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Opioids Turkish dried pods Vs English grown pods advice please!

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atv

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Hi,

This is in the interest of harm reduction so I hope that I'm not breaking any rules and someone can help me.
I used to use dried turkish pods anywhere from 25-45g for a decent tea.
I've come across 12 fresh english pods that I'm pretty positive are papaver somniferums. So I've been told by two people and my instinct tells me they are as they look the deal, no hair on stems (minimal hair on a couple) spherical heads and they look ripe. Ome is particularly more greyish than the rest but all the crowns point upward or outward. A few are about 3-4cm diameter and some only about 1cm.

I know its a guessing game but reckon there's enough for a brew. I tried slicing straight after cutting, latex did ooze out but in the end yield was poor. And nothing came out of the greyish one at all! So I'm just gonna make a tea out of them.
Its been quite hot here the last few weeks but the couple of days prior to harvest was raining a lot. Would this matter?

Just wanna know how does strength compare, anyone had decent results out of english picked poppies?
Also whats up with the greyish one, is it ok? And also is there any harmful poppies that look identical to pap soms but are toxic?
Wanna make sure I do this right, never tried fresh english pods.

Cheers!
 
atv said:
Just wanna know how does strength compare, anyone had decent results out of english picked poppies?
Also whats up with the greyish one, is it ok? And also is there any harmful poppies that look identical to pap soms but are toxic?
Wanna make sure I do this right, never tried fresh english pods.

Cheers!
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Help please!
 
Main difference, between any dried pd or any still fresh pod ( it dosent mind if the pod was grown on England of where) is that: you must dry the pod before making the tea.

Just wanna know how does strength compare, anyone had decent results out of english picked poppies?
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There are many different PS , with many different morphine %. We should know, from which seeds that pods came from. The country where it was grown, if not papaver somniferum original from this country, dosent inform about. We should know the kind of papaver somn. seed it were

so, if you are sure its PS, dry it and taste it. It can be stronger or softer..as any marihuana you smoke without knowing the "race", hard to tell how many % THC it has, without knowing the race.


PS: did someone xtracted the opium before giving you that pods? if so, the %alkaloids remaining should be very little
 
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BupeMan14 said:
Good lookin pods you got there, atv. Where did you get the seeds from? Online?
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Just growing wild mate a bunch of them. Lucky find at the right time.
Yeah they do look nice.

Pods don't have to be dried to make tea mate you can use them fresh, why wouldn't you be able to? Doesn't make sense.
 
El Barto said:
PS: did someone xtracted the opium before giving you that pods? if so, the %alkaloids remaining should be very little
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Nope,
I tried, and it was leaking, but i didn't collect much, like a matchstick heads worth, as i did it after they were picked. So think the rest went back inside. There's alkaloids locked up in the whole pod, even the stems. I've started preparing the tea, still curious why dried mate?? That way you would surely lose a little bit! Don't get it mate...
 
well, for making a decent tea, with a good %extraction, you should crush the pods until its a powder


INFUSIÓN: ¡El mejor método para aprovechar una pequeña cosecha!. Moler varias cabezas de adormidera (vacías previamente de semillas). Echar el polvo resultante en un cazo con agua hirviendo y mezclar rápidamente, no dejando que hierva más de 3-4 segundos. Se apaga y se deja reposar tapado 15 minutos aprox. Colar por un filtro muy fino y endulzar al gusto.Dosis media: 10-15 cabezas según tamaño (2 gr aprox. en polvo).
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--> it just say to make a powder of "dry pods without seeds" ( seeds dosent have morphine! ) , put in boiling water just 3-4 seconds, then out of fire and rest for 15 minutes, and then you got the tea. Medium dose: betwwen 10-15 pods per tea ( it may variate a lot depending on PS race)

http://cnburgos.blogspot.com.es/?zx=2701a5033ab732a3


Just try to do it with fresh pods, and share results ; )
 
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oh, if the opium went inside its because you went too deep with the knife. Thats why a sharp knife is needed ( a cut between 1 mm and 3 mm, more than 3 mm the opium is not going outside but back inside)


The best tea, is made with powder of pods, ( not with the seeds, wich must be leaved before making the powder)

