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I have lost hope in Lucy

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Ciosrataecz

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My friends, I have lost hope in Lucy (lsd) I don't know if I could ever learn to love her. 3 trips non a success. Major vasoconstriction. Couldn't have been DOx or anything else. Visuals so soo similar to shrooms but a totally different mindfuck. I had defended Lucy till this day. Saying it was better than shrooms. Da fuck was I thinking!? Once a trip goes south, there's no coming back, there's just no way. Shrooms on the other hand...can go from worst trip to best mo'fuckin trip. My friends due to my experiences with Lucy I feel my relationship with her can no longer exist. I will find refuge in the "all natural" beauty of my fungus lover.
 
Ciosrataecz said:
My friends, I have lost hope in Lucy (lsd) I don't know if I could ever learn to love her. 3 trips non a success. Major vasoconstriction. Couldn't have been DOx or anything else. Visuals so soo similar to shrooms but a totally different mindfuck. I had defended Lucy till this day. Saying it was better than shrooms. Da fuck was I thinking!? Once a trip goes south, there's no coming back, there's just no way. Shrooms on the hand...can go from worst trip to best mo'fuckin trip. My friends due to my experiences with Lucy I feel my relationship with her can no longer exist. I will find refuge in the "all natural" beauty of my fungus lover.
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LSD can be intimidating, its the real deal. i can chomp mushrooms repeatedly without the trip getting too deep or intense for me. with L, it can be a lighthearted fun trip and you turn a corner and it gets real heavy. acid is much more unpredictable, but as a vehicle, it can take you to many, many places other psychedelics cant. if you dont think you can handle those places where it can take you, that might be a sign to take a break from psychedelics.

there is also something to be said about learning more from "bad", difficult trips than "good", easy, fun trips

interesting that you mention the bodyload, for me good LSD has zero effect on my body itself, where as mushrooms and phenelthylamines always seem to
 
Ciosrataecz said:
Once a trip goes south, there's no coming back, there's just no way.
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You can come back from a bad trip you just convinced yourself you can't. It's a skill and one I didn't have in the early tripping years. It's not that hard to turn it around.
I myself am an LSD enthusiast not an LSD advocate. It's not for everyone, almost all my friends won't touch it just because of past bad experiences. I think you doing the right thing, people with multiple bad trips in a row show either quit or take a long break IMO. At least you aren't ending every trip with benzos.
PS lots of people have nightmare trips on mushrooms. Not me, not yet anyway, but it could happen. Don't think because you have had some trips with difficult parts that you can't have a full on bad mushroom trip.
 
I think there can be differences because the rational vs. irrational mental processes are different on mushrooms than on LSD and this has a certain match with a certain personality.
That can lead to one drug being able to mindfuck you into a stranglehold while the other one does not tend to do that IMO.
On top of that: even if we believe that every psychedelic trip is unique, experiences in the past always gives us a sense of trust or distrust with a substance or even with psychedelics in general. And distrust is critical because like trust it is a self-reinforcing thing giving with a self-fulfilling effect.

For me LSD is much easier to handle but when the dose is sufficiently high, the stakes go up and it can be just as insane as mushrooms or even harder. But mushrooms are for me always more of an emotional rollercoaster which is a pretty good explanation why you think that it is easier to get out of a bad trip with mushrooms. Still, it is not as simple --> refer to rest of my post.
 
GreenMachine said:
it can take you to many, many places other psychedelics cant. if you dont think you can handle those places where it can take you, that might be a sign to take a break from psychedelics.

there is also something to be said about learning more from "bad", difficult trips than "good", easy, fun trips
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It is the Difficult trips, that help you grow the most if you just listen and accept the massage... move on, and keep moving forward
 
Honestly this is all in your mind, I find LSD way easier to turn back a trip, however both are very similar psychedelics with the most major difference being duration
 
Yeah, I don't see what he means about not being able to turn LSD's negative around... This is why I love LSD so much. It's all about what you're putting in to it. Things just don't come out of nowhere and get you.

I started thinking it's the apocalypse every time I took mushrooms..in a sense it was the apocalypse, but I start thinking way off things. I end up having to go inside and hide until I think the monsters are gone, like being inside is a fortress to keep me safe, but whatever works.. I've never freaked out like that on LSD though...I wasn't very spontaneous with LSD like I was with mushrooms and other things, however.
 
To the OP - what size doses are you talking about ? because IMO mushrooms are a far more unpredictable and potentially mindfucking substance than acid, at low doses they are kind of similar but once you start ramping up to real effective amounts then mushrooms are far more challenging for the brave psychonaught than introspective old lucy.

How many times have you done each substance substance ?, it doesn't sound to me like you had real lsd but more likely some RC blotter.
 
