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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy DXM Thread - Part 2 - Robojesus, forgive us our sins

for your very first time you don't want to do more than 100mg. 5% of the population has an enzyme deficiency that causes dxm to react way more strongly in them.
 
He's still set on 300 mg he has a pile of pink powder and doesn't know how to measure the amount of dxm that's in it. Not sure what I can or can't ask about on this forum but he had 16 CCc tablets totaling 480 mg he didn't want to pop all 16 in their pill forms because of the chlorpromazine malate in them. He read that if he performed a cold water extraction the cpm would dissolve in the water and the dxm could be strained out, he did so and was left with pink sludge that dried into a powder. He heard that some dxm gets dissolved into the water and he assumes there's at least 300 mg of dxm left but is unsure. What should he do? Does the cold water extraction really get the cpm out?
 
Yea it seems sketchy.. but at the same time the water extracton sounds legit but idk it would just be wiser and safer to go get the robo gel caps at the store, he was was kind of like hey I just found out I can trip from these pills and I think I filtered out most of the bad shit hahaha i told him it seemed sketchy so i found this forum to get some feedback. thanks for the quick responses though
 
there's definitely gonna be people that tried larger doses for their first time and it turned out okay. you're lucky that you aren't one of the 1in20 people that are a poor metabolizer though. those 42 robogels would've hit you like they were 200 robogels.

1 in 20 is common enough that its not worth the risk going above 100mg for your first time. four hours after that first 100mg dose you can take more, once you see how the 100mg hits you, so its not even like you're really wasting all that much time doing it...
 
thenightwatch said:
there's definitely gonna be people that tried larger doses for their first time and it turned out okay. you're lucky that you aren't one of the 1in20 people that are a poor metabolizer though. those 42 robogels would've hit you like they were 200 robogels.

1 in 20 is common enough that its not worth the risk going above 100mg for your first time. four hours after that first 100mg dose you can take more, once you see how the 100mg hits you, so its not even like you're really wasting all that much time doing it...
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Hearing this I feel pretty dumb now for taking 20 gels for my first time, but I suppose nothing too bad could have happened. I'm very new to this drug and all drugs, so I wasn't sure what to expect even after scanning this forum and spending hours on Erowid. All in all though, I found it quite an enjoyable experience. I think because of my low body weight even around 300mg sent me to the upper second plateau, and I was feeling somewhat dissociated from myself. I've done the same amount two times more since then and both times were rather similar to the first, except the last time I felt compelled to walk around and do a bit more. I found it really fun to interact with the world around me at this level :D

I'm not quite sure if it's normal to experience Lilliputian delusions at this level.. but I sure did. Not to the extremes that I have heard some people describe, such as shrinking down to the size of an atom or anything, but instead I felt my body simultaneously become larger and yet closer to the ground. As I rotated my hands in front of my face they seemed to be highly magnified, like I could see much more detail than I normally could. Have other people experienced the same thing at this level?
 
I've been reading the first big & dandy the past couple days when I have time and I'm just over halfway through. I was trying to see if anybody had mentioned blocking Olney's lesions which I find interesting, though based on the fact that DXM causes mental decline in only some people I'm inclined to believe that it's caused by "complex partial seizures" (I think I read that was a possibility in the dxm faq but I'm not certain). Anyway I saw on Wikipedia that it can be blocked by anticholinergics, GABAa agonists, 5ht psychs, benzos and alpha2 adrenergics... does anybody have experience with this? I'm thinking of using kava for GABAergic neuroprotetion from the lesions just as a hopeful precaution.

It's been a while since I've done DXM, over a year now. I just got 2700mg in gelcaps in the mail and I've been thinking about how to experiment with it. The highest doses I've trashed before were 600mg in gels and around 1.2 in polistirex (separate doses, both low third plateau as I weighed around 110lb but had a tolerance). So here's kind of a list of what I'm planning on trying.

Weight 135lb

900mg + grapefruit juice - this is right on the border of a 4th plateau so I'd expect some full dissociation in meditation and hopefully strong CEVs and possible ego loss. I think I might lack the enzyme that converts dxo and dxm to inactives since I usually have a long ass afterglow, 3 days before I felt normal after the 600mg so I doubt the gfj will do anything but I'm gonna try anyway. I'll also throw some DMAE and/or kava into the mix, dmae for recall and lucidity improvement and kava to mellow it and possible neuroprotectice.

I also heard that dph can increase the CEVs but I fear that even 25-50mg could make me fall asleep especially since I'll be tripping at night, eyes shut and listening music. I thought caffeine could keep me awake but also could counteract the dph and cause some cardiovascular strain.

100-300mg + DMAA + caffeine - dmaa and caffeine are a decent stimulant to me in combination but I'm thinking a low dose of dxm would kick it up and be more like partway between a cup of coffee and a real drug.

15-60mg daily - I haven't heard much about it, but some anecdotal reports and since studies on ketamine might suggest that microdosing dxm daily could help depression and anxiety, and improve creativity and give vivid dreams. For some reason I think it'd work well on me and I just feel really compelled to try.

