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Harm Reduction The Pain Management Mega Thread Version 4

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I think thats very true for a lot of people. Sometimes opiates just make you not care about the pain but not actually releive it as such. I ofter find 1000mg of paracetamol along with 800 mg of ibuprofen is moee effective than 180mg of methadone. After youve been on opiate painkillers as long as I have (17 years) your taking them basically to stop wds.
 
Ya the long term kills any possitive effects of opiates. That is why I stopped taking them. At the dose I was taking and still feeling wds and pain its not right. Not easy to stop but one day it hit me 500mg ox a day should make me feel good. Always had this problem since a youth. Pain meds just dont work for whatever reason. Doctors think I'm lying or junkie. Even dentist is hell, novicane dosen't work. Lately I doing good but the other day I started feeling my hardware. Its a strange internsl pain. Next thing it starts raining. It really is the humidity and my leg is a weather station.
 
One thing I noticed wwhile on fentanyl patches (taking 300mcg / hour.....the maximim dosage) was thst my pain would flare up worse than ever. I have a stab wound to my right hip that I got while working as a bouncer in the 90s....blade went into the bone aand had rust on it which caused an abscess that had to be cut out as well. Anyway that hadn't bothered me for years but while on fentanyl patches it was so bad i could hardly walk. And fentanyl is supposed to be the strongest there is. That really puzzled me......... That's why I got so much sympathy for RodRamsey as I know what it's like to be in pain as the result of someone else's violent actions.
 
I know how rod feels too, I'm pretty much bed bound and also use a wheelchair, but yeah my condition started after some stupid woman ran me over while I was helping a breakdown outside my work, she should have stopped and waited but didn't, and I got crushed by about 6 tonnes of weight. Had surgery last week and it has done me more harm than good hasn't helped my pain at all
 
Sorry to hear that mate. You probably dont live far from me actually. As well as the stab wound which actually isnt that bad most of the time ive got chronic reactive arthritis and just had a tumor removed from my spine. Im in a lot of pain but still go to the gym 5 days a week so im nowhere near as bad as you in terms of injury.
 
Dam thats harsh, hit and run bitch. Wheelchair in itself messes with a young healthy person mind. One minute your indestructable, next crippled in the chair. I been there and the first couple months are hell. Huge bones broken or internal injuries take a long time. One thing I wasn't aware of is it takes normal guy 6-7 months sometimes to naturally replace a pint of blood. I was running 2-3 pints low for couple months and feeling weird. They finally gave me 3 pints at last surgery after seeing my blood count. How can you heal when running low. I try eating rare steaks thinking it would help but not really. Not sure if that had to do with pain meds not working or pain levels. At this point I have to be full up, and recovery has reached a good point. Enough to stop taking meds at least. Keep asking alot of questions about your case to the doctors/surgeons. In my case they not really helpful and I was in no condition to aquire knowledge or even know what other problems had happened during surgery. I could be on full disability but trying hard not to burden the state. Others are raping the system here.
 
I have complex regional pain syndrome, it means constant agony in my legs right arm and affecting some organs. It is degenerative, been like this for four years now. I also used to be a cage fighter (yeah I'm a girl) so going from semi pro fights to being in too much pain to move, bare weight,slightest breeze and my affected limbs are excruciating. I no longer remember how it feels to not be in pain. And then there's the mental health problems due to accident and condition
 
Wow that serious circumstance, but its inspiring that you still are fighting. Mentally battling thru injuries, depression way harder than a cage fight. I been in huge brawls and that pain hurts but leaves quick. These complicated chronic pain conditions, honestly nobody knows how to deal with. Not the injured or doctors. It happens soo fast, that huge change in physical capabilities itself can break you down. When I was on the street bleeding out unable to move I told my friends please shoot me for real. Put me out of this hell. It was such a shock nobody could handle it. It takes years to heal from trauma, any kind of trauma. Mental, physical its all tough and wish there was more help and aswers. I wish you the best and you are still a fighter. This fight is harder in alot of ways.
 
I've been in the psych unit recently, I couldn't handle the pain or the psychosis, still in a quite a mess mentally and my pain is really high, at 9.5 and there's nothing I can do other than stay in bed and try to get as much rest as possible. Ugh I hate CRPS god awful nasty condition
 
9.5 is unacceptable, they need to do nerve treatments or something. I'm far from a doctor but know how they can easily turn to the next patient when a huge obstical comes in like the pain your describing. I was there 9.5-100.5 it felt right after surgery, in the ambulance I wanted to die or pass out. Something kept me alive as I was told 30 mins more and I would have bled out internally. You have special condition, any chance of a second opinion or fresh set of eyes on your case? Sometimes the answer is out there, just have to meet the right dr. Stay strong mentally your a fighter. I wanted to go to psych ward recently but can't loose 3 more weeks in hospital. The body is capable of healing and stranger things have happened. Hope you find the right care. Keep us informed, i not going anywhere. Feeling pretty horrible this weekend mentally. Best to stay off the streets when I like this. Frustration/stress everything builds up surrounding injuries and diff medical issues. We stay strong and keep it moving forward.
 
I've been under lots of different drs. I've tried every medication imaginable for my condition, a variety of psych drugs, benzos for muscle seizures, meds for my stomach and digestive system, creams, lidocaine patches and topical cream, physio, holistic therapies, nerve blocks, lumbar sympathetic nerve blocks last week (no help to my pain, made me worse and the bone hurts from where the needles went through.
 
