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Misc Took Too Much Phenibut

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brownjesus4566

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I took phenibut for the first time this week, and it has completely subverted my expectations. It's actually really traumatic right now, please help me. Sorry if I'm writing weirdly, it's the phenibut.

So on Wednesday night, I first took 2 grams, didn't feel anything, even after two hours. Like an idiot, I took three more that night, trying to get something out of it. Don't feel anything that night. The next morning, I take 2 more, I think was too high off phenibut to stop myself. Anxiety free until like three in the afternoon, and then I literally pass out in class. My friend has to wake me up, I go back to my dorm, and sleep for like 20 hours straight. I wake up Friday, feeling pretty good, but its starting to feel a little weird, my friends are noticing somethings up. I feel a little out of it, I'm weirdly silent at random times, and I have random bursts of sociability and energy. I took about 700 mg in the evening, because I was drinking later that night and wanted to feel the synergistic effects. Stupid, I know. I end up drinking a lot that night, don't really feel a lower tolerance of booze on phenibut, but I still get hammered. I wake up the next morning (today) high out of my mind, its not even a good high, im questioning everything, I'm acting weird as fuck and sketchy, and I can't focus on homework at all.

It's persisted the whole day today, and it shows no signs of going away. I have midterms in a few days, I have to study, but I can't focus on anything, and I'm feeling severe brain fog.

Please, if anyone knows a way to stop this madness, please tell me. I'm so scared right now, in the span of one day I'm breaking all my relationships with my friends and roommate. I really want this to end. Thanks in advance.

This is like a high that won't stop, it's really starting to get scary. Need some help here

Also, could the alcohol have potentiated the effects of the phenibut. Thought it would be the other way around
 
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Welcome to BL... There is really not much you can do except chill out. You asked how to stop the madness? Well, don't do it. There's really not much more to say. Just relax and watch TV and movies. You just used up a lot of GABA. Your brain is recovering from a large, and pretty dangerous, shock. Most likely you will not be successful at anything you do for the foreseeable future. The more you try and get shit done and fail the more anxious you're going to get. I'm pretty close to certain that you will tank your midterms if you take 'em. I think you need to work on a way to get out of them.

I wake up Friday, feeling pretty good, but its starting to feel a little weird, my friends are noticing somethings up. I feel a little out of it, I'm weirdly silent at random times, and I have random bursts of sociability and energy. I took about 700 mg in the evening, because I was drinking later that night and wanted to feel the synergistic effects. Stupid, I know... I end up drinking a lot that night, don't really feel a lower tolerance of booze on phenibut, but I still get hammered. I wake up the next morning (today) high out of my mind, its not even a good high, im questioning everything, I'm acting weird as fuck and sketchy, and I can't focus on homework at all.
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C'mon man... You say 'stupid, I know' but it really sounds like you don't. You said you and your friends can tell you're acting weird and out of it, so you decided to take more?!?!?! Then, on top of taking more despite a bad reaction, you drink? Drinking on barbituates is more dangerous than drinking on benzos, and that's pretty bad too. It's one thing if you have a drink or 2 when on barbs, but getting hammered! It would be irresponsible of me to not call out your really dangerous combo. I'm not exaggerating either. On all these posts I often say something dangerous even when it really isn't. When people ask about taking a xanax after a few beers. I gotta tell them it's dangerous when in reality it's probably okay. This time, however, I really mean it when I say you should never do that again. It's not even about the fact that you dosed despite feeling weird. It all has to do with alcohol. I know you're in college but you can't be drinking all the time. Drinking is fun and awesome, but just don't mix it with drugs. I know you're thinking "but it's so fun with ____." Yes, it is, and most of the time if you drink and do drugs you're going to be fine, BUT most times there is a bad situation involving drugs, alcohol is usually part of it.
 
You didn't take enough for an overdose, in fact the total amount you consumed was fairly high, but not toxic. (I personally take 9.5 grams a day.) Your mistake was dosing so many times in such short durations; phenibut takes up to 4 hours to kick in, and it's also an extremely long-lasting drug. Try not to panic; I honestly believe you'll be fine.

It sounds like you're not enjoying the drug, but if you decide to do it again, make sure to only take one single dose. Before I had a tolerance, I took a 3 gram dose, and 4 hours later I was as serene as a Buddhist monk. I like the drug, but it's very important you don't use it every day; tolerance build-up is rapid and phenibut is habit-forming, with WD comparable to that of benzos, only not as intense or long lasting.
 
