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Methamphetamine Discussion Thread 2.0

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Meth made me feel overall happy. Not hungry, full of energy etc. I mean of course at some point you cross over from occasional to full on addict and the darkside of the drug rears its ugly head. I haven't used Meth in almost 9 years. It was alot of fun (at first) then it all just went to shit.
 
^best roa once your over the stigma

No track marks and closest thing to dat rush
 
for sure, shooting 2 points up the clacker with warm water was bliss!
 
2 points? My anus would cower with fear at the sight of that, then demand I jab it into my arm instead.
 
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lovepsycho is on the money here - I've been on olanzapine for 12 months now and have gained 14kgs in the process....the price you pay for mental stability. serequel is just as bad but that shit makes you feel one step behind your body - fucked up feeling!

there is a new antipsychotic recently introduced called asenapine - looks promising as has little drowsiness, very little weight gain but need morning and night dosage - I'm going to explore this next week with my pdoc
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Yeah I started a thread in focus forum but I think a seroquel and eating a "Namwe" aka "stinking" aka dream fish would knock you the fuck out and give you some intense dreams even coming off a meth high. I've eaten these fish as a kid and growing up on an Island in the pacific most of the loacls love "Namwe" even over other nicer tasting species. You cook them up for dinner have a few beers and down a few of these little black bastards. They taste like they smell and like their name but you get used to it from an early age. Really profound dreams like supper vivid can be scary. There is an archive post about "Norfolk dream fish" that is closed. These sound exactly like the fish I grew up eating although my parents were not big fans all the rest of the family were and you'd stay at your cousins for dinner and eat these fish all the time. The kids slept well unless we had nightmares from the damn fish.

Also sedates you and makes sleep easier add the seroquel for extra sedation and appetite and you won't mind the taste at all. Eat enough and you can enter a trance like state. It's more like kava/kava with hints of LSA minus the nausea than what wiki describes as an LSD like effect (I call bullshit on wiki). They do not taste the best and some people despise them although most of my relatives love them and eat 3-4 for a dinner and sometimes after they just sit in a trance like state and stare at nothing. Need to direct them to bed and they just zonk out. Locals believe it's the sea plants they feed off that produce the effect.
 
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I agree - seroquel is god's gift to the tweaker although that brief minute as it hits when it feels like you are going into a coma is terrifying until after a few times and you realise you are safe.
 
Hello all - new to blue light but currently at home alone so toasted on meth it seems a good idea to unburden myself here!

Background: 45, retired after global business career, smoked dope daily from 14-18, shot speed every day through uni 18-21 then stopped drugs all together until about 40 when I discovered IV coke.

So I spent a huge part of my retirement funds on shooting coke - you've all heard it before gram after gram after gram shooting every 5 minutes until every cent is gone.

So after seeing I was going to lose everything I left the big city and all my coke dealers behind and moved to a country town thinking I would become a pillar of the community and grow veggies. Silly me..

Anyway first night I went to the pub I ran into some guys who took me to a party at - would you believe it - the number one drug dealers place which also turned out to be one block from my house. Turned out dealer and me went to same school and had a lot in common. He offered me a point of ice - I had never had it before - I shot it and immediately loved it more than coke. After the free one I opened my wallet and bought a half g and stayed at his place a day and night until it was all gone. The dealer was full service and allowed his good customers to stay as long as they wanted and he provided them with fits, water etc etc etc.

Before I even notice the ice had its claws into me I was spending 4/7 days there and doing a gram a week at least. I was the only person he ever gave credit too which made me feel very special and before a month was up he had me doing security on his door for him (it turned out I had zero fear of man or beast by this stage and stood down a lot of big ugly guys turning up outside of his open hours - which is pretty bizarre since I am such an easy going chilled live and let live guy normally) - I ended up physically turfing people down the stairs and into the street with complete disregard to later consequences.

This went on for 3 months and I estimate that I went through 20 grams IV in that time.

Fortunately the drug squad raided the place and put my dealer buddy in jail no bail - so I figured I had to chance to clean up and I managed a few weeks...however every low life in town who was breaking into cars to scrape together a half or quarter point deal now knew I was a fiend who was never short of money. So every where I went - or even when I was at home - people came round offering to hook me up.

My resolve lasted about 2 weeks and I cracked and started buying through these clowns and since I was fiending so much I just looked past the fact that the deals they were getting me were half (in weight) what I was paying for. I was lost for another source and had to take getting shafted. I suppose a quarter of the deals I got where worth it - and that was only when I bought speed in that yellow gluey form. The quality was crap and I needed over a gram a night to have any fun - no doubt this was part my tolerance but mostly the shitty connections I had.

