Hi yall, I'll get right to the point...my girlfriend took one 15mg vyvanse over a year ago, she was a current smoker then...and said she was in high heaven that whole day. She was later prescribed adderall, still a smoker and it kept her happy all day as well. She recently changed psychs and had been given an rx for 30mg Vyvanse, the highest dose she's ever taken. She hasnt taken any meds for a few months, and quit smoking for 6 months...took her first 30mg V this morning at 8:30a with only a breakfast nutritional drink, felt pretty good an hour later...then come noon-1ish poof...happyness is gone. Is this because she isnt smoking? She smokes her ecigg but it doesnt seem to satisfy. Shes pretty disappointed and really wishes the euphoria, happyness, socialable effects would last longer, any advice on how she could acheive that?
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Vyvanse advice?
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^very creative
Don't think a 15mg vyvanse pill exists
Its a good sign - you're not supposed to get happy off it
Don't think a 15mg vyvanse pill exists
Its a good sign - you're not supposed to get happy off it
Venrak
Bluelight Crew
Euphoria, happiness and hyper sociability aren't targeted effects when it is being prescribed, so you don't have anything to worry about if your intention is to treat an illness, except that the euphoria and so on are going to be remembered and possibly revisited. In other words, don't let recreational use to take hold or else it won't be long before this treatment option is no longer effective.
@toucan: Thank you for establishing a wormhole between our subforums; I've been toying with that idea for some time now.
@toucan: Thank you for establishing a wormhole between our subforums; I've been toying with that idea for some time now.
opiatekrzy
Bluelighter
all i know is this :Vyvanse is a good upper, alot of people are under the impression that its not a stimulant amongst others or copntrolled. I find it just as euphoric as dexedrine but smoother and minimal crash
this.
razorblade*
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cause after you have adderal..you relize how shitty vyvanse is. try snorting the adderal 
WorldWarMe
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I think this goes the same for Adderall->Dexedrine. I always used to get super paranoid when I took Adderall. Loads of anxiety and a hard crash. Then I tried Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine, which is what's in 75% of Adderall). Super clean, no anxiety, highly euphoric, and essentially no crash (unless I binge). I'd never take anything with V-amp or L-amp in it again after experiencing D-amp. From what I've read, others agree with me. It seems like L-amp and V-amp cause the anxiety and extra speediness that I've come to hate from Amphetamines.cause after you have adderal..you relize how shitty vyvanse is. try snorting the adderal
tomas1242
Greenlighter
Vyvanse made me pretty irritable and I got into multiple fights on it despite regularly being a pacifist. I don't trust that drug. I think it gave me some minor heart issues too.
calebtrask
Greenlighter
Is she currently taking/eating a trypsin inhibitor? That's the enzyme that cleaves the lysine amino acid off vyvanse to turn it into d-amphetamine. I've heard anecdotal reports of this affecting the duration.
In Dec I was prescribed D-Amphetamine Salt Combo IR, I highly enjoyed how that drug made me feel...besides it being instant release and having to take multiple throughout the day. I no longer have a RX for Adderall, I've been on Vyvanse for just a few days and already had to call and ask him if I could double my dose in which he gave consent...60mg a day, and still no real euphoric effect - just speediness, feel like I can't breathe at times. Should I finish this script and wait for my next appointment (in 3 1/2 weeks) and tell him this junk aint cuttin it? Maybe I'll just call tomorrow and see what he recommends. Pretty crappy when you know what will work best for you and your psych wants to do all sorts of different shit.
My biggest thing is, I felt like I hit the lottery with my psych when he prescribed me the Vy (he can be a real dick) anyway...now I'm afraid if I tell him it isn't working, could I try Adderall...he will think I need something completely different. But he knows I was on the d amph salt combo with a previous dr, and that it worked for me...any thoughts on if he may prescribe me that in the XR version?
Venrak
Bluelight Crew
^Possible. Just be honest, that's all we can say really.
tweex
Bluelighter
The harman and norharman in cigarette smoke act as MAOIs, and increase the euphoria of dopaminergic stimulants like dextroamphetamine (the active metabolite of lisdexamfetamine) and nicotine. Same reason nicotine is not very addictive when administered by itself.
MAOIs are a bit of a dangerous combination with amphetamines though, so probably better off not smoking on vyvanse (or really smoking at all). Great on moving to e-cigs from regular tobacco.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0014299969902064
Edit: If one were trying to get euphoric as balls on an MAOI-amphetamine combination (which I don't recommend), I'd at least use a neuroprotective MAOI like Methylene Blue (and you piss green the next day as an added bonus!).
MAOIs are a bit of a dangerous combination with amphetamines though, so probably better off not smoking on vyvanse (or really smoking at all). Great on moving to e-cigs from regular tobacco.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0014299969902064
Edit: If one were trying to get euphoric as balls on an MAOI-amphetamine combination (which I don't recommend), I'd at least use a neuroprotective MAOI like Methylene Blue (and you piss green the next day as an added bonus!).
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Thanks for all your input. I called my doctor up and he wrote me a script for Adderall. Ended up getting the generic Amphetamine ER 20mg once a day. I got up to 90mg a day on Vyvanse so he has to know this dose of Adderall is too low. Oh well, took one this morning about 2 1/2 hours ago... no real stimulation, just less anxious than the vyvanse made me feel and I guess I'm pretty alert, awake... whatever. Ill speak with him at our next appt about the dose. Ohh the joys of coming to a happy medium with your psych!
sounds like your psych doctor is trying to target something like ADD or ADHD rather than have you in 'high heaven' feeling euphoric, happy, and very sociable.
weekend addiction
Bluelighter
^Haha for real. I think people first take these drugs and get the initial euphoria and extreme boost of productivity. The minute the drug is having a normal clinical effect they demand a dose increase or stronger drugs. I've been taking 15mg of ER Dexedrine a day for 2 1\2 years or so. I never feel euphoric but I do get shit done. Any stimulant has lots of side effects and I'm getting tired of them so I might try an even lower dose.
Yea...
it seems like a lot of people expect that ADD/ADHD treatment should put them in the movie 'Limitless', or at least spun on a euphoric amphetamine high.
opiatekrzy
Bluelighter
I hope ur doctors definition of having something completely diff. in mind is NOT methylphenidate (its a horrible backbone amphetamine like stimulant derived from D-amp_ with a short half life, and it acts the same exact way cocaine works on the brain, except methylphenidate has a little bit more of a longer half life/duration. or hopefully not Strattera/Effexor or Wellbutrin