of the X-axis on that photo isn't linear. the space between 10,000 and 7,000 is the same width as the space between 4,000 and 5,000

the aural chromatic scale does actually almost line up with the visual chromatic scale in that the visual spectrum covers about an "octave" (two different uses of the word "chromatic" =p). look at that photo -- the smallest visible wavelength, purple, is about 4,000.... and one "octave" higher, double the wavelength, is red at around 8,000.

its not exact, but close enough to be interesting imo.



i was playing around with this idea about a year ago, here's an image i made in september 2012:

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i found a website that converted wavelengths into hexidecimal color codes, and then i correlated that to scale steps. i wish i had included the wavelength/frequency numbers on the image... alas. i do remember that i spent a few hours going over the math for it, though.
 
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that is fucken cool

tnw not to state the obvious, but you're a smartfucker

you should try to go back to school or something like that, if you can
 
i fucked up too much with school. now i have $20,000 in student loan debt and no degree, and am struggling to find a minimum wage job. sadly, idk if i will be able to ever go back to school. no one will loan the money to me anymore with my track record.
 
man, that sucks

i fucked up school too my first year, almost got kicked out. i think its pretty common. i don't think most people are ready for college at 18, i know i wasn't
 
i even took a year off after high school, lol...

ended up on academic suspension at two different schools...

the second time i actually thought i was doing the responsible thing.... i was trying to work 40 hours a week, go to school 14 hours a week, and keep an engagement going with a girl i thought was the love of my life.... i couldn't juggle all three though, and decided i had to drop something.... i figured school was the most sensible thing to drop out of, since i was going to be moving a few hundred miles away after that semester anyway... unfortunately, i didn't realize that dropping out that semester would make me ineligible for financial aid in the future...

the less educational part of the story is: then i got fired from the job, and the girl left me.

the moral of the story is, though: stay in school and don't fuck it up. it actually is one of those golden opportunities that is very difficult to get back if you lose it.
 
thenightwatch said:
the spacing of the X-axis on that photo isn't linear. the space between 10,000 and 7,000 is the same width as the space between 4,000 and 5,000

the aural chromatic scale does actually almost line up with the visual chromatic scale in that the visual spectrum covers about an "octave" (two different uses of the word "chromatic" =p). look at that photo -- the smallest visible wavelength, purple, is about 4,000.... and one "octave" higher, double the wavelength, is red at around 8,000.

its not exact, but close enough to be interesting imo.



i was playing around with this idea about a year ago, here's an image i made in september 2012:

2e1gevb.jpg


i found a website that converted wavelengths into hexidecimal color codes, and then i correlated that to scale steps. i wish i had included the wavelength/frequency numbers on the image... alas. i do remember that i spent a few hours going over the math for it, though.
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There's definitely a strong analogy between color and pitch. I know most people who have perfect pitch describe tones as colors, with some referring to perfect pitch as "color hearing," though not in a strictly synaesthic sense. I've also heard the distinction between, say F and F#, made by saying that F# is "brighter," and the lower scales referred to as dark or muddy. I'm sympathetic to these analogies as well, however, when we try to order the ROYGBIV rainbow schema/nanometer length order from subjectively lightest to darkest red and yellow change positions, yielding "YORGBIV," while all the others stay in order. I think if given a multiple choice option, most people would also overwhelmingly pick red to represent the tone of standard "A," or 44O hz, as evidenced by this youtube video that uses a red field behind "440 Hz" as a static image.
 
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^ the Red/A thing makes sense, since they are both the "lowest" on their respective spectrums/scales.... i feel like the association is due a posteriori rather than a priori. who knows, though.

i think lightest->darkest doesn't work for the same reason that infra red is darker than the bright white light of the sun
 
construct said:
Here's a paragraph from a 2CT7 trip report I wrote about a year and a half ago. After rereading this exert, I'm not exactly sure what point I was trying to make and I would articulate it differently if I were to rewrite it. Regardless, my internal monologue was almost completely out of my control (more so than usual, I guess) and was embodied by strings of voices (both actually remembered and fabricated) of black personalities (mostly the Tracy Jordan character from 30 Rock) and a kind of gay/effeminate personality (though I identify as a straight male).
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I had a T7 trip recently, first heavy dose one in a long time. Stuff BLEW me away hard, never ego loss but a form of dissociated identity....I remember it all clearly but at the time I became dissociated from my memories and periods of my life...so I was left thinking about how I got here based on limited information, a whole decade was gone at one point in the evening.


Oh, and on the previous post....the internal monologue (great call on those words) was utterly insane. I don't think I've ever been there before. So terrible and beautiful that place was. So...... intense it was! I attempted to write in my journal I started keeping recently (thank you gurl <3) and it was not easy to do but I am glad I tried. At the height I was in psychedelic soup and required assistance to walk outside and puff puff.

Same T7 the store always has had, carefully weighed by the good man himself I guess it was just my time....it wasn't even close to the top end of the T7 dosages I've taken in the past...kept it under 50mg.

