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EADD Benzo Discussion v.5

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i may be able to get some diaz soon. Ive been wanting to try it for ages. (Even if it is supposedly 7 times less effective for anxiety than etizolam).

Whatver the case Im sure I'll be more functional on Diaz than on Phenazz. It may turn out that i end up trying loads of different ones, only to eventually discover that my first true love; etizolam, was the best.

Very strange things going on with the non availabilty of etiz within the UK. A EU order is gonna have to be placed. I'll see if i can get a diaz script first though, and hope the EU sellers dont run out of stock in the meantime.
 
according to wiki "Etizolam has an anxiolytic action about 6 times greater than that of diazepam."

my mistake 6 times, not 7. Still a big fuckin difference though.

If you look at the source for that in the Etizolam wiki, you'll get an Italian page that states:

In the context of pharmacological tests, the etizolam has been shown to possess a potent anxiolytic action (approximately 6 times higher than that of diazepam).

..without any further details on these "tests" or any other kind of data at all.

...

Then again, how do you determine your black market etizolam's purity?
 
anxiolytic dose of etizolam: up to 3mg a day
anxiolytic dose of diazepam: up to 20mg a day

3 * 6.5 = almost 20

Where am I going wrong?
 
anxiolytic dose of etizolam: up to 3mg a day
anxiolytic dose of diazepam: up to 20mg a day

3 * 6.5 = almost 20

Where am I going wrong?

you arent as far as i can see ? :?

Different question:

Out of all the mak manufactireres and fakers of diazepam pills. which brands currently for sale on the black marlet would people say are the most lilley to be kosher ?

Im not going yo hold it gainst anyone if ity goes wrog, but jusut in terms of likleyhood, which of the current brands for sale are most likley to be the genuine product ?

As it is ive j=ust had a trwal through some Plush Avenues and gone for some of the places with the best feedback. Seems about the best/only way of judging what you might get.

Ive set a phenazepam dadline for myself, so i wont be takingt nay more as of tomorrow.That means 2 big binges this afternoon. I think I'd better discobbect blelight first lol. Got all sorts of college open days and stuff coming up in a couple of weeks and want to seem as bright eyed and bushy tailed as possible for them.

Also gor the problem of my bupe taper finishing around that time. So im not sure what to do about that, either extend the bupe run a bit further, or cut it shorter and hopefully recover quicker. :?
 
I just necked 2ooml of methadone and another 3o of valium, I going with the fuck it after pissing me on with a slight 12 step intervention in work, I am going my self to right to next another 30mg of valium. I will deal wit the consequences of the sample if and when it come. The opiates the 2 2oe bags I have likes night will not show by the, so I will go with the negative impact the attempt to 12 step me have no my psychical reality.

When it come to this type of talk and research I can hold my own in work, as I am a profession who working in a medical setting, though not a medical, but an mental health profession who is full qualified and accredited

Apologies if I sound disjointed and I'm not blowing my own horn ,but I am one of the most qualified professional in my area. But the is always a consulted psych who thinks
he know much more. I hope that doesn't sound bighead as it is not meat to sound that way.

Anyway apologies if it sound offside but I'm just in a bad space since that last meeting in work
 
I want some samples lol. They stopped giving samps here 12 years ago. Used to get pocket pulls of samples every time at the dr.
 
Is Xanax worth a bash? never tried em before. not too keen on proper knockout benzos, etiz conks me out quite fast compared to vallies. but i love the dreamy bliss. i dunno much about them
 
^Oh also Dan, to add to what I said in gibberings, xanax got me through most of heroin PAWS...and I really can't compliment it much more than that =D
(no but seriously, I had a massive xanax addiction a year and a half/two years ago so I do feel the need to point out that it's really easy to get hooked on it. I know you have a ton of benzo experience but be careful etc :))
 
Cheers for the warning my lovey, will be sensible x

i bet overcomming that addiction was a nightmare, after the horror stories ive read from benzos trying to get off them sounds horrific
 
How long were you taking xan and how much per day if you dont mind me asking? I started on low dose . 5 xan for 5-6 years and soon as I got off opiates my benzo consumsion went up alot. At the worst I was 8mg per day of clons. Basically 9 years on benzos. Now down to 3mg and can't imagine going lower. This taper is harder snd longer (thats what she said) than anything I ever been on. Trying to make 2mg before I move but its hard.

To the poster asking about xans for fun. If you have good control they can be fun. Unfortunately things can happrn and then you turn to the xans because they are comforting and addictive. When your tolerance goes up your level of being screwd does also. The longer you take them the harder to get off. Opiate wds are way easier to deal with IMO. If you want to try just understand things can happen even if you strong and not an abuser of drugs. I used to be very strong and active and now crippled and tapering. It happens fast sometimes.
 
Cheers for the warning my lovey, will be sensible x

i bet overcomming that addiction was a nightmare, after the horror stories ive read from benzos trying to get off them sounds horrific

Good good <3
And yeah it really was a fucking nightmare - uncontrollable panic attacks every two hours and I did have a couple seizures, although I only have myself to blame for that cuz I (very stupidly) quit CT. Mostly the fact that the physical WDs lasted for months though. All over now thank god!

How long were you taking xan and how much per day if you dont mind me asking? I started on low dose . 5 xan for 5-6 years and soon as I got off opiates my benzo consumsion went up alot. At the worst I was 8mg per day of clons. Basically 9 years on benzos. Now down to 3mg and can't imagine going lower. This taper is harder snd longer (thats what she said) than anything I ever been on. Trying to make 2mg before I move but its hard.

To the poster asking about xans for fun. If you have good control they can be fun. Unfortunately things can happrn and then you turn to the xans because they are comforting and addictive. When your tolerance goes up your level of being screwd does also. The longer you take them the harder to get off. Opiate wds are way easier to deal with IMO. If you want to try just understand things can happen even if you strong and not an abuser of drugs. I used to be very strong and active and now crippled and tapering. It happens fast sometimes.

Ermm let's see, in total I was on xanax for about a year I think..? Maybe a bit less, but I was on tetrazepam for quite a while before that. In the end it went up to 12-13mg a day on the last few months, until I had the brilliant idea of quitting cold turkey that is :\
Stay strong with your taper! I know it feels like it never ends (and to be fair it really does take a fucking long time), but trust me a taper is the most worthwhile thing you'll ever do regarding benzos. If you have any questions about specific WD symptoms I'd be happy to suggest any helpful tips I can think of. Good luck <3
 
Good good <3
And yeah it really was a fucking nightmare - uncontrollable panic attacks every two hours and I did have a couple seizures, although I only have myself to blame for that cuz I (very stupidly) quit CT. Mostly the fact that the physical WDs lasted for months though. All over now thank god!

So nasty, now its all over have you fully recovered or does it leave a mark?
 
So nasty, now its all over have you fully recovered or does it leave a mark?

Yeah I've fully recovered :) I had regular random brain zaps until a few months ago though but those seem to have left as well. I've heard of people who've been on huge doses for years never really making a full recovery though, can't imagine...
 
Brain zaps are so annoying, yeah ive heard about that, seriously bad way to end up, complete life wrecked, they need to find new drugs to combat anxiety without benzos

and glad you've recovered, coulda ended up so much worse
 
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