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EADD Benzo Discussion v.5

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mydrugbuddy said:
cool discovery : if you switch benzos for a few days your tolerance to the first one drops to a significant (in the scientific meaning of the word) extent.

Fuckin thrilled. (one strip of etiz sends me to sleep now, rather than waiting all night for 25 not to do anything :X)
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but what if the "first one" is a benzo with a huge half-life like phenazepam? wouldn't that stay in your system forawhile, making the other benzo seem stronger?
 
matt<3ketamine said:
Yellow msj's seem legit, enjoy them
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The yellow Msj's I've been getting for the last few months have all been spot on.
Had some good Cipla Zepose 10mg a few months back also
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Damn you and your perceptive reply Lurch ! Bang goes my theory. :| ;)
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This is why discussion boards like this are so great. You get far more out of them as an active poster than a lurker, even if you post half baked ideas, chances are your thoughts will clarify and crystalise as you write, or someone else will step in and take your thoughts to their logical conclusion, if you've overlooked the wood for the trees, as i so often do.

You learn so much more by getting involved. Im gonna blind my GP with science next time i see her, (she has no respect for my knowledge which infuriates me more than anything) and if she's still not receptive I'm changing clinics.

Im not racist but at my current doctors you have to queue for 45 minutes to see the receptionist because half the people in the queue infront of you cant even speak English. That does piss me off rather a hell of as lot. They should learn fuckin English.

It's a shame, she was initially very compassionate and caring, like a big loving mother hen, but she now wont even listen ( i forget what comment Sam made about "i wonder why" i dont want to pick an argument Sam, it would just be very useful feedback for me to understand what is going wrong in the communication processes between us -(GP and me) as that seems to have broken down to thr point where she wont even let me speak). My hunch, i could be right, i could be wrong, is that she's had to listen to clueless druggies ramble on to no end or purpose so often that she now tars everyone with the same brush, and none of us get a chance to even speak.

Contrary to how i may seem on here I'm not a drooling incoherent rambling idiot, drugged out of his head all day every day, im concise, articulate and to the fuckin point. Not sure if you were suggesting otherwise. If you were just teasing, thats fine just forget it, but if there was any more substantial reason please share. It could help me enormously. I dont know how often you pop ion these days, and you dont anser my pms so you may not see this anyway. Sorry for all the whingeing !!!!! :\
 
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mydrugbuddy said:
Im not racist but at my current doctors you have to queue for 45 minutes to see the receptionist because half the people in the queue infront of you cant even speak English. That does piss me off rather a hell of as lot. They should learn fuckin English.
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Why are you queuing at all? Phone them. And at my GPs you don't even have to "check in" with the receptionist when you arrive, there is a touchscreen system where you tap in your date of birth, it says "Are you Knock, here to see Dr Easter?", you tap "yes" and then the doc comes out and calls your name.

My mate spent 6 hours waiting to be seen by a doctor in Spain, he didn't speak any Catalan. Fortunately everyone speaks English abroad. Odd how the "foreigners" over here don't :? Then again, we only interact with professionals and customer service types when we're on holiday. The folk that come over here to clean our bogs are just ordinary workers. Maybe your GP surgery should be have more receptionists, or one that speaks the language of the dominant non-English speaking migrant worker community.
 
i have to collect my SSRI repeat prescription every month for which they very rarely bother to set up a separate queue.

I'll put your suggestion in their litte box. Tis a good one, pal.

See you do have a potential career in management ahead of you, should you want that.

Is your Doc really called Doctor Easter lool ?
 
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mydrugbuddy said:
i have to collect my SSRI repeat prescription every month for which they very rarely bother to set up a separate queue.
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This is the entire reason I'm constantly off Citalopram. Before I moved I just had a repeat prescription and would call into the chemist a few days before I ran out. Now I have to see a doctor every month (I'm not about to off myself, that's just what they insist on in case I do) and of course I've got a shit memory anyway, so I'll make the appointment and end up running out, and then my anxiety gets bad and then I miss the appointment because of it and so on and so on and then my GP gets arsey with me. I've asked to be switched to Fluoxetine a few times now if they're going to do that so at least the withdrawals don't kick in so quick and each time they've just said 'give it another three months'. Latest one just yelled at me for failing to go to an asthma appointment, telling me to ring and cancel (I did), despite me explaining I've got a condition that affects my memory and planning as well as Bastard Anxiety and sending me off with 40mg of Citalopram again.

Then girlthing goes to the same GP and gets a fucking repeat script for Diazepam. Which she is at least kind enough to slip me a couple of when I'm freaking out <3 But still! I need to change docs, find a permanent GP instead of some weird revolving door kinda thing.
 
It's interesting how different countries have different cultures when it comes to benzo prescribing. Great Britain having really strict benzo prescribing culture, while in France, benzos are handed out like candy.
 
It's only because they were handed out so freely in the UK that the culture eventually changed.

Thirty years ago the NHS was showering people with diazepam. Many are still addicted.
 
Survival0200 said:
It's interesting how different countries have different cultures when it comes to benzo prescribing. Great Britain having really strict benzo prescribing culture, while in France, benzos are handed out like candy.
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Yeah, it's weird, and a bit of a nightmare. I got prescribed one 10mg Temazepam after begging for it prior to my op and that was from the doc doing my surgery, not my GP. He gave me another for the second op which I actually forgot to pick up for a month. Normal GP wouldn't, even for crippling anxiety or plane flights.

Though I am looking at moving abroad after uni so...;) Specifically to France, actually, but that's coincidental

edit: ah, that explains it.
 
Quick Q, are benzos prone to making it harder to piss? Absolutely sure I read that somewhere and have been having the same trouble lately, coinciding with fairly heavy etizolam/pyrazolam use. Not huge amounts, but to the point where I've decided to stop. But it has tapered off to the point where I'm almost normal now I've not had any in a week.

edit: Yes, apparently so. Answered my own question literally the second I posted. Ace.
 
You need to have a serious documented issue to get scripted benzos here in NY. I been taking alprozam and clons for last 8 years. Started on low dose for sleep only. Then started the clons and somehow my intake went up to 8mg. Now cutt it to 4mg and its deff not easy. Want to get back to that 1-2mg per day but this tapering not soo easy. I have tapered before off opiates but this is alot harder. Any advice or experience would be appreciated.
 
RodRamsey said:
You need to have a serious documented issue to get scripted benzos here in NY. I been taking alprozam and clons for last 8 years. Started on low dose for sleep only. Then started the clons and somehow my intake went up to 8mg. Now cutt it to 4mg and its deff not easy. Want to get back to that 1-2mg per day but this tapering not soo easy. I have tapered before off opiates but this is alot harder. Any advice or experience would be appreciated.
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I think the general advice is to substitute Clonazepam for Diazepam when tapering as its easier to withdraw from (something about the half life.)

http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzsched.htm#s6

of course, i am no expert but there are some out there, Dr Heather Ashton being the foremost.
 
Thanks I read up on that. Valium doesn't really work for me at any dose. Not sure why, its also harder to locate here and real expensive. Xan was always the most effective for my anxiety but clons are 1/3 the price.

Update; thankyou for the info. It makes alot of sense switching to valium because extra long halflife. I going to first have to make it down to 3mg where the chart starts. Some reason that 1mg seem soo far at the moment but thats why its saying drop every week. I did half dosage drop in 1 day so probably have to make that stick then move towards 321. Its a long journey and thanks again for your advice.
 
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