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parttime crackhead said:
People in the UK got their houses raided. For personal amounts of RCs.

I hate to go all Ismene, but there's nothing to say the UK police won't start kicking doors in when they get a big list of addresses from the FBI. I'd say the main hope is that the list is so long it becomes unworkable.



So this guy getting arrested and that government takedown notice thing people see when trying to go that site is just a big lie then?
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I think this situation is slightly different, in that case they also had payment details as proof the people involved had actually paid for drugs (cc details, bank transfers or whatever). I also thought that as soon as the stuff was shipped any address information got deleted/encrypted to stop it being accessed again. The second part obviously hinges on whether or not the rumours of the site being run as a clone site by the FBI are true or not.
 
parttime crackhead said:
They do now have the address of every single person who used Silk Road in the past year or so. Fuck knows why people think it's a good idea to start pinging their address about again on a different site that will no doubt eventually get taken down.
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PGP offered a level of encryption, but not many people used it. Still, better than nothing though.
 
Haha gotta admit I never used pgp. If this Ulricht guy made $1.2 billion off it though that's gotta be around 12 billion spent on the site. Can't imagine they're gonna bash everyone's door down, probs just the main vendors
 
parttime crackhead said:
So this guy getting arrested and that government takedown notice thing people see when trying to go that site is just a big lie then?
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Someone has been arrested. Who exactly he is, in terms of his role, is still open to question. There's lots that doesn't quite add up in the story so far. Lots.

But I don't think the site was compromised through technology was it? It's this guy's extraneous actions, supposedly involving a murder where the FBI admit there is no evidence a murder took place, not the SR technical web routes that have got him in trouble.

Right now, I'm glad I never used it. I was about to. A friend had only just found out about it and had gone to town on it in the last few days. He was on it when the FBI sign came up. But I don't think users should be shitting themselves. Operation Ismene went after about 20 people I think, 50 at the most (in the UK). We are talking potentially millions of transactions from thousands of users on the SR in the UK alone.

They will go for the dealers.
 
Yeah, try paying that bitch off in Bitcoins and see how far you get. :D

Apparently Ross can't afford a lawyer. :(
 
Indeed SHM! Curtain twitching time!

I know I'm late to this party but I have to give a little word for spiders. A fear of spiders in British people is entirely irrational, no one has ever died from a spider bite in this country, and whilst news reports of an apparent increase in the population of one of our very few poisonous varieties are true, not even those fuckers can kill.

Fuck Arachnophobia and Fuck Jaws for that matter too. Humans need monsters for some reason, and spiders are a very good scapegoat. I used to be terrified of them, realised this was dumb, and now pick them up and release them to live another day. What has a spider ever done to you? (in this country)
 
To buy pins or not to buy pins?

Resisted the temptation last night, but it'd be sooooo good to have a proper hit again.

Spiders won't even have anything to do with me. They take one look and fuck right off.
 
Working from home. Really can't be arsed with today.

parttime crackhead said:
They do now have the address of every single person who used Silk Road in the past year or so. Fuck knows why people think it's a good idea to start pinging their address about again on a different site that will no doubt eventually get taken down.
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Pretty sure that people used SR because they trusted the security. Whether that's true for any other site, I dunno. Also, they don't have the address of every user unless they've cracked whatever encryption people used for pgp, (which they may have done).

parttime crackhead said:
I hate to go all Ismene, but there's nothing to say the UK police won't start kicking doors in when they get a big list of addresses from the FBI. I'd say the main hope is that the list is so long it becomes unworkable.
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If they use my taxpayer's money for that, I'll be fucking livid. That would be such a waste of police resources.

backroll said:
I know I'm late to this party but I have to give a little word for spiders.
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Agreed, spiders are great. And other beasties too.
 
parttime crackhead said:
They do now have the address of every single person who used Silk Road in the past year or so.
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No, they don't. They captured over a million messages sent over SR's built-in messaging system. But that doesn't automatically give them the address of every SR user account.

Tangerine Dream said:
PGP offered a level of encryption.
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And that's^^^ why. For all we know, PGP/GPG with a reasonable key length is unhackable even for the NSA.

swampdragon said:
Pretty sure that people used SR because they trusted the security.
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Or because they trusted and trust GPG.

Bottom line: if you didn't use GPG, they most likely got your address. If you only communicated via GPG, they cannot infer your address from your SR communication.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
Someone has been arrested. Who exactly he is, in terms of his role, is still open to question. There's lots that doesn't quite add up in the story so far. Lots.

But I don't think the site was compromised through technology was it? It's this guy's extraneous actions, supposedly involving a murder where the FBI admit there is no evidence a murder took place, not the SR technical web routes that have got him in trouble.

Right now, I'm glad I never used it. I was about to. A friend had only just found out about it and had gone to town on it in the last few days. He was on it when the FBI sign came up. But I don't think users should be shitting themselves. Operation Ismene went after about 20 people I think, 50 at the most (in the UK). We are talking potentially millions of transactions from thousands of users on the SR in the UK alone.

They will go for the dealers.
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Like you i never used it either got close a few times but the lure of getting my Heroin in 20 minutes rather than waiting 3/4 days always seemed to put me off .
Sammy G said:
To buy pins or not to buy pins?

Resisted the temptation last night, but it'd be sooooo good to have a proper hit again.

Spiders won't even have anything to do with me. They take one look and fuck right off.
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If the tak is good as you say then don't bother cos you know as well as i do that you can't buy a single pin these days ...........

I would be getting the pins if i had any workable veins but i haven't & my gear is strong enough to gouch off smoking it
 
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