I won't be taking my first dose until Friday so I'll read more of the first big and dandy and maybe finish that and this one and see if anybody has comments on my plans, and then I'll come back with a trip report or something.
 
Olney's lesions likely don't occur in humans (according to some research that was done after Willaim White wrote his DXM FAQ)

caffeine and DXM don't mix well in my experience. 25-50mg of DPH should be fine with a third plateau dose.... the DXM should keep you awake.
 
I've tried dxm three times, all alone. It was kind of enjoyable. I think dxm is more of a "do it with friends" kind of drug. When I'm alone on dxm I just feel alienated, and stupid. Stumbling around and lost in my mind.with friends it would be funny to be like that. But alone its like.. why did I do this to myself? Haha I think the most enjoyable thing to do when taking dxm alone is to lay down and meditate. It feels nice. That's just my opinion though
 
I'm on 8mg buprenorphine (subutex) a day for about 2 months now and wana try this drug again. I haven't done dxm in about 2 years. Will I be safe to dose about only 100mg of delsym? It is the dxm polystrex kind I dont really mind it. It's the only dxm closest to pure in my medicine cabinet anyways lol.
 
as far as i know, that should be a safe combination. however, buprenorphine is broken down by the same liver enzymes that break down DXM.... producing the same effect as combining DXM with grapefruit. so you are right in starting with a low dose of DXM. 100mg should be sufficiently low.... could maybe even go as high as 150mg. you might discover that those doses are even too low, but from a safety standpoint don't start any higher than that for your first time with the combo.
 
Do you guys consider DXM as good dissociative than ketamine and MXE? I only have one experience with DXM 600mg and it wasn't too deep. Should I dose higher? I like MXE much more. Why do u guys use DXM, is it because lack of ket/mxe or do you just really like it? I'm surprised that DXM is that popular honestly. Is it because it is so easy to get and extract from cough syrups?
 
Well, now that I have access to MXE, I do less DXM than I would otherwise. DXM still has a place in my heart, but if I had to pick one and only one dissociative for the rest of my days it would be MXE.
Still want to try 600mg DXM and .150mg Al-Lad, used to love it with acid back in the day.
Easy to get is what drew me to it in the first place though, that's for sure.
 
having tried DXM, MXE, Ketamine, 4-MeO-PCP, and 3-MeO-PCP, i do still enjoy DXM. DXM is indeed a bit dirtier feeling than the other ones, but it also seems to do a lot more than the other ones. i think because DXM is more of a receptor whore.... it hits a lot more than just the NMDA receptor. the other ones are more of a well-target silver bullet, but DXM is more of a brick that smacks you upside the head. to each their own, every once in awhile i do like to have a brick smacked upside my head. i definitely see how other people might not enjoy it as much, though..... and if DXM wasn't the first one of the bunch i tried, then IDK if i would still enjoy it as much.

could definitely just be nostalgia factor, or the fact that i started using DXM before i had a dissociative tolerance. those high dose holes i get with DXM though.... incomparable to the holes i've gotten on the other ones. such wonky mindfuck.
 
thenightwatch said:
i think because DXM is more of a receptor whore.... it hits a lot more than just the NMDA receptor. the other ones are more of a well-target silver bullet, but DXM is more of a brick that smacks you upside the head. to each their own, every once in awhile i do like to have a brick smacked upside my head.

could definitely just be nostalgia factor, or the fact that i started using DXM before i had a dissociative tolerance. those high dose holes i get with DXM though.... incomparable to the holes i've gotten on the other ones. such wonky mindfuck.
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Beautifully said :D

DXM is just so unique. I find it's effects somewhat visionary. DXM has taken me to some beautiful places and I hold it in the highest regard for some of the experiences it has given me.
 
Sublime947 said:
I'm on 8mg buprenorphine (subutex) a day for about 2 months now and wana try this drug again. I haven't done dxm in about 2 years. Will I be safe to dose about only 100mg of delsym? It is the dxm polystrex kind I dont really mind it. It's the only dxm closest to pure in my medicine cabinet anyways lol.
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Yeah bupe + dxm made quitting heroin a lot easier for me, makes the bupe almost feel like a full agonist opioid. I never had any trouble with the combo but they do potientate each other.
 
I recently got back into DXM.
I was tripping using coricidin (don't/didn't/won't care about warnings against doing so, yes I know I am going to die a horrible death from CPM), but I want to try a pure dxm product.

edit (forgot to add); today I picked up some robitussin gel caps
I am just wondering, is there any type of time-release on these? Many people have said they take much longer to take effect.
and, do these cause any real nausea? Taking dxm in coricidin doesn't cause any significant nausea. I tried a dxm-only syrup (chugged) once and it made me extremely sick, and ruined the entire trip.
 
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best bet for DXM-only stuff IMO are the Robitussin gel caps. not quite as much of a bang for your dollar, but its way more pleasant than chugging cool cherry death syrup.
 
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