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My friends 15 and does 25-I NBOME at least 7 times a week

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thesixpixelkid

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Firstly hes not using the drug as some sort of emotional filler, its just enjoyable like weed is at this point and in no way does depend on it.

He takes the drug every morning because, well idk he's a dumb kid, as per usual hed probably take 1 more tab later on in the day but maybe not. I hear that doing this drug has long term negative effects but he can't seem to find any, he's been taking the drug like this since summer.


Anyway friend wants to know what the long term effects are and whatd he be facing with continual use like this. Also feel free to ask questions, friend already notices he's not as quick to realize things mentally anymore but he could just be sketching.


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Also he's a drug addict who does many other drugs including meth, and is prescribed ritalin

Friend doesn't give a shit about his health but I sorta do so I made this post help a kid out
 
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Oh my lord..

No one can say for sure what the long term effects are because frankly no one has really studied the long term effects, but I'd certainly say psychosis and HPPD are prime candidates..

Personally after doing 25i at a low dose one week of 400ug and then 800ug a week later, which some would consider "low" I noticed visual disturbances like blobs floating, things in my periphery and when I would close my eyes or turn the lights off for bed I noticed a flashing strobe light effect for several, yes several weeks. I also noticed when I closed my eyes that visual artifacts similar to those experienced when tripping like flashy colours in intricate patterns also persisted for a week or two.

At the time I also tried 2c-i the week after, so at first I attributed the lasting effects to be a combination of all of those.

However, months later I did 2c-i two days in a row and then the following weekend again (albeit somewhat reckless if you want to be super stringent about harm reduction, but in the context of this thread I am a saint by comparison) and I noticed absolutely nothing within the day or two following and was essentially back to 'normal.' This led me to believe that what I experienced was solely due to my 25i usage, and is one of the reasons I still have quite a large amount and don't foresee going through it any time soon, and by that I mean within like, the next 5 years.

There are a number of other users here who have experienced what they call HPPD and an overall loss in the effectiveness of all psychedelics as of the result of their own flamboyant 25x usage, though even those users don't hold a candle to your friend..

In short, your friend is most definitely fucking himself up for lack of better phrasing, and not in the good way. No, not at all. I can't base this on any sort of scientific study, mainly because there haven't been any.

If you want to help him out.. get him to stop, tell his parents even, anonymously if you must, do something, this kid sounds like he needs serious help.

For the record, here there is a general consensus of waiting two, yes two, weeks between 25x usage mainly due to the fact that tolerance builds rapidly and lasts for much longer than that of other non n-benzyl phenethylamines.
 
He needs help. Immediately.

25i is no joke. It's not like LSD, where it's mostly safe in moderation. This stuff has very bad side effects. I can't believe somebody would honestly want to use this every day. Not to mention he is only 15! Where the hell is he getting it, and who would give a 15 year old such things?! I hope he isn't getting it online himself cause he could be setting himself up badly if he is.
 
How's he getting the money to pay for tripping 7 days a week? He can't be doing too bad if he can afford that.
 
Ismene said:
How's he getting the money to pay for tripping 7 days a week? He can't be doing too bad if he can afford that.
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Kid is 15, 25i is dirt cheap.. I mean dirt cheap. Nbomes are absolutely and ridiculously and even dangerously cheap.

Probably steals money from his parents or just gets it from an allowance..

Simply being able to afford it isn't really an indicator of how well he is doing, and Im kinda shocked a little at your statement from my time knowing you around here. He could be loaded for all you know and money isnt any sort of factor.
 
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The situation is he recently got out of a 3 year rehab program and I didn't know but said friend is 16 nearly 17, his parents have no care for his health and neither does he, despite hearing this it doesn't seem like he's gonna stop. The kid really lovable and we call him Baser Matt; the neighborhood drug addict, I really don't doubt he's a victim of psychosis because he has tendencies to do things such as cut himself, not in the annoying for attention way, he doesnt even tell people when he does it. But in my honest opinion it may be to late for a chance in life for the kid, he has a sixth grade education and is addicted to meth and from what I can tell extrememly suicidal.


I was taking it roughly 3 times a week and believe it or not in my area, that's pretty god damn low, you hear kids brag about taking 3 a day, and in matts case TAKING 6 AT ONCE.


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Money income is isually that he sells things he's owned or just recieved. Most recent sell a N64 with Conker got him quite a few hits and some meth, he's known to steal as well but really from family only and his family's white trash shit which doesn't justify any but this kids so deep and they're so.. idk.

My first time meeting matt he informed me he enjoyed when his girlfriend urinated on him and proceeded to eat a mushroom off his front lawn, only to puke a few hours later.
 
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Christ..

I dont even know what to say.. he pretty much needs to get back into rehab though. Its never too late, but he's certainly ruining any chances he has of ever being a functioning person.. god damn man, I really feel for this kid.. and if guys in your area are taking this shit 3 times a week minimum.. bad news bears.

