DXM trip did not happen

[scpumarada]

Took 30 robitussin long acting coughgels (450mg) at 1020p as did a friend. Friend feels it while SWIM does not feel any effects at all. SWIM takes 1200mg lithium and 5mg abilify. Also a recovering heroin addict has not used in a month not sure if that could have something to do with it. Any ideas? She has done dxm before with better luck but years ago and can't remember the meds.

 

[RobotRipping]

probably not a great idea to mix DXM with lithium or with abilify. Abilify actually uses the same enzymes that break down DXM, so if anything your trip should be prolonged and different in nature.

anyway, sometimes DXM can take 2-3 hours to kick in. You sit there forever thinking it won't hit you, then you take a bunch more only to realize the first dose you took is really starting to hit you. Do not make that mistake.

The drugs you are scripted don't have major interactions AFAIK with DXM in terms of killing the trip. Abilify may alter the nature of the dxm experience but should not inhibit it. In any case, i wouldn't mess around with DXM if you are trying to control symptoms of a mental illness, DXM can throw you for a loop and make you unstable if nothing else.

No swimming here and given DXM's dirty pharmacology i wouldn't combine anything else with it, scripted or not. Since you're on a relatively low dose of abilify you'll definitely feel the dxm, but don't dose any more or do high doses of DXM while on abilify, it may potentiate it way too much.

do not mix DXM with abilify in the future, it's not worth the risk of serotonin syndrome or extreme potentiation, even at just 5mg/day.

 

[scpumarada]

Sorry I've just seen a bunch of sites that don't let you say 'I'.

Maybe I'm just being impatient but I really just have an increased heart rate and a slight headache after a little over 3 hrs. Pupils normal.

I forgot about the serotonin syndrome thing. Oops. Probably won't do it again considering I don't feel anything anyway. I didn't take more nor do I plan to.

What does inhibit dxm? Maybe I'm overlooking something. This did happen once before kinda. I felt it but less than normal and for a much shorter time.

 

[TakeCareAndControl]

Only once has this happened to me. After a night (10PM-4AM) of many adderall, and subsequent HEAVY vodka and beer drinking, and some cocaine. Possibly one librium at the top of the night. I may have been taking 5mg Abilify daily as well. Typical uppers + alcohol crap had me thinking I was fine to do more substances at 5am. Anyway, I'm assuming all the booze plus exhaustion just deadened me. I experienced no psychedelic effects, ended up falling asleep, having no dreams, and waking up *relatively* normal. I never factored the Abilify into the equation, but maybe it also played a part.

 

[.22]

op is just trying to suggest dxm doesnt compare to heroin.. how much do u way

 

[sekio]

sometimes the robitussin gels don't burst open if you eat 20+ at a time = lame trip

better to poke holes in them first or make a disgusting robo-syrup-shot.

 

[scpumarada]

I know dxm is not heroin nothing is the same as heroin. I'm 5'8 145#.

 

[RobotRipping]

Sorry I've just seen a bunch of sites that don't let you say 'I'.

Maybe I'm just being impatient but I really just have an increased heart rate and a slight headache after a little over 3 hrs. Pupils normal.

I forgot about the serotonin syndrome thing. Oops. Probably won't do it again considering I don't feel anything anyway. I didn't take more nor do I plan to.

What does inhibit dxm? Maybe I'm overlooking something. This did happen once before kinda. I felt it but less than normal and for a much shorter time.

i'm not sure what would inhibit DXM, it's an NMDA antagonist, so i guess an NMDA agonist might do it but there aren't many of them and i wouldn't think they are used for medications but not sure.

the enzymes responsible for breaking DXM down and converting it to DXO are cyp2d6 and cyp3a4 i think. If you inhibit those enzymes you'll have a more psychedelic type trip, similar to staggering your dosing. Other than that DXM plays with serotonin but i can't think of anything in particular that kills a DXM trip and don't see why abilify would, abilify would potentiate it if anything IMO but i'm not a pharmacologist.

perhaps lithium is what did it - i'm not sure of its mechanism of action and don't have time to look into it right now but i will later. So in the end, did you trip at all? 450mg would be enough to make most people trip very hard, even if it came on slowly due to the gel caps not releasing or breaking down well. I've taken 60 gel caps at once (many times) and never had any issues.

 

[scpumarada]

Nope did not trip in the slightest. I'm pretty sure I had mild to moderate serotonin syndrome though cuz I got a headache, very irritable, hot, a little clumsy, increased heart rate, and hypomanic for a brief period. Do you just get one or the other? I would think they'd happen at the same time, tripping and the syndrome.

I've done this about 6 times maybe five years ago and took the same dose and tripped that why I tried that does this time as well.

 

[sekio]

mild to moderate serotonin syndrome

there's no such thing as "mild serotonin syndrome", you either have it or you don't (and it's NEVER described as "mild"). it sounds like the dxm was just poorly absorbed.

 

[scpumarada]

Disagree I just read a few different websites describing mild moderate and severe symptoms/cases.

 

[.22]

....c

 

[Black Rabbit of Inle]

I'm pretty sure I had mild to moderate serotonin syndrome though cuz I got a headache, very irritable, hot, a little clumsy, increased heart rate, and hypomanic for a brief period.

You don't have SS.

You wouldn't be even slightly unsure if you had it.

30 robitussin long acting coughgels

See that? Long acting capsules/caplets dissolve slowly so you don't get the entire dose at once. Your medications probably also had an effect of the trip.