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Meth - 10mg a day - That extra edge, minus withdrawl

tweex

tweex

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I'd been hesitant to try meth, given all the negative publicity surrounding it.

However, it does have appealing properties as a productivity drug to give you that extra little edge. I'd previous had no addiction issues with benzos, alcohol or nicotine, so I figured I wasn't at super high risk of becoming addicted. Plus I've got a lot of modafinil around, so I figured I'd have an easy time coming off if needed.

I managed to get a tiny quantity of meth synthesized by a local unlicensed pharmaceutical chemist using a single vessel method, which was quite impure. I went through washes and recrystallization, and accidentally inhaled some smoke during one of the boildowns (yes, I should have been wearing one of my respirators or SCBAs in retrospect). I was high as balls and euphoric, but then I hit the comedown. 600mg Modafinil did help a lot. That was my first and only time (accidentally) smoking it. I'm not doing that again. 8)

Once I finally had my highly pure d-meth, I dosed 10mg orally along with 325mg Aspirin, 1g Ascorbic acid, 10mg PQQ, 300mg Lucidril and 5mg Methylene Blue all as neuroprotective agents.

I found 10mg to be a great dose to add that extra little edge onto my energy levels without getting at all tweaked, or having any comedown. It was a nice subtle lift in mood without huge euphoria, and feeling of that extra bit of energy and motivation without wanting to do anything crazy.

I did it three days in a row, and now have stopped for another two, and had no cravings or compulsion to re-dose.

I'd speculate to a large degree that my paranoia of brain damage from going to high doses and understanding of neurobiology helped outweigh any wants to chase the high.

Anyway, anecdotal evidence that taking small doses orally of (nearly) pure d-meth can give you that extra edge without leading down a dangerous path. %)

It also synergized great with 10mg Nicotine, 400mg Caffeine and 500mg Phenylpiracetam to get extremely stimulated without getting tweaked out.

I've got some 2-FMA coming in soon, so I'll be interested in comparing it.

Still, tread carefully if you are prone to addiction.
 
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d-meth is still a widely used prescription drug, at least here in USA, in 5mg and 10mg? too? The paranoia and brain damage is simply not seen with oral d-meth...at least when used in the manor prescribed. I don't know what happens to 'meth heads' but I suspect it is more a matter of life style, (lack of) nutrition, and daily over-dosages. I know methamphetamine in reasonable dosages (10-15mg/day max) is healthier than nearly any of the mood stabilizers/anti-psychotics/anti-depressants/etc that are currently all the rage.
 
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morninggloryseed said:
You do know d-meth is still a widely used prescription drug, at least here in USA, in 5mg and 10mg? too? Well either way, the paranoia and brain damage is simply not seen with oral d-meth...at least when used in the manor prescribed. I don't know what happens to 'meth heads' but I suspect it is more a matter of life style, (lack of) nutrition, and daily over-dosages. I know methamphetamine in reasonable dosages (10-15mg/day max) is healthier than nearly any of the mood stabilizers/anti-psychotics/anti-depressants/etc that are currently all the rage.
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Yes, although meth itself does lead to neurotoxicity and dopamine downregulation at higher doses. I found a paper claiming it is neuroprotective at low concentrations, but I couldn't figure a way to extrapolate to actual doses. You still can easily eat enough d-meth to get into serious trouble.

Also lurasidone is the newest/hottest antipsychotic on the block, and I'd venture a good bit safer than meth. But generally I'd agree.
 
tweex said:
Yes, although meth itself does lead to neurotoxicity and dopamine downregulation at higher doses. I found a paper claiming it is neuroprotective at low concentrations, but I couldn't figure a way to extrapolate to actual doses. You still can easily eat enough d-meth to get into serious trouble.

Also lurasidone is the newest/hottest antipsychotic on the block, and I'd venture a good bit safer than meth. But generally I'd agree.
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Interesting the neuroprotective information. I'll have to read more. Moderation is key as with anything.
 
bob_arctor said:
Nice and succinct report tweex. Just curious, what's the rationale for supplementing METH with centrophenoxine?
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It has antioxidant and neuroprotective effects. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0197018609001351

I'm not sure if 10mg falls in the neuroprotective dosage range, but I suspect it falls above it (anyone care to figure out what dose is?). Thus my rationale for stacking several safe antioxidant and neuroprotective agents when taking what I assume to be a mildly neurotoxic dose. I'm also interested in adding Sodium Butyrate, but I have not yet had a chance to make an informed decision on any potential adverse effects unlike the rest of my stack.

I still like pissing green from the methylene blue. Cool party trick.
 
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