25c-NBOMe Overdose Explanation

[Quiglesigles]

I have tried 25i-NBOMe on many occasions up to 2.2mg with no problems at all. Two days ago I tried 2mg of 25c-NBOMe and experienced severe vasoconstriction, coughing, difficulty breathing, and some other worrying symptoms. I had to abort the trip with 90mg of mirtazapine (remeron).

I am wondering if the alcohol I consumed (5-6 drinks) or the hookah I smoked the night before could have caused these symptoms? I am hoping it was caused by these instead of the switch to 25c.

 

[Yeetbeat]

Haven't dosed that high on 25c (though let's be honest, I've dosed 2 tabs of speculative strength, probably 600ug each), however I've experienced significant vasoconstriction with it also - especially when comparing to previous 25i trips in which I didn't really notice ANY vasoconstriction at all.

Without doing any actual research for myself, I'd personally conclude 25c causes more vasoconstriction than 25i for the same dosage. This is entirely based on my own anecdotal experience rather than fact.

 

[Mysterie]

umm 2.2mg is a very high dose of 25c

800mcg is considered a strong dose and over 1mg (for most ppl) is not worth it as most tend to agree it just increases intensity of side effects

also i'm sure getting drunk would not help with having a clean trip either

 

[Quiglesigles]

So is 25c more potent than 25i? I know 2mg is a very high dose but I can easily handle that much 25i.

 

[Yeetbeat]

Don't take what I said to mean 25c is more potent than 25i - I was only saying that in my experience the vasoconstriction side effect was more severe.

I should also add that I didn't experience any worthy psychedelic effects from either time I've given 25c a shot. The closest I got to the DESIRED effects were slight visuals (enhanced colours, very minor dancing/waving textures) and the inability to shut my brain up (just buzzing, no abstract thoughts). This leads me to believe the tabs of 25c I had on hand had lost their potency and/or fucked out and were no longer the correct chemical structure....or something. I dunno.

 

[sekio]

25c is more potent per milligram and hits faster than 25i, IIRC. You should always titrate upwards with a new compound, don't assume you can start at a high dose level and everything will be fine.

Lots of people get seriously messed up taking 2mg+ of the 25x compounds and they get seriously bad trips. Be careful.

This leads me to believe the tabs of 25c I had on hand had lost their potency and/or fucked out and were no longer the correct chemical structure....or something. I dunno.

Lots of people don't get anything but "threshold" effects where they only get some visuals and nothing else. These compounds are just not immersive, intensive psychedelics, they are much more ... selective.

 

[Quiglesigles]

Do you guys think that I was actually in any real trouble with my 2mg? Or was I just freaking out as I truly thought I was going to die during this trip until the remeron kicked in.

 

[Yeetbeat]

25c is more potent per milligram and hits faster than 25i, IIRC. You should always titrate upwards with a new compound, don't assume you can start at a high dose level and everything will be fine.

Lots of people get seriously messed up taking 2mg+ of the 25x compounds and they get seriously bad trips. Be careful.



Lots of people don't get anything but "threshold" effects where they only get some visuals and nothing else. These compounds are just not immersive, intensive psychedelics, they are much more ... selective.

Thanks for the info! my experience with 25i was overwhelmingly fucking awesome haha, though with 25c it was pathetic....and I've dosed the same amount with each, though the 25i was when we pretty much first got hold of the tabs (Last November), which means the 25c I took the other week was likely over a year old...who knows what state the chemical was in, even though we'd stored the tabs in a ziplock baggy, inside an very dark translucent blue airtight container, in the fridge. lol.

Do you guys think that I was actually in any real trouble with my 2mg? Or was I just freaking out as I truly thought I was going to die during this trip until the remeron kicked in.

Just freaking out I'd say....I mean you're alive and posting coherent legible shit on here, aren't ya?

Doesn't mean you should do it again though haha

 

[zn13bt]

Do you guys think that I was actually in any real trouble with my 2mg? Or was I just freaking out as I truly thought I was going to die during this trip until the remeron kicked in.

It's a pretty high dose, especially for 25C which is the most potent one out of the series. It also depends on how you took it, if you snorted it then it would hit you a lot harder and give you more body load than if you took it sublingually. I would be more careful next time.

You'll probably feel better if you load up on foods high in magnesium and potassium (spinach, egg yolks, nuts, etc.) before and after dosing if you do it again. Should help with the muscle tension/twitchies.

 

[Quiglesigles]

I didn't have any worrisome muscle tension. What really got me was the feeling that I couldn't breath and my chest tightening up.

 

[Yeetbeat]

Yep that's what put me off the most too. I'd say it was almost bad enough in my experience to ruin any desired positive effects I *should* have also been experiencing lol

 

[slo mo]

I have tried 25i-NBOMe on many occasions up to 2.2mg with no problems at all. Two days ago I tried 2mg of 25c-NBOMe and experienced severe vasoconstriction, coughing, difficulty breathing, and some other worrying symptoms. I had to abort the trip with 90mg of mirtazapine (remeron).

I am wondering if the alcohol I consumed (5-6 drinks) or the hookah I smoked the night before could have caused these symptoms? I am hoping it was caused by these instead of the switch to 25c.

IIRC the toxicology reports from a few NBOME deaths did contain alcohol. Perhaps the alcohol has an adverse synergy with 25x, and I would advise to stay away from alcohol, caffeine and energy drinks (also in toxicology report IIRC) . Perhaps look into natural vasodilators as well if you are concerned that much. Btw, your dose is excessive in my view if indeed that is the amount you took.

How is your tolerance? Sometime when tolerance is higher, people take higher doses, but get more negative effects than expected. Treat the 25x with respect, they have proven to not play well with others.