Study shows magic mushrooms repair brain damage caused by extreme trauma

[laugh]

the university of south Florida

 

[Zalo]

Oh my, that's rather exciting news. I wonder if other psychedelics like LSD have similar effects, and if psilocybin is more effective than MDMA in treating PTSD. Thank you for sharing that.

 

[Yeetbeat]

Article doesn't actually directly link or list sources....kinda just says "here's where they are - now you find them"...not to particularly discredit or anything, but it could be complete bullshit and we wouldn't know if we just take the article for truth.

Anyone any good at actually digging up their sources? I'm useless lol

 

[RobotRipping]

you can find the original studies if you look for them - it's not complete bullshit and no one should take a media article at face value.

I can dig up the sources when i'm not so fucked up until then hopefully someone else can lol try google scholar and pub med and search the Dr's names on google as well.

It's always important to be critical of the source and the study itself too, even if it says something that we want to hear.

 

[webbykevin]

http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/newsandeventspggrp/imperialcollege/newssummary/news_24-1-2012-10-39-58

 

[Yeetbeat]

Awesome, cheers I'm exceptionally critical of things like this when they're in our favour so to speak

 

[sekio]

OMG... this article is BURIED!

1. Truthisscary.com is a quote of
2. Conciouslifenews which cites
3. NaturalNews which cites (I'm not going to dignify these 3 with a link)
4. DigitalJournal
which cites the article....
5. Effects of psilocybin on hippocampal neurogenesis and extinction of trace fear conditioning.
Catlow BJ, Song S, Paredes DA, Kirstein CL, Sanchez-Ramos J. Lieber Institute for Brain Development, Baltimore, MD, USA.
Exp Brain Res. 2013 Aug;228(4):481-91. doi: 10.1007/s00221-013-3579-0. Epub 2013 Jun 2.



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23727882

 

[The Happy Wanderer]

OMG... this article is BURIED!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23727882

For are non-native speaker: What does this mean? Sources are not legit?

 

[Reverend Random]

Nice diggin', sekio. Had stumbled upon this article a month or so ago already.

To Happy Wanderer: what sekio meant is that it was referenced to very indirectly and so pretty hard to find the original source. Which is not cool.

 

[Mitchi]

I think he means that it goes from 1-5. So number 5 (original) is buried under the others

This site http://www.psychedelicpsychotherapy.com/ has more on trauma and psychedelics (from underground psychotherapists)

 

[psood0nym]

A game of internet science news telephone was played with this study. It went from (my wording) "Mice fed low-dose 4-po-DMT recover more quickly from fear of electrical shock," to (truthisscary.com's wording): "Study shows magic mushrooms repair brain damage caused by extreme trauma." I like positive stories about psychedelics, but this is almost pro-drug propagandizing in the service of the websites' "everything you think you know is wrong" agenda. "The truth is scary" ... yes especially when you embellish it to set off the hyper-tuned conspiracy detectors of fans of the paranormal.

And then of course we don't know if the mice even received a high enough dose to know if the findings could be relevant to human PTSD treatment:

Dr. Sanchez-Ramos acknowledged that there was no way of knowing whether the mice in the experiment experienced altered states of consciousness or hallucinations – commonly experienced with magic mushrooms, but he believed the doses were too low to cause psychoactive effects

 

[The Happy Wanderer]

Thanks guys. Makes totally sense now. In fact, means the same in German, guess I've been a bit slow on the uptake lately.

 

[exists]

I like positive stories about psychedelics, but this is almost pro-drug propagandizing in the service of the websites' "everything you think you know is wrong" agenda. "The truth is scary" ... yes especially when you embellish it to set off the hyper-tuned conspiracy detectors of fans of the paranormal.

The truth about anything should always be reported with complete objectivity. The "polar opposites" of DailyFail and ConspiracyToday or some shit work primarily to obscure the truth and appeal to thoughtless emotional involvement on any given issue. Sometimes I think the same people are behind both.

Just give us the news straight-up, without interpretation or embellishment!

 

[atara]

For are non-native speaker: What does this mean? Sources are not legit?

He means there is a giant game of "telephone", where USF publishes one thing, Digital Journal repeats what they heard from USF, Natural News repeats what they heard from Digital Media, and so on. This tends to lead to distortion of the actual story and difficulty in verifying the substantive claims in a piece of news.

 

[Yeetbeat]

Glad I whinged about the lack sources now hahaha

 

[amanitadine]

Natural news is up there with infowars in terms of trash.....shame. But nice find.