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4MAR, finaly tried it

omt

omt

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Extremely clean high. Like flake minus ego lasts AGES plus bit like meth with some of warmth/positiity of mandy. On day 3 feel pretty fresh.

Would be v popular if people would give it a chance and not buy into mth stigma scaremongering.

If you like flake this is MUCH mor economical and less likely to make you a wanker.

Prang levels quite low for strength. Bit like the mescline of stims. Strong yet chilled. Altho not suggesting as amazing as mescaline.

IMO much better than coke. Prfer good crystal meth maybe but this is almost on par but v diff. Thiink will be easier on way down than meth.

Not miles above all other stims but deseres legendary rep. Can see how for some the don of stimulants for sure.
 
Sammy G said:
What if you don't particularly need any chemical assistance in that department?
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LOL.

omt: how is the stuff for music enhancement, and i know you meant 'less likely to turn you into a wanker' in behavioural terms like having a massive ego explosion, but how is it literally in that department, i mean does it make you as horny as mephedrone, or does it have no effect on sexual desire ?

I think its for the best that i dont know where to get this stuff from. If it is as great as legend would have it I'd probably have a problem controlling my usage of it.
 
4mar...came across this in Manchester in 2007...OMT, your description is pretty spot on.
So fresh, so clean, just like a dream...I was grabbing strangers in the pub and making them have a grain...only problem was your head came down before your heart very often...and yes it lasted FUCKING AGES, on such small doses! A really really lovely combo of euphoria and chattiness (without the ego bullshit), I don't remember gurning much either. Sex was aight as well =D

The closest thing to quality crystal meth I have ever come across in this country. Despite being a professional DJ at the time, music never really appealed mdb :\ I just wanted to get inside people's heads, I wanted to know their life stories and share my thoughts! EMPATHY <3
 
4-MAR is one of those on my to do list for certain.

Be careful however, be EXTREMELY careful. I have spoken to others who have used 4-MAR, and one knowledgeable character in particular, intelligent guy, creative, and knows better than to be careless (I hope :P)

His report made it crystal clear (pun intended) that the dose-response curve with 4-MAR is very steep, and it can apparently go along fine until a seizure is triggered after that redose too many. Also it has an absolutely insane tendency to cause pulmonary hypertension which can quite easily prove fatal.



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3928246 This one relates to aminorex rather than 4-MAR but 4-MAR is very widely known to have this characteristic also. I would only do the stuff sparingly, seldom and never, ever binge on it.

I'd reccomend taking some clonidine with it, if your going to use 4-MAR in an effort to lower pulmonary blood pressure. Just avoid beta blockers as taking these with stimulants can result in unopposed alpha-adrenoreceptor agonism and thus result in paradoxical hypertension.

I'd love to try it at least once, but just be fucking careful with it.
 
Someone needs to put up some caution threads, disaster waiting to happen
 
Limpet_Chicken said:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3928246 This one relates to aminorex rather than 4-MAR but 4-MAR is very widely known to have this characteristic also. I would only do the stuff sparingly, seldom and never, ever binge on it.

I'd reccomend taking some clonidine with it, if your going to use 4-MAR in an effort to lower pulmonary blood pressure. Just avoid beta blockers as taking these with stimulants can result in unopposed alpha-adrenoreceptor agonism and thus result in paradoxical hypertension.

I'd love to try it at least once, but just be fucking careful with it.
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Yeah the extremely dodgy cardio action is the reason why I avoided this fella so far. I have a very hard time with NOT redosing on any type of stimulant. Not going to take clonidine with it, either.
 
lurching said:
Yeah the extremely dodgy cardio action is the reason why I avoided this fella so far. I have a very hard time with NOT redosing on any type of stimulant. Not going to take clonidine with it, either.
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MDPV was giving me palpitations by the end, thats one of the reasons I stopped taking it. Is this stuff even worse than PV in that departement ?
 
mydrugbuddy said:
MDPV was giving me palpitations by the end, thats one of the reasons I stopped taking it. Is this stuff even worse than PV in that departement ?
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Check Limpet's link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3928246

With therapeutic use as appetite-depressant an "epidemic" of pulmonary hypertension followed:

10 years after the epidemic, half of the patients have died, usually of right heart failure.

Of those surviving, half present a definite regression of the pulmonary vascular obstruction.

Average survival after the initial diagnosis was 3.5 years in those patients who died.
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There isn't much data on MDPV (yet), but it wouldn't surprise me if long-term cardio problems will start to pop up in some of the more hardcore users of MDPV or other 'RC' stimulants. Who knows how the fallout will compare to 4-MAR.
 
Told you i would get some, it's even got the slang name on it.

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