Gibberings CXLVI: I've Seen Things, I've Seen Them With My Badgers

[Bearlove]

Were worried about Sammy G - he enjoying Heroin atm, gone from the odd toot, to the odd pin, to pinning on a school night etc. (no disrespect meant / implied to Sammy G at all [not my place]).

 

[mydrugbuddy]

he seems to be doing it safely enough, from what i have gathered.

 

[Bearlove]

Tbh Sam is a grown up with abilities to judge if he is getting in too deep, the concern is fair enough but it's not like he has someone forcing him to administer smack, people don't moan like this in the heroin threads.......

This is not the heroin threads - this is EADD, if we can't express our concerns about one of our own. Yes Sammy G is a grown adult, doesn't stop us caring about him.

 

[breakcorefiend]

Were worried about Sammy G - he enjoying Heroin atm, gone from the odd toot, to the odd pin, to pinning on a school night etc. (no disrespect meant / implied to Sammy G at all [not my place]).

I see what your saying, yea it's a jump from a weekend toot to a midweek pin but I think Sam knows what he is doing, he seems quite astute to me regarding these matters but still it's nice that people care enough to get concerned, tbh I have never injected anything bar a ketamine IM yrs back, once we see Sam start to show the signs that things aren't all rosy is the time to get concerned IMO

 

[koneko]

Were worried about Sammy G - he enjoying Heroin atm, gone from the odd toot, to the odd pin, to pinning on a school night etc. (no disrespect meant / implied to Sammy G at all [not my place]).

Ah ok, hit me on the head I'm now with that programme tell me my concern n' nagging has already been logged there Doubt anything anyone has to say will make a difference. Does it with any of us?

 

[mydrugbuddy]

yeah i think it does, i know i come here for feedback and advice and support.

 

[Albion]

I'd say so. I can remember the times people expressed concern about my own drug use.

Shows people care, y'know. It goes a long way.

 

[koneko]

I see what your saying, yea it's a jump from a weekend toot to a midweek pin but I think Sam knows what he is doing, he seems quite astute to me regarding these matters but still it's nice that people care enough to get concerned, tbh I have never injected anything bar a ketamine IM yrs back, once we see Sam start to show the signs that things aren't all rosy is the time to get concerned IMO

I'm really glad you've all pushed this concern for Sam. It's not just me or the odd random, it looks like quite a few people are concerned bout him. fucking take note C. What can we realistically offer? He knows how I feel about him but that don't matter a shit. I don't want anything bad to happen to him and he's raising the stakes so high on that, but doens't give a shit about anyone else and how we'd feel if the worst happened...Fucking hell, smack is so selfish....I'm going to get upset thinking about it, please don't. Pm him please and tell him how you feel.

 

[breakcorefiend]

I'm really glad you've all pushed this concern for Sam. It's not just me or the odd random, it looks like quite a few people are concerned bout him. fucking take note C. What can we realistically offer? He knows how I feel about him but that don't matter a shit. I don't want anything bad to him and he's raising the stakes so high on that...I'm going to get upset thinking about it, please don't. Pm him please.

I completely understand your point, my reason for the post I gave is that no matter what you say to a person who is intent on doing something is that it's a wasted breath, I don't mean Sam won't take what you are saying to heart, I'm sure he will pm you in due time, what I'm saying is the lecturing isn't going to help if he is already not in a good place, at times like these the best approach is to wait till Sam has asked for help then give him all your concern, as far as I can see Sam is well capable of making his decisions and if he gets into trouble I'm sure eadd will know about it, sorry if this sounds heartless, but I'm just saying it from both sides, I have been told by ppl that my usage is getting bad and not in a way that I was agreeing with ppl, and the result was me getting a lot worse


Ps Kate I will pm you with all the latest regarding my Shite as I remember you were concerned

 

[mydrugbuddy]

i allready have, some of his posts are contradictory, but as i said above i think he is doing it as safely as possible.

 

[Bearlove]

Ah ok, hit me on the head I'm now with that programme tell me my concern n' nagging has already been logged there Doubt anything anyone has to say will make a difference. Does it with any of us?

It may make no difference to any of us but 'IF' it makes a difference with 'Sammy G' is it not worth a try ? My personal point of view on this though - where does the friendly jibes start to the individual sound like your patronizing them or trying to tell them what to do.