All this went on for 2 months - until tonight - when I met an old old buddy who offered to let me come and evaluate his connection as a favour for past services - so around we went and bought a couple of points of ice and LET ME TELL YOU - I was finally sent into total lunar orbit at a very reasonable cost - possibly one of the best value for money deals I have ever done.

So as I write this I am doing my best to ride the waves of pure enjoyment but also have a bit of apprehension as to whether I will ever to be able to walk away from this drug in such a small town. There is huge irony in that I came here to clean myself up from coke and ended up feinding on a cheaper, more powerful and so much more dangerous alternative.

Stay tuned for my notification that I have booked myself a place in rehab (again)

Love to you all.
 
geez, ya almost telling my story brother!

gotta love the geographicals just to get away from it all - but it always follows you. I even changed countries multiple times and still picked up, even in countries where I couldn't speak the language....the infamous "nod of the head" is recognised everywhere - international drug language!

enjoy ya time in rehab man, ya want to kick the meth habit.......it'll win!
 
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geez, ya almost telling my story brother!

gotta love the geographicals just to get away from it all - but it always follows you. I even changed countries multiple times and still picked up, even in countries where I couldn't speak the language....the infamous "nod of the head" is recognised everywhere - international drug language!

enjoy ya time in rehab man, ya want to kick the meth habit.......it'll win!
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You are right Mork - I went to London earlier this year and through some clever moves on a couple of forums I got beautiful coke delivered to me in my rented apartment (together with the equipment I needed) just 3 hours after I touched down.

Needless to say, although the coke was 200 X better than at home I wasted that trip as I failed to get out of my apartment as the deliveries piled up.

Same thing happened in Paris once for that matter. And then there was the shabu shabu in Asia...

I know what is going wrong - I take a cocktail of psychiatric drugs (which actually reduce stimulant craving) and most of the time i feel pretty good about abstaining - but as soon as I mix alcohol with those meds all self-control and inhibitions fly out the and that global IV drug fiend shoots normal me in the head and takes over....then it is 3 or 4 days later when I notice what is actually happening. All that from one small glass of wine.

Only way to stop after a multi-day bender and not enter massive suicidal depression or anxiety is to drop (or plug) 1000 mg of seroquel. This makes for a stress and anxiety free recovery and plenty of sleep. Unfortunately it also means that I have nothing to be afraid of by taking excessive stimulants because I have my seroquel insurance in my pocket.

Pretty fucking hopeless right?
 
nah man, one day at a time. The best thing is that you want to be clean, that you've had enough and you've done your dash.......now it's just time to learn those tool that are required during the susceptible moments.

Man, I was prescribed 900mg of seroquel at my first rehab.......I was a dribbling mess who acted like I just had a frontal lobotomy!!

Stick around dude, share ya pain cause there are plenty here that can relate...

peace to ya
 
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nah man, one day at a time. The best thing is that you want to be clean, that you've had enough and you've done your dash.......now it's just time to learn those tool that are required during the susceptible moments.
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I made a big mistake going to Narcotics Anonymous for help. Turned out more than 50 % of the people were there involuntarily as part of their bail conditions for drug related crimes - great place to get hooked up.

Big shame though as I am great believer in 12 steps not just for going straight but managing life in general.
 
I'm far from a 12 stepper. my last rehab had it drummed into me for 12 months. I've taken what I need from the program i.e. what works for me and left the rest - no more meetings for this black duck. I'm actually not convinced that addiction is a disease - there is some amazing work being done by dr Marc Lewis - check it out!
 
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change needs to come from the inside ime.

you really need to want it for yourself.

i hope it works out for you brother. i hate reading sad stories like that.

NA & AA is a fucking joke ime. it does work for some people one of my parents was an AA success story in combination with every other scheme, hypnosis included. i found AA was as you said a great place to find connects but i really despised it cause it was just so god damn degrading/humiliating. the whole game is to break a person down i aint into that shit.
 
basically the 12 step program teaches you to own your own shit, take responsibility for your action and give in touch spiritually with yourself - that I agree but to say that you can't trust yourself and not get clean with out handing everything over to your higher power......that is what I cannot stomach! that's in the same bullshit basket as Christianity and all that hoo har!

I am responsible for my life and I control what I do and say, that it were I believe in the choice model. sure, handing things over for what you can't control is freeing but that is where it stops for me. MHO only
 
on board with team plug- the most devalued, under-appreciated and most certainly taboo route of administration. It basically has all the benefits of IV(in before minus the mad rush) with the same harm potential or even less as insufflation and just above oral. If administered correctly and the individual is kept in a foetal position for 15-30 minutes, you get the best of both worlds.
 
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