Thanks for the info/support dude. Yeah I'm never taking this stuff again, can't believe its legal. I really don't know why I dosed so much, that shocked me too. I was thinking about using the phenibut weekly to help with social anxiety, that's not happening lol. There is no way I can get out of that midterm, just gonna have to do my best :/ I think it's wearing off somewhat, hopefully I'll be good to study in a couple days. Thanks again man.

@dopemegently do you think i'll be fine tomorrow? based on your experience with huge amounts of pheni?

thanks to the both of you

I honestly can't figure out if this is a comedown, some kind of withdrawal, or if I'm still feelin the phenibut.

"@dopemegently do you think i'll be fine tomorrow? based on your experience with huge amounts of pheni?" wait i just realized that might have sounded sarcastic, not my intention lol.
 
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Well your case sounds quite complicated so I really couldn't tell you how long you'll feel bad. Of course, you'll feel back to normal when the drugs are out of your system; you've done no permanent damage, it's just that phenibut has a long half life. Interestingly, I find the phenibut "hangover" quite enjoyable. I have to say it's quite likely your booze use is the culprit here; the two drugs target exactly the same receptors. Once on phenibut, I drank a third of my usual booze intake, and I was utterly wasted. The next day I had the most evil hangover known to man. I'd just say be patient, safe in the knowledge you'll feel your old self soon.
 
@dopemegently sounds good man. wait do you feel more social and less inhibited on phenibut? cause for me it was pretty much the opposite. i actually expected it to be similar to alcohol, but it felt a lot more like marijuana, mixed with a muscle relaxer. and how long have you been taking pheni?
 
Haha no problem; phenibut gives me a bad case of "diarrhea of the keyboard", too. I actually find it to have nootropic effects ie I think a lot more clearly, and tend to write and post a great deal more than usual. Many don't experience this, however. Funnily enough, it is actually sold as a nootropic by some vendors; in fact this is the very same drug they gave to Ruskie cosmonauts back in the cold war.

For myself, I would compare it with alcohol, with none of the sense of intoxication, dizziness, etc. It makes me very calm, and has worked wonders for my anxiety. I also take suboxone, and sometimes I like to mix it with high doses of phenibut and gallons of coffee; this gives me some very intense body rushes, although it's not worth it for those skull-crushing caffeine headaches.
 
I took some phenibut before bed last night. Took 600mg. It's really very valuable as a drug, but I'd seriously recommend you give yourself a few weeks break, then dose *before* you go to bed at night, if you want to experience the beneficial effects the next day. The 8 or so grams you took between wed and fri is way too much.

Don't expect a recreational effect similar to your standard recreational drugs. Actually, if you're quite a talkative/sociable person normally, don't expect a darned lot. Phenibut works wonders for those who are introverted, maybe mildly depressed, and socially awkward (like me. Seriously, if I wasn't 'on' phenibut right now, I'd shrink away from this post).

Please don't consider any of these 'I downed 2 grams a day for a week' stories. That's just silly. 500mg-1g once per week before bed is plenty enough if you want to enjoy phenibut regularly, without tolerance/dependence.

Give your head a rest for a few weeks. Take it easy. Be good. Then start again....and *be responsible*. =D
 
1. Flush Phenibut down the toilet.
2. Don't ever order Phenibut again.

Hopefully you have learned to respect the fact that, despite a substance being legal, it can still put you in a world of hell if you abuse it. The main goal of this site is harm prevention. If more people would do their homework on any given substance before trying it, there would be less instances like yours. Learn from the mistakes of the many who have come before you.

I read and reread about Phenibut long before I ever tried it and I am so glad I did. If you insist on taking Phenibut again in the near future, never take it more than once a week. Twice is pushing it. Three times is begging for a tolerance buildup, to be quickly followed by a dosage increase that will grow from week to week. You'll be fine and I'm glad you found bluelight. We are glad to have you here. There is much to learn here that will keep you from becoming another statistic. When in doubt, ask. Someone will have the answer you need. Be safe, always!
 
Seems like you've got a pretty good handle on your usage; its great that you've gotten so much benefit out of the otc. For the effects you mentioned feeling on pheni, I believe I feel the same ones, but for some reason they are negative experiences for me. LOL sorry I'm bombarding you with questions, but could you answer a few more for me? When you last drank alcohol with phenibut, did you experience brain fog as part of your hangover? And how long did it last? I'm pretty worried about this seemingly long lasting side effect.

@dopemegently
 
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@Frank, Thanks for the advice and support, it's really helping me out. Already flushed my supply down the toilet, it's just not worth it for me. Just gotta make it through this day and I think I'll be fine. Do you think I have been experiencing withdrawal or simply prolonged effects of the drug? I'm having trouble falling asleep, byt I also feel really relaxed in bed. And, do you have any advice for getting through this (hopefully) last day of ill effects? Thank you!

