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Well I never got that comedown Albion is supposed to eat his hat about. That was pretty strong serotonin release from 4-FA and 6-APDB. I did go a bit crazy on the night itself (got angry with BL (the site, not EADD folk)) but that was while I was still fucked, so much for PLUR :D

(Albion, I'll let you not eat your hat seeing as I was a dafty but there was no suicide Tuesday.)
 
Limpet_Chicken said:
Absolutely loving n-ethyl-5-APB, Fucking amazing stuff. Really gentle on the body too, at least for me. No comedown even after a 3 day session dropping the equivalent in pills of several grams (5-6x350mg pills), plus about 1.2g of MPA, via the IV route, the pills taken orally, and another dose of MPA mixed with n-methyl-2AI per os after the last day, just to keep me on my feet long enough to pick up a prescription.

No awful crash. Had that been MDMA or methylone, god damn would I ever have paid for that.

Its making me really want to try MDE, even if I have to start from scratch, and go through MDA and even a low-yielding alkylation. Does MDE ever really do the rounds in street pills these days? what is it like if anyone can compare the two.
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Is that UK legal and as good as the original apbs?

Wait is that just another name for 5-eapb?
 
Not exactly the right thread for this Knock, but i suspect the post will get noticed quicker here.

Regarding Kratom, and the 'youghurt method' what exactly is that ? Is it like having a spoonfull of dry kratom powder and knocking it back with youghurt ? Or mixing it straight into the yoghurt ?

I think i may use it for a few days to try to lessen the severity of bupe withdrawals, by doing a pretty quick kratom taper, as soon as i feel bupe w/ds kicking in.
 
IMO its MUCH better than 5-APB. and yes, its 5-EAPB.

Would be easier for most people if they just marketed it as n-ethyl-5APB, to make it clearer that this is the MDE analog corresponding to 5-APB. Lovely stuff, absofuckinglutely great. And this coming from someone who all but hates MDMA, methylone, due to their prosocial, artificially NT-ifying (yes thats a word, at least, it is now) effect.

Find it kind of sedating in a way, it in me, induces a warm, languorous, sleepy state, halfway between awake and asleep almost. Managed to fall asleep even on a dose of over a gram and a half, after shooting 1.2g of MPA IV. Had some synthetic herb 'king cobra', which by all accounts is fucking strong stuff.

Ended up doing some good on it the last time I was in town, a homeless guy, obviously freezing his bollocks off, cold, hungry, just asked for a little change towards a cup of coffee, I'd just eaten in a cafe, thought do a good deed for the day, and said come in, warm up, and got him a hot drink, guy was pretty shocked when I told him to grab his choice of a cake to munch on with it. Shared a bit of the warmth etc. Normally I don't have much money at all myself, but I'd just been paid that day, so had enough to share a little.

Kratom, as long as its in powder form, or alkaloid extract crystals, I just toss and wash. Although I'd need a fuckton to hold me courtesy of being stuck on chronic pain management (I say stuck on, but at least it means free OC 80s twice a day, every day, as long as I need it thanks to the NHS. Mix that with free rigs from the exchange, its fun and games all round haha=D

For coarser ground leaf, I make an electuary using honey as the base, the more viscous the better, semi-crystallized but still gooey honey is the best. Easy to wash down with a gulp of whatever potable fluid is to hand.
 
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Limpet_Chicken said:
Kratom, as long as its in powder form, or alkaloid extract crystals, I just toss and wash. Although I'd need a fuckton to hold me courtesy of being stuck on chronic pain management (I say stuck on, but at least it means free OC 80s twice a day, every day, as long as I need it thanks to the NHS. Mix that with free rigs from the exchange, its fun and games all round haha=D

For coarser ground leaf, I make an electuary using honey as the base, the more viscous the better, semi-crystallized but still gooey honey is the best. Easy to wash down with a gulp of whatever potable fluid is to hand.
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Good ideas. Thank you. Im down to 0.25 of bupe which is about as small as its possible to cut the tablets down to. I tried to stop last week and it was much harder than i expected, so i may use Kratom to try to smooth things out as much as possible on my next quit attempt.

I find Kratom tea really hard to drink without gagging. These techniques of yours, especially the honey one, sound like a good idea.
 