Ooo that needle for the nerve treatment ooogly. What is up with that thing. Bad enough you need such a procedure then this huge needle, more like a metal stick gets jamd in. I had my nerve block about 2" from groin area, and the needle goes in and in. They were good about it and after the first blast of electricity my whole leg went dead. I guess it doesn't work for everything. My problem now is my knee and they can't do mri because of all the hardware in my leg. I tried lidocaine patch and it did nothing either. People like us are beyond current pain treatments unfortunately. Supposedly some new stuff coming but who knows when or if effective. I don't trust any doctor in my area. Do the benzos help you sleep at least? I know sleeping a huge challenge when in 9.5 pain. That lack of sleep is what drives people insane. The meds they giving for pain trash your digestive system. Then they give you more med to combat the problem. Keep those doctors working, don't ever let up on them. Make sure they aware of this condition and working on solution. I had nobody helping me or an advocate during surgery. Fam was out of town and friends scared off from the whole event. No fun, hope you feel better soon.
 
Today I picked up my prescription for Opana ER. Usualy, I have to pay $$$ per prescription of Opana ER. Today, it was only $$$. I looked at the receipt and said, (hmm?)
It didn't even cross my mind. I didn't think this was possible. I never would have even dreamed about this. but, it's true. Opana ER has gone generic.

I got Opana ER HL. It was cheaper. These pills are smaller. and , holy shit. They are utterly abuse-able.

I don't know what to say. I spent the last 2 years trying to forget how much I enjoy snorting these pills.
I guess the only solution , is to ask my doctor to put me back on the abuse-proof opana ER?
but then, A) I have to pay more per month for the name brand meds and B) I have to admit to the clinic that I have in the past been abusing Opana ER.
Which, I never had to tell anyone.... because Opana ER Abuse-proof arrived just in time to save my ass.

Opana ER Therapy is a LOT more effective when you take the pills orally, as prescribed. I know this!!

but I'm scared... I'm really scared. I had no idea that Opana ER HL (generic) was coming down the pipes. I had no idea until this afternoon!!!
 
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How is opana xr abuse proof? I had some type of opana years ago recreational use and it put me to sleep back then, before the mega oxy dose portion of my life. When pills go up the nose I find them to come on faster and leave way faster leaving you in 2 hours instead of 4. Everyone is diff but wding from any pill insuff habbit is way harder and symptoms tend to be worse. Generics are awesome though, wish they would do it for all pills.
 
Doomed2pain said:
I have complex regional pain syndrome, it means constant agony in my legs right arm and affecting some organs. It is degenerative, been like this for four years now. I also used to be a cage fighter (yeah I'm a girl) so going from semi pro fights to being in too much pain to move, bare weight,slightest breeze and my affected limbs are excruciating. I no longer remember how it feels to not be in pain. And then there's the mental health problems due to accident and condition
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Did you mention the cage fighting as you possibly think it may have contributed to your current situation? I enjoy most fights but had to stop watching the Ausie Blood sport; cage fights as many fighters were being permanently injured and as you must know there have been many deaths.
In the UK and all over the world for that matter mixed martial arts training and fights are expanding for women at an astounding rate. Moe
 
RodRamsey said:
How is opana xr abuse proof? I had some type of opana years ago recreational use and it put me to sleep back then, before the mega oxy dose portion of my life. When pills go up the nose I find them to come on faster and leave way faster leaving you in 2 hours instead of 4. Everyone is diff but wding from any pill insuff habbit is way harder and symptoms tend to be worse. Generics are awesome though, wish they would do it for all pills.
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Opana ER (Brand name. any size) as of early 2012/late 2011 (depends where you live), there was a new version introduced. It is absolutely 100% abuse-proof. There is no removing of the outer coating. There is no way to break up the pill. you can't bite it in half. Heck, you couldn't cut it in half with a hacksaw (I'm not kidding) the Opana ER (name brand) pills are built with the strength of a tiny block of concrete. From what I've read, the 1 and only way to even begin to breakdown the pill? Is for the tablet to interact with your internal stomach acids.

Until the tablet finds your stomach acids, you can't break it down. you can't peel off the layers, you can't crush it up, you can't...... do... anything! Even if you took an Opana ER (brand name) and you put it into a glass of water? Nothing would happen. You could leave it in water over night, then come back the next day and pull it out of the water. No change. Nadda.

now, though?
It's just like the olden days. Whenever it was you were on Opana er, in the past? Yes, it's exactly like that now. you can break the pills in half with your pinky fingers, if you want to. You can lick off the special coating with your tongue (like a lollipop) and then break it down for snorting or slamming , 15 seconds later.

Now, the Opana ER (generic) ........ I don't know how else to put it, it's easily the most abuse-ready pill that I've ever been prescribed.
 
Oh i got you, theres only one ROA-swallow. Still I always consider any opiate abusable just because I can take 2-3 of them and get the super nod. Opana is very strong from what I remember. Somewhere btw a rox30 and oxy20? If I could go back to opiates would like some opana but I would abuse them by taking too many. Crushing opiates was never my thing. I used to crush suboxone tabs and that was a diff experience.
 
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Did you mention the cage fighting as you possibly think it may have contributed to your current situation? I enjoy most fights but had to stop watching the Ausie Blood sport; cage fights as many fighters were being permanently injured and as you must know there have been many deaths.
In the UK and all over the world for that matter mixed martial arts training and fights are expanding for women at an astounding rate. Moe
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No my training had nothing to do with my condition, was just giving the before and after examples
 
Ya i think a car hitting you is way worse than any opponent. Hopefully coming from an active background helps your recovery. I just worked out on my bad leg and now the rain started. The humidity makes it feel like my leg about to fall off lol. Was doing great until it rained.
 
I don't think I'd be as bad off if it had been a car, but no it was a fully loaded 6 ton van :/ ah well
 
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