Ciosrataecz said:
My friends, I have lost hope in Lucy (lsd) I don't know if I could ever learn to love her. 3 trips non a success. Major vasoconstriction. Couldn't have been DOx or anything else. Visuals so soo similar to shrooms but a totally different mindfuck. I had defended Lucy till this day. Saying it was better than shrooms. Da fuck was I thinking!? Once a trip goes south, there's no coming back, there's just no way. Shrooms on the other hand...can go from worst trip to best mo'fuckin trip. My friends due to my experiences with Lucy I feel my relationship with her can no longer exist. I will find refuge in the "all natural" beauty of my fungus lover.
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Sounds like you got sold bunk shit, there's more chemicals than DOX that are getting sold as "LSD" so don't rule that out. LSD doesn't cause bad vasoconstriction, it's not even noticeable when tripping.
 
Maybe LSD just isn't for you? I know people who will trip on shrooms but they won't take LSD, and people who will take LSD but they do not take mushrooms. YMMV.

killo said:
Sounds like you got sold bunk shit, there's more chemicals than DOX that are getting sold as "LSD" so don't rule that out. LSD doesn't cause bad vasoconstriction, it's not even noticeable when tripping.
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There's always this as well. It's not noticeable and it's not like the vasoconstriction many people get from Pseudo ephedrine or an anti-histamine.
 
I couldn't see not like LSD, the only thing I have against shrooms is their tendency to make me pass out randomly while standing and have a short seizure. That's happened three times, and I've hurt myself in the fall everytime.
It's awful, the dreamy lucidity of mushrooms is my favourite
 
Mushrooms can be a beautiful thing, but boy oh boy, they can sure bring the emotional darkness and cut right into your deepest insecurities and fears like a razor.

As someone above said, if you're still in the mushroom honeymoon phase, good for you, but don't think it can never go wrong.

LSD has certainly given me a few awful trips where I am stuck in a confused and physically uncomfortable place. It has also hit some emotional sore spots, but I don't think it can hold a candle to the unpredictability and eviscerating potential of mushrooms until you go absolutely overboard.
 
To each their own, some people just don't like LSD. I for one don't really think mushrooms hold a candle to good ol' LSD.
 
Maybe it's not for you... But, there is definitely ways to come back from a difficult trip. A lot of times a difficult trip turns out to be the most eye opening experiences of them all. If it's turning south, there is a reason. You need to get to the bottom of it for your trip to turn around. A change in setting helps. Try turning on some music or if your listening to some, change it. Go outside, different room the possibilities are endless. Try stepping out into nature and let everything sink in.
If your with someone experienced they can help guide you to a positive mindset. An experienced psychedelic user is good to have around during a trip to assist you if needed. As for visuals, I don't think mushrooms and LSD visuals are necessarily comparable. How can you say for certain that you took LSD. There are multiple other psychedelic substances that get sold as LSD.
 
I know some people with paper... and the $300 a sheet stuff is DOC. The $500+ a sheet is LSD or AL-LAD. I honestly couldn't tell you the difference other than DOC takes longer to hit and last longer. Now DOB or DOM, COMPLETE difference. And I've never done 25c, 25i or DOI.
 
Love In Vein said:
I know some people with paper... and the $300 a sheet stuff is DOC. The $500+ a sheet is LSD or AL-LAD. I honestly couldn't tell you the difference other than DOC takes longer to hit and last longer. Now DOB or DOM, COMPLETE difference. And I've never done 25c, 25i or DOI.
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Price doesn't matter. Location is the biggest variable, as some parts of the world have a great abundence of LSD. I've been offered sheets of white LSD in Canada for 250$ each, and I've been offered sheets of plain fucking paper for 1000$ in the grand ol' United States...
 
I don't like LSD. It might feel like a hard thing for some to admit because of it's status as a very special treat, but after enough experimenting I can safely conclude that LSD simply isn't for me. I have had very positive experiences with other psychedelics though. Compared to DMT, lsd brought nothing new to the table, it merely gave me some new slightly novel perspective on top of being a negative emotion amplifier.
 
I described LSD as a dirty drug in an LSD thread & got a little bit of flack for that. Serious fans of the big L don't like to hear it, but, compared to many other psychedelics, acid does appear to be harder on the head & body for some people than others. Equally, for some acid might seem less heavy than shrooms, with psychedelics, it's all subjective...

We're lucky enough to be living in a time of increasing availability & slowly increasing acceptance of psychedelic drugs & the options for using them expand every day. New chemicals appear regularly, & long gone chemicals reappear. There are different compounds that suit different settings & everyone will find a psychedelic that suits them if they seek long & hard enough.
 
Love In Vein said:
I know some people with paper... and the $300 a sheet stuff is DOC. The $500+ a sheet is LSD or AL-LAD. I honestly couldn't tell you the difference other than DOC takes longer to hit and last longer. Now DOB or DOM, COMPLETE difference. And I've never done 25c, 25i or DOI.
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There is most definitely big differences between LSD and DOx, Nbome and other substances that can fit on blotter. If you actually have experience with LSD you will notice many differences. But, price is not a factor. The sheet you claim is alLAD or LSD is a pretty unheard of price (disgusts me). But, if they are selling DOx on blotter chances are that is not LSD imo. ... Especially, if they are trying to pass it off as LSD.
 
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