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ScarecrowPANA

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I was reading around, came across the acetone wash thread. I have a decent amount of knowledge and have been a part of other drug forums, mainly know alot about opiates but MDMA is now my drug of choice, and I'm trying to broaden my horizon of knowledge, I go to a lot of music festivals with test kits to punk out all the methylone and mephedrone sellers and help people out, i will probably go ahead and volunteer for bunk poliec or some organization soon enough as i goto them quite often...

Anyways the reason i am making this thread is a common misconception or misunderstanding about the color of MDMA...


Over the weekend i went to All Good Music Festival and had brought a little under a gram of the best MDMA moon rocks i think i might ever get my hands on, the test kit was a crazy crazy reactiion and purity of color that i wanted to see testing mdma... THe high was so clean and so intense for the amount of dosage we took, at one point i was rolling so hard, i couldnt even move, laying back in the venue with my mouth wide open and my eyes unable to open in pure heaven....

So i was out hunting for more mdma to bring home with throw away test kits in my pocket, ran across a guy who said he had some good rocks trying to get rid of before he drove home, i tested them, and it was the most insane chemical reaction to anything i have ever tested in my life and i have tested numerous amounts of MDMA and "MDMA" at all the festivals and events... The only thing is, i am very weary of these moon rocks because they are like a pure brown but transparent, pretty dark brown than ive seen before but still in the light can see right through them... I have had off brown, but not a pure beige like these.....

My assumption was that there might have been a step off the acetone wash off this batch of mdma, or a lazy acetone wash at that...

MY MAIN QUESTIONS ARE AS FOLLOWS IF YOU CAN ANSWER WOULD MUCH APPRECIATE IT!

1. Since the mdma is not so opaque and clear as you want to see it, will it produce what you could call a dirtier high as if it was acetone washed better?
2. What kind of dangers could a user run into being a darker color than a crystalline looking moon rock?
3. Comparing it to a clean clear mdma high, what would it be like compared to a darker rock colored mdma high? or none at all? just worse for the body?



Thank you if you took the time to read this thread, and thank you in advanced if you decide to reply and help me out... I also hope this may help out the next person as well
 
almost 100 views and not one person can answer a question simply about the color of moon rocks? hmph
 
color isn't much of an indicator, the test results are what determine the content. that said, transparent beige crystals with a waxy texture fit the description of the purest md iv tried (impossible to find nowadays). also, you should stay away from methylone/mephedrone/opiates, md isn't fruit-salad, but that other stuff will do (serious) damage to you.
 
Hey I'm all for using test kits and helping others. But if you really want to help, refrain from using slang like 'moon rocks'. Just call it MDMA.

Acetone washes can help clean up your MDMA, by getting rid of certain impurities & contaminants.

MDMA can come in many different forms. Having a test kit to verify that you have MDMA is your best bet.

Don't judge a book by its cover. Judge it by its reaction to your reagents.

Edit : If you were really concerned about the purity of your product you could always gc/ms. Just might cost you a pretty penny.
 
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Diloadid said:
Hey I'm all for using test kits and helping others. But if you really want to help, refrain from using slang like 'moon rocks'. Just call it MDMA.

Acetone washes can help clean up your MDMA, by getting rid of certain impurities & contaminants.

MDMA can come in many different forms. Having a test kit to verify that you have MDMA is your best bet.
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Is an acetone wash really needed? I had some really really clean MDMA at allgood fest past weekend i took home from summer camp at the last hour before i left, which happened to be the same exact time i left allgood that i picked up these brown ones.... It looks like there is moisture with it.... I will refrain from using moon rocks, thank you for the awareness, its just what ive learned to use being that almost everything i tested thats fake (which is over 100 ez test kit tubes no exageration) were majority powderized minus the methylone jagged rock look-a-like... I usually do call it mdma in fact lol, calling a molecule by its name....

If i dont acetone wash it, would it affect the high and in what way? would it be a more anxiety filled come up, or will it simply not affect the high, and simply be worse for my body? Thats the main question i want to hear the answer to, because i literally cant get over how WELL this mdma im talking about tested... It was such a crazy chemical reaction it got hot, and i know if i would have put the plastic cap on it would have popped off from pressure as it has in the past to crazy reactions.....

90sdance said:
color isn't much of an indicator, the test results are what determine the content. that said, transparent beige crystals with a waxy texture fit the description of the purest md iv tried (impossible to find nowadays). also, you should stay away from methylone/mephedrone/opiates, md isn't fruit-salad, but that other stuff will do (serious) damage to you.

Don't judge a book by its cover. Judge it by its reaction to your reagents.

Edit : If you were really concerned about the purity of your product you could always gc/ms. Just might cost you a pretty penny.
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As i said, im very very experienced with using my ez test tubes as i bought 500 packs the beginning of last year to peddle to kids at festivals making a win win situation helping out and making money... And i am quite experienced to stay away from all the crap as you mentioned... I am actually SO cautious that i have never once taken fake mdma besides the piperazines i got my hands on as a young kid 7 or 8 years ago... my mouth literally dropped when i dropped one of these little rocks in the glass ez test brand vile...