I honestly cannot even fathom what you are saying.

In a nutshell you and your friends and especially your friend matt are essentially acting as guinea pigs right now.. this is the first time I've heard of people taking these compounds in such a way.. many people here are too scared to even attempt to take a hit because of news of deaths, and yes, there have been deaths related to taking a hit or two (though some are very subjective). Point is people have died and ended up in the hospital.. honestly NO ONE has any clue what long term effects or potential outcomes may be. At best you can hope for the standard myriad of psychedelic induced disorders or problems you hear about.. at worst? who the fuck knows.. no one knows, you're in totally uncharted territory

I wish this site had better emoticons because seriously, your post makes me want to tear the hair out of my head and I'm not even one of the more super stringent members on this website. christ all fucking mighty dude..

im pretty certain there are members of this board who if given the chance would put a bullet in your dealers head. at least hes not lying about it being acid, but still.. everything about what you are saying is so fucking reckless its just mind blowing.

I mean this thread right here is a testament to why substances end up banned, no matter how much we here attempt to push harm reduction or safe use. Some people just don't give ANY fucks.
 
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For the cats trying to "Help" me with my addiction to MXE over in the B&D thread, people like this OP's Friend are why I'm doing what I'm doing. I'm going to write a book on how to use Psychedelics Responsibly and how using them to an Extreme can and WILL effect you Mentally. All I want is to help people like this kid have their fun, but in a safe way. Focus your energy on the younger crowd - I'm almost 30 and have no intention of changing what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing, the risks and rewards, and I've made my choice. Let's all have fun TOGETHER and LOOK OUT for our Younger Less Experienced Counterparts. This Little Guy needs help NOW. Get him to a Rehab Program or SOMETHING PLEASE. He will die or be permanently fucked by age 18 possibly if you don't intervene now. And while the NBOME's are absolutely a problem, the fact he's addicted to METH worries me even more. It's causing him to be WAY to impulsive and not think about what he's doing at all. Crazy.
Thank you for being a good friend and looking out for the Homie. Take care of him man, or you WILL lose him, even if he doesn't pass away, people can still walk the earth and be Dead at the same time. Take care friend, be careful. Much Love - Mr. Meowfish
 
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Christ..

I dont even know what to say.. he pretty much needs to get back into rehab though. Its never too late, but he's certainly ruining any chances he has of ever being a functioning person.. god damn man, I really feel for this kid.. and if guys in your area are taking this shit 3 times a week minimum.. bad news bears.

I honestly cannot even fathom what you are saying.

In a nutshell you and your friends and especially your friend matt are essentially acting as guinea pigs right now.. this is the first time I've heard of people taking these compounds in such a way.. many people here are too scared to even attempt to take a hit because of news of deaths, and yes, there have been deaths related to taking a hit or two (though some are very subjective). Point is people have died and ended up in the hospital.. honestly NO ONE has any clue what long term effects or potential outcomes may be. At best you can hope for the standard myriad of psychedelic induced disorders or problems you hear about.. at worst? who the fuck knows.. no one knows, you're in totally uncharted territory

I wish this site had better emoticons because seriously, your post makes me want to tear the hair out of my head and I'm not even one of the more super stringent members on this website. christ all fucking mighty dude..

im pretty certain there are members of this board who if given the chance would put a bullet in your dealers head. at least hes not lying about it being acid, but still.. everything about what you are saying is so fucking reckless its just mind blowing.
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Not to add on to this frustation, half the kids in the neighborhood get it mailed now so dealers of it are kinda non existent, also this means matts getting a lot for free and when he does get them a local dealer usually has him do errands for him instead of payment.
Rehab isn't an option for him he doesn't consider it treatment he considers it punishment.
 
thesixpixelkid said:
Not to add on to this frustation, half the kids in the neighborhood get it mailed now so dealers of it are kinda non existent, also this means matts getting a lot for free and when he does get them a local dealer usually has him do errands for him instead of payment.
Rehab isn't an option for him he doesn't consider it treatment he considers it punishment.
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Well then I hate to say it but your friend matt is going to likely end up killing himself or end up locked up or in a looney bin, whichever one happens to come first.

@Meowfish:

I truly can empathize with what you wish to do, however you have to realize, kids like this guys friend matt, maybe even himself and those around him aren't going to read some damn book on how to use drugs safely. There is already a plethora of information about safe psychedelic use which is pushed all around bluelight and still stuff like this happens. At least thesixpixelkid is here and attempting to learn and at least it appears his friend matt does have some concerns about what he may be doing to himself..

I won't stop you, I'm just saying, don't be surprised if its not a best seller.
 
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Well then I hate to say it but your friend matt is going to likely end up killing himself or end up locked up or in a looney bin, whichever one happens to come first.

