anyone try a 25i and 2c-e combo?

[trillish10]

i cant find much info on this. Im worried about saftey more than anything as both substances have had a recent history of tragedy. any comments would be approciated, as well as doseage. Thanks.

 

[Solipsis]

What would be the point? 25I-NBOMe is already a strong psychedelic via 5HT2A agonism, it just seems redundant to me. Or at least not worth adding 2C-E's potential body load. Why not find other ways to enhance the experience, with or without other drugs but prefereably with reasonable physical safety. Meditation or a very modest amount of cannabis or ketamine seem like a much better idea to me.

 

[Help?!?!]

What would be the point? 25I-NBOMe is already a strong psychedelic via 5HT2A agonism, it just seems redundant to me. Or at least not worth adding 2C-E's potential body load. Why not find other ways to enhance the experience, with or without other drugs but prefereably with reasonable physical safety. Meditation or a very modest amount of cannabis or ketamine seem like a much better idea to me.

It's not redundant as its been proven time and time again that combos of psyches are most certainly totally different monsters then one alone. I don't know if its just your philosophy, or your one of those "All natural is always better" types that pick up those sort of philosophies then engrave them into your mind, but with psychedelic combos being the target. Either way I respect it but wish you would stop claiming its "redundant" as the definition of redundant is, "not or no longer needed or useful; superfluous. Synonyms: unnecessary, not required, inessential, unessential, needless, unneeded, uncalled for." I must ask though what authority are you to claim this? I can understand if you saunter along and say "Hey combos aren't really that great for me" or something but you act as if one 5HTA agonist wouldn't be effected by adding another, the timing needs to be right or it is almost redundant(besides the fact most psychedelics have varying affinities for various 5HT receptors....one the first psychedelic might not, therefore adding a new element to the experience) unless you have a really low tolerance but dosed at the same time, once again its a totally different beast! I often wonder if you've ever properly tried a psychedelic combo, meaning you timed it so each substance would peak simultaneously so the near insta tolerance wouldn't affect it, maybe they do fight over certain receptors but it cannot be claimed that it's simply like dosing a single compound. Sorry to get off topic, i've just felt like addressing this with you for some years what your response is but never got around it, that I can remember anyways.


Although I do agree I probably wouldn't dose 25I and 2c-E together as the former is just too unknown and has caused deaths alone I still would never be ignorant(not that you are, no offense meant!)enough to call combining psyches redundant, such a damning word. I mean does combining opioids become redundant, no you simply get higher and higher(though obviously some will block effects of other opi's ala methadone/suboxone). I do agree though that adding MJ or a dissociative would be a better idea than another psychedelic, but if you decide to do this, tread lightly and begin low.

 

[Solipsis]

I have tried many psychedelic combo's and found them ranging from synergetic to acting almost competitively, I'm sure combining changes the nature of the experience but that is not necessarily for the better. My experience tells me that mixing drugs that are meant to do virtually the same often just complicate the matter when you can instead enrich it further. But something like 2C-B or 2C-C which have a lot of empathogenic qualities is different to add to typical psychedelic like LSD because it adds those qualities, if you can substantiate you're reasons for combining two psychedelics I'm fine with it - if it is a gut feeling and you want to try a certain combination of two drugs you have, I'm also fine.
Actually it's your own call all of the time, but when a person asks about 25I-NBOMe, a class of drugs which I don't really trust yet and which can apparently cause pretty severe psychedelia and euphoria, expressing similar concerns themselves, and without a proper motivation immediately handy I like to ask them about it. And while I'm at it... suggest that maybe it is better to not 'further provoke' a NBOMe's actions and toxicity or 'reason of mechanism of being potentially nasty in rare cases'. And if 25I-NBOMe or other NBOMe's don't really rub you the right way and don't cause that expected psychedelia and euphoria properly even when you titrate, maybe it is better to move on to something else instead of trying to make it something its just not. I'm not necessarily here to talk you out of using a particular drug but just consider that there might be completely different ways to approach this and while I do appreciate exploring absolutely every possible avenue, some of them *might* not be the way to go.
I'm using my own rationales and you use yoursez.

 

[trillish10]

Honestly, i dont plan on combining these two. i was just curious really. Niether really seem all that safe, that idea in my head while tripping would be enough to set me on a weird trip. Ive never done K, it seems interesting. Dissociatives are unmarked waters for me, besides DXM. I think id rather just stick to the classics, LSD and Mushrooms. At least until more information is available on substances like these.