Mmmm mmmm mmmm T7.
 
I wish I could get my hands on the 2c-t's

even though unscheduled non of my sources stock anything other than 2c-d,e or i. I guess supply and demand heh. other sources that have been taken down were my main source but i never bit the bullet before the raids, and I don't trust the newer ones just yet.

Oh well, plenty of life ahead of me to experiment :D
 
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That's awesome. I definitely feel like 2CT7 is a special one. Later on in that trip, I IM'd 100mg of ketamine, which would be one of my top three hardest trips, both quantitatively and qualitatively. Everything seemed to be in reverse and thus I was having this sensation that I was anticipating events in the immediate future (or was I anticipating things in the future and thus everything felt like it was in reverse?), I had colorful visions such as a representation of my family as a set of organs and a giant multidimensional, multi-faced street art organism that was continuously growing, and at one point I raised my hands to the sky (kind of like this Godspeed You Black Emperor album cover) and had this sensation a la the Sanskrit sentence Tat Tvam Asi where I was like, for a second, "FUCK BRO, I AM THE UNIVERSE!!!". Quite a bit of synesthesia, too. Pretty fun stuff!
 
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construct said:
That's awesome. I definitely feel like 2CT7 is a special one. Later on in that trip, I IM'd 100mg of ketamine, which would be one of my top three hardest trips, both quantitatively and qualitatively. Everything seemed to be in reverse and thus I was having this sensation that I was anticipating events in the immediate future (or was I anticipating things in the future and thus everything felt like it was in reverse?), I had colorful visions such as a representation of my family as a set of organs and a giant multidimensional, multi-faced street art organism that was continuously growing, and at one point I raised my hands to the sky (kind of like this Godspeed You Black Emperor album cover) and had this sensation a la the Sanskrit sentence Tat Tvam Asi where I was like, for a second, "FUCK BRO, I AM THE UNIVERSE!!!". Quite a bit of synesthesia, too. Pretty fun stuff!
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I swear I know these sensations very well. In addition, I found myself becoming what I thought of (literally) the minds eye was existence.

At the peak every experience, conversation, and/or sensory sensation going on had two or three inner monologue voices playing the role of disturbing insanity, ridiculousness insanity, and mockery of human condition insanity. Looking back, I think its good i had years of training before hand because I am not sure this was at all recreational....of course 'mind is fucked' is a lot of fun and always a learning time to me but we all know I'm a unique one.

Man a lifetime supply is never enough of this particular material.
 
2CT7 is so intensely psychedelic it can become truly frightening. i have a salient memory of spewing rainbow colored vomit everywhere and spending the rest of the night near-catatonic on my bed, not even being able to see because my field of vision was nothing but pulsating psychedelia. i don't remember what dosage i took, but it wasn't that high
 
Roger&Me said:
2CT7 is so intensely psychedelic it can become truly frightening. i have a salient memory of spewing rainbow colored vomit everywhere and spending the rest of the night near-catatonic on my bed, not even being able to see because my field of vision was nothing but pulsating psychedelia. i don't remember what dosage i took, but it wasn't that high
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Ditto for me this past time. Total psychedelic soup/sensory washout. I can't say any other psychedelic has that extreme of an effect on the visual save maybe DMT.
 
interesting. i found it (significantly) heavier on the body than 2C-E even.

although i will say that i have always been sensitive to the stimulating effects of phenethylamines, and as a result i use them only very rarely. my body seems to much prefer tryptamines.
 
I recently had two absolutely beautiful 4-aco-DMT trips, both under 15mg.

I spent the latter trip listening to classical music, and halfway through I listened to some Eastern Music with more notes than the twelve tone scale we know today. As it hit the quarter tones of the scale that I'd never really heard before it literally felt like my brain was shocked! it was as if now my association complex could relate more things I've heard/felt/seen in my life to this new data.

after the trip I felt as if I could see more colors than I ever could before which made my vision sharper!

I'll be back later to finish this post because there is a lot that I don't have time atm
 
^ That's cool that affected you in such a profound way. I play the Japanese bamboo flute and while it's tuned to the equivalent of the western D minor scale, one of the traditional scales used in many compositions has some unusual microtones not found in western music, such as E flat flat. It can create some pretty perception-bending music, particularly if one's frame of reference is based on the western scales. It can also create some breathy multiple harmonics that sound pretty unique.

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it also has a hypertensive/hyperthermic/impending-monoaminergic-crisis feel to it. its definitely not beginner material.
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I did ~26mg and while I didn't have any heart or body temperature irregularities, I was pretty nauseas, and I occasionally had some mild seizure-like "brain zaps" that were highly reminiscent of those I've had coming off of SSRIs, so maybe there's some correlation there to monoaminergic mishaps, particularly in the higher dose range? However, I've felt those zaps on DMT too, so maybe there's nothing significant going on.
 
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