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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards

Would Gabapentin work as a comedown aid for someone with no tolerance to the drug?

Well... i heard a lot of people claim ativan (lorazepam) in higher doses makes them hallucinate etc. I never experienced this at all from real high doses with no tolerance. I guess everyones brain chemistry is different. Is their a difference between typical lunesta and eszopiclone or the zopiclone that you are taking?
 
Chemically, no. Eszopiclone only contains the active isomer. They are essentially the same thing.
 
Wow what an odd experience, wish i could try it but maybe it wouldn't for me (the hallucigenic aspect). Sounds kinda like hallucinations from mild acid or shrooms moreso acid by the way you described them.
 
Intenselife said:
Wow what an odd experience, wish i could try it but maybe it wouldn't for me (the hallucigenic aspect). Sounds kinda like hallucinations from mild acid or shrooms moreso acid by the way you described them.
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Yeah, it's interesting, that's for sure. I now have a new rule: DO NOT TAKE ZOPICLONE AND DEXTROAMPHETAMINE WITHIN 24 HOURS OF EACH OTHER.
It seems to be calming down a little bit but then it'll just go back in full force. I've started to just go with it though, no problem in getting this mad over something I could have never seen coming.
 
Lol back to the subject, so when are you going to take the gabapentin are you coming down at all, or did you not even get the script filled yet?
 
Intenselife said:
Lol back to the subject, so when are you going to take the gabapentin are you coming down at all, or did you not even get the script filled yet?
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I have the script but the effects are still going strong. Dexedrine seems to last a ridiculously long time when I take it, usually 6-12 hours, then I come down.
I do admit I am looking forward to it though. Very curious to see how well it works.
 
Hmmm that makes me more tempted to switch my adderall to dexedrine or attempt to if it lasts that long. I find the adderall XR's to be garbage for recreational use plus all that hassle of emptying a capsule crushing up the beads etc etc. The adderall IR's (more recreationally used) high/effects last no longer than 4 hours MAXIMUM if your lucky before you start feeling like shit (unless you counteract it like i do).

Usually after like 3 hours any of the fun or positive feelings tend to go away, even for people taking for adhd without abusing it complain it wears off way to god damn fast, and that's why many switch to the XR of adderall which at higher doses can be used recreationally WITHOUT breaking the time release and the whole crushing beads hassle etc, but is good for some focus and motivation not too much euphoria.

But i'll give thanks to the lord for even having an adderall script which i know many doctors/psychiatrists refuse to prescribe these days, and a thanks to myself to take them when i really need to rather than even taking them as prescribed since that would make me addicted to them and lose the positive effects and increase the negative aspects.

Yeah i'm curious to see how the gabapentin will affect you as well. You must let me know if you get any numbing sensation (its a good feeling) when you do take them, like i did the first time i took them.
 
I will message you right away with updates (I sent you a PM earlier today, not sure if you got it or not).

I've abused Adderall before and it was terrible. The thing that I find so odd is that Dexedrine and Adderall are almost the same thing and that confused me really bad at first. In the end I came to the conclusion that I dislike Levoamphetamine with a burning passion.

So, you recommend 1,000mg? Odd of me asking, I generally know the dosage for most drugs. I just never got around to taking Gabapentin until someone on BL reminded me I had a script in the Pharmanet system (I'm Canadian in case you don't know what Pharmanet is). I am worried 1,000mg wont be enough but at the same time I want to avoid any possible negative side effects.
 
Yeah i would recommend just a 1000mg JUST incase their might be a negative effect someway. Lol ill check my messages now, but yeah adderall is mostly dextroamphetamine but the 25% levoamphetamine does make it a bit different.

I wonder if that desoxyn medication is still around or discontinued since it was pure pharmaceutical meth, i don't really hear of anyone being prescribed that these days so it's probably discontinued off the market OR is just very rarely prescribed due to the obvious fact its methamphetamine.
 
Intenselife said:
Yeah i would recommend just a 1000mg JUST incase their might be a negative effect someway. Lol ill check my messages now, but yeah adderall is mostly dextroamphetamine but the 25% levoamphetamine does make it a bit different.

I wonder if that desoxyn medication is still around or discontinued since it was pure pharmaceutical meth, i don't really hear of anyone being prescribed that these days so it's probably discontinued off the market OR is just very rarely prescribed due to the obvious fact its methamphetamine.
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Desoxyn still exists, it's just that most doctors are scared shitless to prescribe it so it is very rarely seen.
And yeah, that 25% makes a massive difference. It turns it into a panic attack roller coaster with constant thoughts about having a heart attack. Not fun, hate Adderall... I do love Dextroamphetamine though, very very smooth compared to Adderall.
 
Woops i wrote back to your message and posted it on here, but the moderator said to keep in private message so i'll PM you.
 
WorldWarMe said:
I'm not sure if you're an amphetamine user but if you are, how do you force yourself to eat? I just can not do it. I cant even get a piece of bread down. I tried eating an apple once and it literally tore the roof of my mouth into pieces, it was ridiculously painful.
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Go for things like fruit, yoghurts, Ice cream basically anything that is not dry and needs chewing loads.
 
Just an update: I took 1,200mg Gabapentin and all it did was put me to sleep. I woke up feeling worse than I ever have, my blood pressure is a thousand times higher than it's ever been and I feel like what I imagine a meth comedown feels like. I am never taking Dextroamphetamine again without benzodiazepines on hand. Lucky for me I have 1,000mg Alprazolam coming on Wednesday. I'm going to take some Kratom right now to hopefully bring myself down. At least the hallucinations are gone...
 
^none, but that is my oppinion and there are several people here that won't agree with me. I guess people mostly use it in combination with other drugs, amphetamine+gabapentin was a really nice combo if I remember correctly. Alone it's rather dull.
 
oh desoxyn, how i love you so!


anyways, gabapentin is frustrating because of its extremely shitty oral BA. after about 400mgs taken in a single dosage, the BA drops off very steeply. if you are going to take gabapentin the only way to take it IME is to stack up doses by doing 400mgs every 30-45mins until you are satisfied. i dont know any other drug that builds up so much tolerance after one usage. with lyrica and gabapentin, i can only take them like once a week if i want recreational effects; i love the recreational aspect to these drugs too
 
WorldWarMe said:
Desoxyn still exists, it's just that most doctors are scared shitless to prescribe it so it is very rarely seen.
And yeah, that 25% makes a massive difference. It turns it into a panic attack roller coaster with constant thoughts about having a heart attack. Not fun, hate Adderall... I do love Dextroamphetamine though, very very smooth compared to Adderall.
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I had a Desoxyn script. It kinda sucked. I much prefer Dex or Adderall. The thing is Desoxyn is NOT very pure. It only comes in 5mg tablets and separating the meth from the binders and fillers is really, really tricky. I used to inject 250-500mg of crystal meth at a time. Try getting that much out of Desoxyn tablets!

I was prescribed 30mg of Desoxyn a day in three divided doses and it did nothing for me. It is too subtle and therapeutic doses.
 
Hey he never said he did DESOXYN, it was dexedrine jesus christ get it right. He was comparing it to a meth comedown, i have had adderall comedowns that were almost as bad meth comedowns just not nearly as long as meth comedowns which can last upto a few days of pure hell.
 
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