@Meowfish:

I truly can empathize with what you wish to do, however you have to realize, kids like this guys friend matt, maybe even himself and those around him aren't going to read some damn book on how to use drugs safely. There is already a plethora of information about safe psychedelic use which is pushed all around bluelight and still stuff like this happens. At least thesixpixelkid is here and attempting to learn and at least it appears his friend matt does have some concerns about what he may be doing to himself..

I won't stop you, I'm just saying, don't be surprised if its not a best seller.
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Little OT now but my plans are to learn as much as I can and inform the kids in the area! Also a book as such people my age wouldn't be caught dead with, its kinda evidence, we have parents to worry about. I've been wierdly coming back to these forums ever since I tried my first real drug and its been nothing but educational if you can write something and still hold onto the anonymity that blue light has then I'd read it for sure! As a suggestion however maybe a website? I know that's not gonna have nearly as much income but if its truly for educational purposes and being safe then why not?
 
If he considers rehab punishment, what does he consider death?

Unfortunately there are only 3 options for him, Rehab, death, complete psychosis. I would say this would happen in the next couple months. PLEASE do whatever you have to do to get him clean!
 
I think my best bet for help to not only him and others is to inform the kids getting it mailed ill also ask they stop giving it to matt, his brain needs a rest for sure, but other than that I don't have much control over the situation and as for Matt hell still continue with harder drugs, and I remember the day he told me acid helped him go without other drugs but now it seems its doing worse for him.
 
Well, I don't give a shit about money, $$ is just a vehicle to get you where you want to be in life. It matters, but it doesn't at the same time, You have to know how to make it, but you also have to know how to put it in its place. Shit's wild. I just want to help kids learn how to use psychedelics to develop the Potential that you have already inside of your brain, so that you can become the best person that you can be. Everyone should be striving to be the most useful, productive member of our society that they can be. Even if all you do is sit around and draw all day, make something beautiful for everyone to look at. That's what life is, it's inspiration, it's inspiring others to progress and become what we all truly are. Everyone has something. It's just finding it, and amplifying it. I'm just trying to spread this feeling of Inner Peace that MXE/Arylcyclohexylamines has taught me to appreciate. I don't know how to start websites and all that, but if people think this would be valuable, and have a purpose - then let's make it happen. There has to be a way to help society see that Drug Addicts and Drug Addiction DOES NOT make you a bad person. Perceptions NEED to change. SOON. And I want to be a part of that Catalyst for change. Bluelight is integral in making shit happen. I love it. Let's make the world our Playground and have a Safety Check List at the Front Gate for people. This is how you enjoy your Body and Being a Human - this is how you keep yourself save on your Journey's.......etc. I feel like it's precisely what Society needs. Thank You for sharing your opinion Youngster. You taught me how to figure out what "the Kid's" these days are thinking. I appreciate that connection. I want to learn everything that I can. Let's make this shit happen people. Our Society Worldwide NEEDS something of this nature. Let's all create it TOGETHER and show them how it's done in the FUTURE!!.
 
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I think my best bet for help to not only him and others is to inform the kids getting it mailed ill also ask they stop giving it to matt,
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By making it harder for him to get drugs you're just making it harder for him to get drugs.
You are not changing his relationship with / desire to do drugs.
If he's an addict he will find a way to score.
Telling the kids that are giving him freebies is doing them a favor as its a little less likely that they'll have the cops at their door for giving someone their fatal dose but your friend is gunna do what he wants and won't change his ways until he wants to.

ps - you are not responsible for his actions or the consequences.
As he's 15 you should seriously consider telling his parents. I wouldnt normally condone snitching but the nbomes are just so damn risky
 
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His parents are well aware, I've been to his house hundreds of times and his parents are usually massively inebriated. He even jokes about drugs with his parents. Thinking about the situation there may be no help for baser matt, he knows that too and that hes creating that for himself.
 
^ Well as I said before ; Its nice that you care. Its nice that you've tried to help. But if he dies or fucks up don't feel too bad, he's not your kid.
I'm struggling to find the right words here... hope you can see the point I'm trying to make. Don't mean to sound cold, just don't think you should beat yourself up over this. Shit like this just happens sometimes

take care
 
This kids story is what the anti-drug people will use as an example for why drugs should remain illegal. He is headed for a psychotic break. Someone needs to get him help. This will not end well.
 
If your friend continues to take NBOMe's that much he will absolutely develop a tolerance for them and will have to move up to higher doses for the same effects. However, if he continues to increase his dose over time like that he will be putting his life at risk, there are quite a few documented deaths from NBOMe overdoses.

In fact, if your whole community of teenagers are taking NBOMes multiple times per week they're ALL at risk of this, so you'd better start educating people before someone gets in real trouble, or dies.

It's commendable that you're doing your research and asking around for advice, even moreso since you're doing it out of concern for your friend. Best of luck.
 
Frequent use of NBOMEs will give you a massive tolerance to the psychedelic effects, it will have mostly stimulating effects,
And yes it is addictive!
 
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