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Is she lying?

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I have been with my girlfriend for six years now, through the good times and the bad, and right now we're going through our awkward 20s on hard-mode (in other words, nursing a heroin addiction).

I have always trusted her, and she has always trusted me; I have never before had a reason not to believe her, but ever since moving in with her and her family (not really what I wanted, but you know how things go...) I get the feeling that she has lied to me on two occasions.

First, she came up with $25 that, according to her, she found inside her father's old truck. Well, inside her father's old truck and inside the clothes dryer ($20 and $5, "respectively") What a lucky find, right? And money that ends up in places like that no one seems to ever miss. Her father really does lose money quite often, as he makes so much of it and he's one of those real blue-collar types who insists on only paying in cash and keeps a wad of it in his pocket and in his wallet and everywhere else.

Well, when we came home that day from picking up some dope, my girlfriend's grandmother tells us that there's a thief living in our house and it has got to be one of us, as she's missing $25. How incredible is that, right? The woman is missing the exact same amount of money that my girlfriend just so happened to find! My girlfriend would not admit to it, though.

Now, what could be more incredible than that? It happening a second time, right? Well, it did! My girlfriend tells me a few days later that she found $20 in the bathroom by the toilet. It must have fallen out of her father's pocket, she tells me. Now, at this point, I'm pretty suspicious and I tell her that if her grandmother says anything about missing $20, then I'll know she's lying to me. Her response is, "Well, my grandmother could have dropped it as well and then she might think we stole it, but I think my father dropped it, and he won't notice."

We come home, and guess who's missing $20? You guessed it!

So now am I to believe that my girlfriend is just the luckiest person in the world, living with the clumsiest people in the world, and she's being accused of stealing when really she's just finding and not returning... or am I to believe that she's stealing this money outright and lying to me about it?

I do know that her father drops money everywhere, so finding money in her father's old truck is not all that implausible, but what are the odds that she would find $20 one place, $5 another place, and then we come home and - tada- her grandmother is missing that same amount of money? And what are the odds that it would happen a second time with $20 ... ? She's lying to me, right?
 
Hmmm...normally I would say give her the benefit of the doubt. However, if she is struggling with a dope habit, I would say that it is too much of a coincidence to pass off.

I think you should just look her in the eye and ask that she be straight up with you about it, reminding her that you will not judge her either way.

The answer that she gives *might* give you a better insight into her character. I mean, it could just be a coincidence, but the way you presented it, I doubt it.

Not only that, but if I lived in that situation and found money in the bathroom,etc, I really think the right thing to do would be to say...hey dad, grandma...I found this money, is it yours? And hope they tell me to keep it. Finders keepers seems a little shifty if you have a good idea who the money belongs to, and it is a family member to boot.
 
I think you should just look her in the eye and ask that she be straight up with you about it, reminding her that you will not judge her either way.

She insists, even with my looking her in the eyes, but I just don't believe her. I don't see how this could statistically be possible; I mean, what in the fuck are the odds? Really? Again, she has got to be the luckiest person living with the clumsiest people ever for this to be likely.
 
even if she "found it" surely it obviously comes from a family member, and the right thing to do would be give it back? Keeping "found " money when you know whose it is is as dishonest as stealing it.
 
I agree...and I guess it is always "possible" it happened the way she said but it would just be too muxh of a coincidence. You have been with her a long time and I assume lying has never been an issue before but we all know that when you become dope hungry you will say and do things you would have normally never ever considered doing before.

I also agree with regardless of how it happened its a matter of "hey grandma, you lost $25, I happened to find $25..here you are".
 
It definitely sounds like a lie to me. Perhaps it's time to reevaluate the relationship you're in. Two addicts together is a highly volatile situation that rarely ends well. Tread lightly my friend.
 
You say her dad keeps this wad of cash that is bound to lose a few notes here and there. That would be somewhat possible. But how does she/you explain that her grandma loses that cash? Im guessing she doesnt walk about the house with a huge wad of cash also. And if nothing else, older people are very meticulous (unless shes very forgetful and confused), keeping everything just like "that", knowing where things are because they have little else to do. Its quite difficult to not notice leaving money somewhere twice, even two bills the first time. How would she lose 20 and 25 bucks like that, do you think its likely?
 