@velmwend Thanks for the info and advice! Your dosage seems like the perfect amount to enjoy phenibut and not experience the dreaded tolerance increase. I wish I had used that dosage instead of bingeing on phenibut like no tomorrow :P. I'm probably not going to take the stuff again, but just wondering, Do you experience a confidence boost on phenibut? That was one of the effects I was olooking forward to, but didn't actually experience.
 
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brownjesus4566 said:
@velmwend Thanks for the info and advice! Your dosage seems like the perfect amount to enjoy phenibut and not experience the dreaded tolerance increase. I wish I had used that dosage instead of bingeing on phenibut like no tomorrow :P. I'm probably not going to take the stuff again, but just wondering, Do you experience a confidence boost on phenibut? That was one of the effects I was olooking forward to, but didn't actually experience.
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Hi Jesus.

In answer to your question: Yep, I experience a good confidence boost. Here's what I experience on 600mg pure phenny. (I get mine pure from a popular auction site in the UK - it's great stuff. You get it in a tub with a little measuring spoon that doses out 160mg at a time) .

1. Increased Empathy
2. Increased Libido
3. Increased Confidence
4. Increased Sociability
5. Increased Creativity
6. Ideas! (My brain makes connections very easily, and ideas flow well)
7. Anti-depressant effects
8. Great for a refreshing night's sleep.
9. loosening of inhibitions (similar to light alcohol intoxication). Be careful with this on forums. I've been saying some right dodgy shit this morning, lol.

I mean, if you take way too much, or too little of any drug, you're going to experience a negative effect. You took wayyyy too much, and I'm not surprised you've felt the the way you have.

It does take a good few hours to kick in. The reason I take it before bed the previous night is because it acts as a perfect sleep aid for me, and I feel as if it's only just kicking in properly when I wake up. It can last up to 24 hours, too.

I wouldn't give up on it. It *is* a very valuable aid, very misunderstood by a lot, and stupidly abused, to the point that it's effects will diminish rapidly and it will be useless. Pretty sad state of affairs for such a beautiful drug.

Tell ya what: give it two weeks, then try 600mg an hour before bed *once a week* See how you get on. =D
 
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@velmwend Thanks for the info man. Yeah it seems like it'd be a really beneficial drug with the right dosage. I'll consider trying it again in a few weeks.
It's been 36 hours since I last took phenibut, I really don't know why I'm still feeling this damned brain fog. Even with as high a dose as I had this stuff should have worn off by now. Just frustrated with this experience in general, do you know any supplements that would help replenish my gaba receptors? Hope this ends soon..
 
Don´t worry, brownjesus, you´ll be fine. I also can feel phenibut the next 1-2 days after the day of usage, this substance seems to have a pretty long afterglow. with regular doses, the afterglow is a lot more enjoyable :)
 
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@velmwend Thanks for the info man. Yeah it seems like it'd be a really beneficial drug with the right dosage. I'll consider trying it again in a few weeks.
It's been 36 hours since I last took phenibut, I really don't know why I'm still feeling this damned brain fog. Even with as high a dose as I had this stuff should have worn off by now. Just frustrated with this experience in general, do you know any supplements that would help replenish my gaba receptors? Hope this ends soon..
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You could try picamilon. It's gaba and niacin bond. Niacin (b3) helps the gaba cross the bbb, where it separates into b3 and gaba. Worth a try. (?) :)
 
Yeah, that seems like it could work, I'll try it. The thing is, I still feel hungover: anxiety and inability to focus, but I think the phenibut still might be working in some way because my body is really relaxed. Have any of you guys noticed this in phenibut comedown?
 
For me, the entirety of the phenibut experience includes two types of anxiety: One is characterized by euphoric and anxious "butterflies" in the stomach, and is accompanied by some of the "I'm in love" effects that velmwend mentioned above.

The other is the dysphoric, withdrawal anxiety. This is an edgy anxiety with a decreased ability to focus, and sometimes a tremor and lack of coordination/distance judgment. If you can lay still in bed, but simply cannot fall asleep, it seems like you are in some form of withdrawal. I wouldn't expect it to last too long. Your dosing was heavy, but it was over a relatively short period.
 
@dementia yeah it's been really weird for me the past couple of days. I could only get about 4 hours of sleep last night, and yet I woke up in a great mood today. The brain fog has lessened, although its still there. What I got from this is that phenibut is a fucking unpredictable drug for me, don't know why I'm reacting so strangely to it
 
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