Be careful though, I had a very bad reaction with Kratom and subutex, it was before July when I quit my multiple year long daily kratom regimen, one saturday afternoon I snorted a wee bit of subs on top kratom and felt like I was going to die, weak, couldn't walk properly, nauseated, insane intense headache, blurred vision, felt like shit. Also shivering and sweating like crazy.

Don't take the kratom until you're well sure the subs is out of your system
 
OK cheers for the advice. Last time i tried to stop Id had 0.25 about 10am the day before, and by 3.40 pm the next day i was feeling rotten. I guess that was the sign the subs were out of my system. I'll try to hold off as long as possible though.

Im going to be doing things the opposite way round to you, ie not taking subs on top of kratom, but taking kratom after the subs. I can see that the same outcome might happen if i take the Kratom too soon though.
 
Just mix it thoroughly into your yoghurt. And slowly, the powder goes everywhere if you're not careful! I mix with the spoon handle, prevents a big clump of dry kratom forming in the spoon. I normally use a (very) heaped teaspoon. Used to weigh it out at 3-5g but a heaped teaspoon is about that.
 
Drugbuddy-for smaller reductions, why not just prepare a dilution series, I.e if Xmg of bupe is dissolved in 1ml solvent, then it should be easy to calculate Y quantity of drug per unit or group of units of the calibration scale of a normal insulin rig.
 
I hate being the last post on a page, repost! Was diclazepam powder ever available? And was it confirmed as being water soluble?
 
yes I have diclazepam powder. Not tried dissolving in water, if it's like other benzos then no.

If I feel energetic I'll try some for you.

never let it be said I let anyone be the last post unwillingly :)
 
limpet, yours is probably the first report of a good time on 5eapb.. bit im hardly jumping on, as you mixed it with good amounts of mpa too...
ever tried it on its own?
 
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yes I have diclazepam powder. Not tried dissolving in water, if it's like other benzos then no.

If I feel energetic I'll try some for you.

never let it be said I let anyone be the last post unwillingly :)
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i read your post and cnt help but get a little jealous its like a list in a drug store lol :) lucky bugger
 
Yes I have, and I loved the stuff. Liked n-methyl-5-APB also.

Just off to pick up some more beans, MPA and methinks a bag of smoke blend to last until my order of the isolated compounds gets here :)
 
Limpet_Chicken said:
Drugbuddy-for smaller reductions, why not just prepare a dilution series, I.e if Xmg of bupe is dissolved in 1ml solvent, then it should be easy to calculate Y quantity of drug per unit or group of units of the calibration scale of a normal insulin rig.
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i was thinking about something along those lines, but i was having doubts about taking liquids sublibgulay. I mean they dont fit neatly into that special place under your tongue do they, Thats my problem with that idea but thanks anyway. I know you can get 0.4mg pills and it seems you can aslo get 0.2 pills. I think I'll try them if i can get them, to get my dose as low as possible before jumping.
 
There is always making a much more concentrated solution, and thence using 1ml insulin shooting irons to measure it out in small fractional units. Or if thats a pain in the arse to make the conc. soln. you could try making a 1mg/ml one in EtOH then evaporating off a known volume of the EtOH until the low volume is achieved.


Or, stick the solution up your arse.
 
ColourfulKronos said:
I hate being the last post on a page, repost! Was diclazepam powder ever available? And was it confirmed as being water soluble?
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diclazepam powder was and is available, it doesn't dissolve in watter

it dissolves in peg but not as well as say etizolam powder

i wouldn't go higher than 1mg/ml (actually I'd rather go for 0.5mg/m, 1mg/ml could crash if it's in a cold place (mine did) or you accidentally put in a bit more)

and you need a little heat if you want it to happen quickly

tbh unless you have a specific reason for wanting diclazepam i'd much rather go with etizolam powder

just checked your post on the last page

pyrazolam is water soluble, powder is supposedly available (haven't seen any, but I never looked)
 
Limpet_Chicken said:
There is always making a much more concentrated solution, and thence using 1ml insulin shooting irons to measure it out in small fractional units. Or if thats a pain in the arse to make the conc. soln. you could try making a 1mg/ml one in EtOH then evaporating off a known volume of the EtOH until the low volume is achieved.


Or, stick the solution up your arse.
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lol, charming. ;) I think im gonna try the 0.2 pills if i can get them. If i cant i may try liquid dosing but i cant see it being as effective as the pills because the liquid is just gonna get absorbed by the mouths saliva making it much less concentrated, and probably wont as be as effectively absorbed SL'y.
 
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