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Umm she is lying. You have a habit and if you don't get a fix you get sick? If so you do anything to make yourself feel ok again even if just for a few hours. Your GF is lying to you and stealing from her family. It just comes with the territory I'm afraid. Once you develop a healthy (or unhealthy) smack habit nothing else matters as much as that next hit. My advice next time she finds $20 or whatever have nothing to do with her scoring any gear and don't use anything she paid for with stolen money, unless you want to be just as guilty as she is. My advice try and get a job and keep it to say 2-3 hits per day so you don't get dope sick and try and reduce your use every week until you only need say 1 hit a day. Good luck. :)
 
Yes she is did you really need the reassurance?

But somewhere in the back of your mind I believe you know this, and the second dope trip you two made I believe you also didn't care if she stole it or not because you where going out to buy drugs. Sometimes drugs have a profound effect on our lives and we will get drugs however we can.

If you really care that she is stealing money have a good talk with her. Why can't she go out and get a job? Or ask a family member if she can get a loan?

Well good luck OP.
 
Yeah that does all sound a bit dodgy...I hope she's not but heroin really can change people and push them to do things they would never consider otherwise. She surely knows you wouldn't be overly thrilled if you were 100% sure she was taking money from your grandmother, it's probably easier to lie :\
Not quite sure what you can do about this though except cross your fingers she doesn't do it again. I hope things go okay for the both of you, regarding the heroin specifically.
 
If she genuinely didn't steal it, she would be infuriated at the accusation that she would rob her own family. That is a serious personal insult if the accusation is untrue. Instead, she looks you in the eye and just denies it. Stealing from your own grandmother is a pretty low act, and if my partner accused me of being that kind of person, then it certainly wouldn't go down too well.

And as another poster said - if a member of your family drops money in the house, the "finders keepers" rule hardly applies. It's a family home, not some random street.

Trust your instincts and your head. I'm all for giving people you trust the benefit of the doubt (obviously), but IMO, it would simply defy logic to do so in this instance.

Six years is a long time. Perhaps it would be beneficial if you both took some time apart to get your shit together separately?

Sorry. Shitty situation you're in - good luck with it.
 
Ouch. I think you already know the answer. I think it's hard to take,so you're trying to find another way, but you know what addictions provoke people to do.

Good luck.

i agree, from reading the op i think he knows deep down whats up.
it sounds like she is lying to you.
 
A saying I think about a lot: the difference between an addict and an alcoholic, an alcoholic will steal your wallet and feel bad about it an addict will steal your wallet and help you look for it. Addiction taints a lot of things unfortunately and completely skews your moral compass (for some).
 
A saying I think about a lot: the difference between an addict and an alcoholic, an alcoholic will steal your wallet and feel bad about it an addict will steal your wallet and help you look for it. Addiction taints a lot of things unfortunately and completely skews your moral compass (for some).

That doesn't make sense.
An alcoholic IS an addict.
This saying doesn't really mean much at all.

On a side note, I haven't responded to this thread yet because it is really is a tough call. You want to, you SHOULD, trust your girlfriend of six years. But at the same time, that is really coincidental.

BUT it happened twice. I'd be tempted to let it slide unless it happened again and it was the exact same amount. If her dad is always leaving cash all over the place.... that's weird too.
 
A saying I think about a lot: the difference between an addict and an alcoholic, an alcoholic will steal your wallet and feel bad about it an addict will steal your wallet and help you look for it. Addiction taints a lot of things unfortunately and completely skews your moral compass (for some).

That doesn't make sense.
An alcoholic IS an addict.
This saying doesn't really mean much at all.

Yeah...what?
I get the point but having alcoholism separate is completely idiotic...anyway...any updates verso? :\
 
Drug addicts and alcoholics do have a different mentality. It might have something to do with the ease of access to their crutch of choice. The saying holds a lot of truth.

As for finding money in the home, they hardly "lost" the money if they haven't left the house. A bathroom is simply somewhere you place your possessions down, to return to later on. Trust your gut, she is stealing from her family. Perhaps it's time you mentioned it to her family before you get the blame. Either way you won't be living there for long.
 
sadly noone here can confirm for you where the funds truly came from. you have two choices, to sit and really talk about it with your girlfriend honestly and hope that the honesty is reciprocated or to simply rely on your own instincts and make an assumption from there.

...kytnism...:|
 
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