 

[lurching]

He made a thread a while back asking us if he should have a final binge before getting on some moodstabilizing meds, I guess this is it. People warned him in that thread to not go overboard , tbh it all sounded pretty precarious to me -- both the idea of such a blowout, and his situation in general, so I can see the general concern here C,I can still follow up on that offer this week once I get some IRL stuff sorted.

 

[koneko]

I completely understand your point, my reason for the post I gave is that no matter what you say to a person who is intent on doing something is that it's a wasted breath, I don't mean Sam won't take what you are saying to heart, I'm sure he will pm you in due time, what I'm saying is the lecturing isn't going to help if he is already not in a good place, at times like these the best approach is to wait till Sam has asked for help then give him all your concern, as far as I can see Sam is well capable of making his decisions and if he gets into trouble I'm sure eadd will know about it, sorry if this sounds heartless, but I'm just saying it from both sides, I have been told by ppl that my usage is getting bad and not in a way that I was agreeing with ppl, and the result was me getting a lot worse

Totally get where you're coming from and have been around when similar concerns where happening about yourself.

However, there's a moral responsibility to say something, however impotent that is - just saying you care helps us who do! Don't think any of us are kidding ourselves on that we can solve any of these troubles - if we could we'd be rich, getting awards and on tv! You know what it's like tho' its those caring, on the sidelines, involved etc that suffer just as much, watching, unempowered and helpless to do anything that can help.

We're all adults here, aye. But nowt wrong with expressing concern and love for someone we care about struggling. Sam knows my take, I'll be patient and trust in him to be the better person and to laugh at me. I have confidence in him.

Anyhoo, how are you?

 

[ColtDan]

Shows people care, y'know. It goes a long way.

this. plus the recently loss of people due to downers, we're gonna show a bit of concern. after all this is a harm reduction place, and we've been chatting to each other for years,

 

[breakcorefiend]

Totally get where you're coming from and have been around when similar concerns where happening about yourself.

However, there's a moral responsibility to say something, however impotent that is - just saying you care helps us who do! Don't think any of us are kidding ourselves on that we can solve any of these troubles - if we could we'd be rich, getting awards and on tv! You know what it's like tho' its those caring, on the sidelines, involved etc that suffer just as much, watching, unempowered and helpless to do anything that can help.

We're all adults here, aye. But nowt wrong with expressing concern and love for someone we care about struggling.

Anyhoo, how are you?

I COMPLETELY AGREE, seriously I really do, but I'm thinking its be best for Sam to show signs that he isn't in control before ppl start getting worried, anyway I don't know the ins and outs of Sams situation, I am very overdue a pm to him

 

[ColtDan]

He might be in control but if i recall hes in a not giving a shit state of mind. anyway ive had my input, whatever. good to show concern and empathy aint it, decent caring people do that

 

[breakcorefiend]

He might be in control but if i recall hes in a not giving a shit state of mind. anyway ive had my input, whatever

Completely agree, but.. When someone is in a difficult situation giving advice is one thing, you can take it or leave it, but when it becomes almost a witchhunt(prob a bad word) because Sam is continuing with his activities, it does not serve as help, it will make him avoid this place because he feels a pressure, prob just my opinion but I wanna state it

 

[koneko]

I COMPLETELY AGREE, seriously I really do, but I'm thinking its be best for Sam to show signs that he isn't in control before ppl start getting worried, anyway I don't know the ins and outs of Sams situation, I am very overdue a pm to him

Ack he'll be reading this and get a big head lol. Eh bigger head than usual

Just shows you the level of caring though eh, all these supposed randoms on a drug board worried about your use...Not surprised one bit tbh


So how are you Breakcorefiend?

 

[Albion]

Completely agree, but.. When someone is in a difficult situation giving advice is one thing, you can take it or leave it, but when it becomes almost a witchhunt(prob a bad word) because Sam is continuing with his activities, it does not serve as help, it will make him avoid this place because he feels a pressure, prob just my opinion but I wanna state it

I'm inclined to agree.

Sam knows the score. We all do. The best thing we can do is just stick around EADD and make this an enjoyable and stress-free place to inhabit and post in.

 

[ColtDan]

It aint a witch hunt, just an observation. well from my behalf anyway, other people can witch hunt criticize all they like