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nah I missed that, those ling are crackers though, the biggest I've seen caught by someone I was out on a boat with was only a couple feet long. Were you fishing a wreck? Unfortunately there are none around here, so its all inshore stuff and very boring.
 
yeah, we fished about 6 wrecks that day, was flat calm so went out about 6o miles and worked our way back in...had a load of pollack too, few whiting, but mainly cod and ling....

Western Approaches, English Channel is packed with wrecks...

Your shore fishing is much better than ours anyway :)

apologies to raas, TLM and anyone else who might be offended by the sight of unprocessed sustainably caught fish.

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Pollack are in decline down here down to hugh fuckface whittingstall et all telling everyone to eat pollack....we were regularly catching up to 20lb pollack, but a 15lber is rare now....

The commercial boats are filling their cod quota in the first two months of the year, and then having to go out after pollack which still have huge quotas...

But leaves bigger cod for us, mate had a 32lber the other week :)

Pollack are not as hard fighting as a good cod, their first dive is incredibly powerful, then they are quickly subdued, maybe one more crash dive halfway up, bu then they give up....

Cod just keep nodding and shaking their heads all the way up..

That day i thought I'd had a fucking monster, me mates even reeled in cos it was so fucking strong, didn't think I'd land it, turned out a 22lb ling, fucking tailhooked.....great fish though...you ever eaten ling? As good as cod I think.
 
Mailmonkey said:
Yep. More humane, more selective, and less damaging to the marine environment.

Yet someone could post up a picture of some industrially fished fish fingers (tonnes of bycatch put back into the sea dead, trawl nets ripping up the sea bed in the process, the fish involved having died a long slow death trapped in the net, crushed and suffocated by tonnes of other fish etc) and not get any stick whatsoever.
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As sick as (I find) the pictures, MM does have a very good point here. By actually going out and finding his own food, it puts him above 90% of the general public who eat their industrially fished Birdseye fish fingers without sparing any consideration from where their food comes from.



Marmalade said:
Out of interest, what's your stance on meat eating in general (incl fish)?
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Haven't eaten any fish for about 6 years. I eat pork, chicken and beef from a local free range farm, nothing else, so that makes me semi-vegetarian.

ceres said:
nothing disgusting about this atall.
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The issue I have is the size of the fish. At that weight being hooked out the ocean has got to be extremely uncomfortable for them. Have the hooks in that picture actually pierced through the mouths? (And please don't anyone spin the old convenient "fish don't feel pain" myth) And how does he then kill them? They look way too big for the old knock out slap on the head. Does he suffocate them to death?

Would you like to be the next huge fish that MM catches? Chances are you'd be horrified if that happened to you.

Considering the suffering involved I can't see how anyone can justify pulling the sea life out the ocean just for the sake of a meal, which can easily have been replaced with other food.
 
But surely fish that have lived completely free their whole lives before being killed (where death is not a certainty) is more ethical to eat than free range chicken for example, where the death rate is certain (usually at age 16 weeks) with an outdoor allowance of (minimum) 8 hours per day?

The actual method of killing free range animals is the same as factory bred animals, where they are shipped off to the slaughterhouse. Chickens are often tied onto a conveyor belt by their feet and have their throats cut. Cows usually have the bolt method used on them which is a lot quicker.

Free range is how they lived, not how they died - the same applies when fishing.
 
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not heard such a bullshit rationalisation for cheap farming in all my life

tell you what robert, arch your butt up for me

nope i wont bum you

just clubbing you over the head ......you braindead sentient fuckwit
 
raas_2012 said:
The issue I have is the size of the fish. At that weight being hooked out the ocean has got to be extremely uncomfortable for them. Have the hooks in that picture actually pierced through the mouths? (And please don't anyone spin the old convenient "fish don't feel pain" myth) And how does he then kill them? They look way too big for the old knock out slap on the head. Does he suffocate them to death?

Would you like to be the next huge fish that MM catches? Chances are you'd be horrified if that happened to you.

Considering the suffering involved I can't see how anyone can justify pulling the sea life out the ocean just for the sake of a meal, which can easily have been replaced with other food.
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Yes i could replace it with other food, I , like you, get meat from a local organic farm...the meat I get still comes from large sentient animals, just like the meat you eat.

I've never said fish feel no pain. I kill them with a knock on the head, with a baseball bat, one hit usually does it.

Your issue is the size of the fish, fish of this size are often caught in trawl nets, and then dragged around the ocean floor for a few hours with a huge weight of other fish building in the net, and those fish suffocate slowly. And if they happen to be the wrong species they'll get thrown overboard dead.

I accept that for a vegetarian it all looks pretty gruesome, but, as others have said it is a sustainable way of getting fish for the table, there is less suffering, less damage to marin environment, less bycatch.

raas said:
Haven't eaten any fish for about 6 years. I eat pork, chicken and beef from a local free range farm, nothing else, so that makes me semi-vegetarian.
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fucking hell, I'm a semi-veggie too!
 
Mailmonkey said:
bass stuff
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Huh, genuinely didn't know that about bass, though can't say I've had it myself. I eat a fair bit of sushi so I know fairly well what's what about that, but bass doesn't tend to turn up in that sort of cooking, at least not in my experience. Will keep that in mind next time I'm out n about though, although isn't something I'd order meself. Think I'm gonna end up reading all about this after your last post, poor slimy weird things.

jancrow said:
That's yer mod app fucked then, Snolly. Fell down on the fish questions. :(
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So close :( Maybe there's a bonus round? :D
 
bass is great for sashimi. Similar to using gilthead or black bream. (again, MOST giltheads these days are farmed and airfreighted in from greece, Cyprus, turkey)
 
I have the one from Lidl, it's pretty good.

EDIT>>>>Just had fish fingers, peas, and a fucking mountain of homemade tartare sauce.
 
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I <3 fish fingers. But not eaten any ferra while now. Still on the fish though. Yesterday I had smoked cod fishcakes wiv Emmental sauce in the middle (quite liking these fishcakes with "stuff" in the middle of late). Had boiled new potatoes 'n' herby butter with 'em instead of me usual mash. Very tasty :)

Fish of the day today was plain ol' breaded pollock (I thought it was pollack but says pollock on the label). Gotta say I much prefer coley - soooooooo much tastier. Pollock is bland as fuck. Dirt cheap, mind. £2.50 for four breaded fillets. Then again, that frozen coley was £2 for six fillets and I'm sure I could bread 'em if I really wanted to...
 
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