As i said again... Im just wanting to know, (the main purpose of this thread) is what upsides or downsides come along with having a darker mdma/mda, and does the darker it is, mean that the less caring acetone wash it was?

To the both of you, thank you if you answer my main question.
 
Anytime!

I mean personally if you have regent tested your gear and it is okay, I wouldn't see the need of doing an acetone wash unless you have tested your product and found that doses in the average dose range are not giving you the full potential of MDMA.

For instance, if your marquis regent shows you have an MDxx compound yet a dose of 100-150mg does not yield any active results, there could be need for an acetone wash. Unless you have only 150mg of said sample. In which case you should probably just toss it. I guess what I'm getting at is, if you have a sizable amount, like a half-gram to a gram, there would be good reason to acetone wash.

I don't really know what you are trying to ask... Except an acetone wash should get rid of some adulterants/impurities. The appearance of your MDMA doesn't conclude anything, and having darker colored MDMA doesn't really mean anything.
 
Ok that last sentence basically canceled out my question... I was under the assumption the darker your mdma is, the more impurities is in it, i thought that an acetone wash would simply get rid of impurities thus making it more cllear/white of a color than darker....

Really i was just wondering if dark mdma meant alot of impurities, and was wondering if impurities would effect the high besides having to take more...

Taking not enough doesnt seem like it would be a problem for me, i would just dose with more... It would simply be a matter of inconvenience to me as far as dosing at the time for my favorite artist to come on at an event to be peaking at that particular show, or timing it so im peaking at a time that i want to be peaking....

Thank you for sticking with my thread, and talking me through this strung out question, i really really do appreciate it.
 
It's not as simple as darker = less pure... the synthesis route, how the crystals are formed, how it is treated after the chemist ships it to the dealers (if it is exposed to moisture/air) can all affect the color of the drug.



Also, if you take too little for the first dose, trying to dose with more to get where you want to be simply does not work. I once dosed with a 70mg pill (lab tested), and later another 100mg after that didn't get me where I wanted to be. I completely wasted that second dose, it hardly did anything other than keep the weak ass roll I had from coming down for an extra hour :\
 
Dark MDMA means nothing. I've seen pictures of red MDMA crystals that test as MDxx.

Testing is key.
 
^ Just because it tests as MDMA doesn't mean it can't be like 50% pure and 50% synthesis impurities that would still test similar to MDMA anyway...


IMO, if you aren't completely sure with how your MDMA looks it never hurts to do an acetone wash (provided you do it right, that is)


there have been a number of samples on ED lately that had impurities in substantial amounts in the end product:
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2731
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2824
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2644
 
I know Folley. I mentioned in one of my replies earlier that if he had a sizable amount it might be worth his time to acetone wash. There isn't a point with 100mg to 150mg tho. IMO
 
I know as well, I was reiterating your point as it was a good one :) but, was also just trying to say that a reagent can't tell you everything.


You can do it with 300mg, even if you use straight acetone without taking the water out you'll probably end up with something like 200-250mg which is plenty for a roll. Keep in mind that all the nasty gunk that was taking up weight should be out of there, too.
 
I've tested this MDMA twice now, and each time i did, i was really surprised because ive never seen such a wild checmical bubbly smoking reaction and pure purpleish black color.

My question still hasnt been answered, lol, i understand that impurities can kill my dosages and what not, but what im wondering is, how bad are those impurities you all talk about before acetone wash, and does it affect the high, other than having to dose with more?
 
It would vary from batch to batch, and then as it works it way down from dealer to dealer.

Could be imperfectly cooked, could be cut with methamphetamine, could have anything.

That's the point, there's no real answer to your question, unless you had it tested fully and knew what the impurities were.

If you are really concerned then acetone wash it should at least do some good :)
 
I'm actually worried i will improperly do an acetone wash and ruin my batch, its probably about 3/4ths a gram, and im worried it might be the best mdma i ever had after watching the marquis reaction
 
ScarecrowPANA said:
how bad are those impurities you all talk about before acetone wash, and does it affect the high, other than having to dose with more?
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without a definitive identification of said impurities, nobody can answer these questions.

there are way too many variables at play in this discussion for anybody here to give you a vaguely useful answer let alone something authoritative.

alasdair
 
Understood... I guess i'll have to rely on my marquis reaction... It was the best ive seen yet...

and to holy toast, i really am not sure if its going to be the best quality ive had yet, i just have a feeling it might be due to how little amount i got reaction to in my eztest tube... i guess a big reason for making this thread is cuz im going to a bassnectar concert and its in a public place so im going to minimize what im carrying on person as much as i possibly can, simply for personal use, me only, so if worse comes to worse, if the cops bust people/me i catch a much lesser charge, with that being said, really trying to decide which to bring, a double dose of what i know is great quality that i have leftover from a few months back festival, or this brand new bag of best marquis tested... probably going to stick to what i already know and know how much to dose with to be exactly where i want to be or close to it...


thank you all again for all your time in your posts and trying to answer difficult question, appreciate patience and dilligence, im new to this forum, only really posted in the ecstacy part, but as expected it seems to be a wonderful community so far.
 
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