To make a decent powder, it must be dry.

ps: if you want the csientific reason of why to dry it before making the powder...i dont know it. I just know, that if you make today a fresh tea, and in 7 days a dry tea, you will see the (big) difference
 
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El Barto said:
oh, if the opium went inside its because you went too deep with the knife. Thats why a sharp knife is needed ( a cut between 1 mm and 3 mm, more than 3 mm the opium is not going outside but back inside)


The best tea, is made with powder of pods, ( not with the seeds, wich must be leaved before making the powder)

To make a decent powder, it must be dry.
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Ah, i know it must be fine and it is ;)
Split pods, kept seeds, put pods in Hot water and in the blender blitzed to high heaven for a couple of minutes now they are not recognisable as pods, more like a green soup! Where its been sitting for a couple of hours, and ive just put back on a low heat.

So I've got that covered man. The opium did come on the outside, i only scratched it a bit, not so deep, but it stops producing as soon as picked, so i just left some of it there, tasted a bit and it was bitter as fcuk!
So haven't wasted any, just a pin heads worth to taste.

Was more worried that there was something dangerous about consuming fresh pods, i know to extensively crush, i always blend my dried ones in the water too, it actually softens them up more, and makes it even finer.
 
yeah, the pods have two walls, making a cut in first wall but not in second make opiumn going outside ( 1mm or 2 to cut just first wall)

if you cut 1st and 2ond wall, (more than 3 mm deep cut) then opium travel outside and fastly back inside

next season if you can get a really sharp knife ( like those old thing to shave the face hair) you will get mostly all the opium from the pods. The tea is good but the opium..OMG .

Only bad thing ( wich is pretty bad ) is that thw WD from opium is nasty
 
It came to 65g fresh.
I assume some of that is water,
My normal dose is 40g of turkish ones dried, but havent had it for weeks, but did do codeine last 2 days...
But i have no idea of how strong these are although the tiny bit of latex was the deal im sure, my tongue was tingling. Suppose i will have to take it slow and see how bitter it is, though i find it hard with redosing, doesnt work, so hope i reach a desirable level...
 
just boil the pod powder 3-4 seconds and quickly out of fire and let it rest for 15 minutes, then add sugar (sugar is just for the taste : P ) and it will work pretty sure ( about the strength of the pods you have..honestly no idea)
 
Yeah it werent really in a place i could freely milk it mate! And only 12.
Just had to pick it, i know to cut it fine.
I use responsibly to not become addicted. Once or twice a month thing. More often codeine as its less addicting and easy to get obviously.
 
El Barto said:
just boil the pod powder 3-4 seconds and quickly out of fire and let it rest for 15 minutes, then add sugar (sugar is just for the taste : P ) and it will work pretty sure ( about the strength of the pods you have..honestly no idea)
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I never like to boil it, destroys codeine, then morphine. but at the start i poured almost boiling water in, blended, then left to cool. Went out for an hour, came back and its on a low heat mixed with a couple of calcium tabs and some lemon juice.
Its pretty much ready.
Wont bother adding anything to taste. The dried pods really dont taste too bad to me i dont care, we will see with fresh though!
 
you will be smart by just taking it one or twice per month :)

i have been many months ion a row with daily fresh opium latex, and the days i didnt have, well the second day ( it seems to have a long half life) it was so close to those nasty, from good H, WD . Pretty crazy

try to conservate the seeds so next season, you can find a peacifully field where to put em and milky em, thats my job for next season here too


ps: yeah, you can bet fresh will taste worse

yeah you cant boil that much cause destroys alkaloids, just some second of really low boiling thats how it works to me. I guess it can be done in heat-without boiling-water. i just trust the guy who made that blog, he has many exp with oppie

the lemon juice is a good idea to help the alkaloids coming to the tea water
 
It's pretty hard to judge potency based on taste - there's a lot of bitter components in the poppy that aren't morphine.

I also think that 60gm of fresh poppies will probably equal less than 40gm of dried. Most plants hold a suprising amount of water.

yeah you cant boil that much cause destroys alkaloids,
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I think morphine and the like are stable for short periods of boiling in mild acid, but extended boiling in strong acid will rearrange it to apomorphine.
 
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