Long-Term Cannabis Use May Blunt the Brain's Motivation System

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Long-term cannabis users tend to produce less dopamine, a chemical in the brain linked to motivation, a study has found.

Researchers found that dopamine levels in a part of the brain called the striatum were lower in people who smoke more cannabis and those who began taking the drug at a younger age.
They suggest this finding could explain why some cannabis users appear to lack motivation to work or pursue their normal interests.

The study, by scientists at Imperial College London, UCL and King's College London, was funded by the Medical Research Council and published in the journal Biological Psychiatry.
The researchers used PET brain imaging to look at dopamine production in the striatum of 19 regular cannabis users and 19 non-users of matching age and sex.

The cannabis users in the study had all experienced psychotic-like symptoms while smoking the drug, such as experiencing strange sensations or having bizarre thoughts like feeling as though they are being threatened by an unknown force.

The researchers expected that dopamine production might be higher in this group, since increased dopamine production has been linked with psychosis. Instead, they found the opposite effect.
The cannabis users in the study had their first experience with the drug between the ages of 12 and 18. There was a trend for lower dopamine levels in those who started earlier, and also in those who smoke more cannabis. The researchers say these findings suggest that cannabis use may be the cause of the difference in dopamine levels.

The lowest dopamine levels were seen in users who meet diagnostic criteria for cannabis abuse or dependence, raising the possibility that this measure could provide a marker of addiction severity.
Previous research has shown that cannabis users have a higher risk of mental illnesses that involve repeated episodes of psychosis, such as schizophrenia.

"It has been assumed that cannabis increases the risk of schizophrenia by inducing the same effects on the dopamine system that we see in schizophrenia, but this hasn't been studied in active cannabis users until now," said Dr Michael Bloomfield, from the Institute of Clinical Sciences at Imperial, who led the study.
"The results weren't what we expected, but they tie in with previous research on addiction, which has found that substance abusers -- people who are dependent on cocaine or amphetamine, for example -- have altered dopamine systems.

"Although we only looked at cannabis users who have had psychotic-like experiences while using the drug, we think the findings would apply to cannabis users in general, since we didn't see a stronger effect in the subjects who have more psychotic-like symptoms. This needs to be tested though.
"It could also explain the 'amotivational syndrome' which has been described in cannabis users, but whether such a syndrome exists is controversial."

Other studies have looked at dopamine release in former cannabis users and not seen differences with people who haven't taken cannabis, suggesting that the effects seen in this study are likely to be reversible.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130701081053.htm
 
Although we only looked at cannabis users who have had psychotic-like experiences while using the drug, we think the findings would apply to cannabis users in general, since we didn't see a stronger effect in the subjects who have more psychotic-like symptoms.

Or you could've unknowingly pre-selected patients whose monoamine levels were more prone to fluctuation.
 
Speculation, numbers

And the OP isn't speculation? They only studied the brains of psychotic people.

It's like doing a study on patients with chronic encephalopathy and discovering that many of them had lots of sex with cheerleaders. You can publish a paper on how frequent sex with cheerleaders may lead to chronic encephalopathy, but you'd be ignoring the more-important fact that a lot of your subjects were football players.
 
Why the hell are they trying to compare people who have psychotic like symptoms while smoking cannabis (watch out folks... a whole 19 people!) with normal people who don't smoke cannabis?

It would be interesting to have a much larger group size, and add to or combine the above variables with the following variables: people who don't smoke and have experienced psychotic like symptoms, and people who smoke cannabis and have not experienced psychotic like symptoms.
 
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It would be interesting to have a much larger group size, and add to or combine the above variables with the following variables: people who don't smoke and have experienced psychotic like symptoms, and people who smoke cannabis and have not experienced psychotic like symptoms.

I'm also interested in how many cheerleaders have psychotic episodes after having sex with football players who smoke cannabis.
 
Regarding the thread title I can only say no shit Sherlock. My motivation levels when engaged in daily smoking of cannabis decrease & likewise increase when I cease smoking daily.
 
And the OP isn't speculation? They only studied the brains of psychotic people.

It's like doing a study on patients with chronic encephalopathy and discovering that many of them had lots of sex with cheerleaders. You can publish a paper on how frequent sex with cheerleaders may lead to chronic encephalopathy, but you'd be ignoring the more-important fact that a lot of your subjects were football players.

I'd argue that every weed experience is psychotic in nature no matter what
 
every cannabis experience is not a psychotic one lol that's as silly as arguing that mescaline's effects are like being a schizophrenic (which has been said plenty of times by the medical community).

that's an absolute statement as well, which just shows you are trolling or ignorant. If you're going to argue for an absolute statement you better hope it's analytically true.

how do you supplement low dopamine as a result of cannabis use? oh yes, you go on stimulants. There problem solved. If your dopamine levels are low, you qualify for a diagnosis for ADD, take your d-amp, mixed amphetamine salts and other stimulants and be on your way.
 
every cannabis experience is not a psychotic one lol that's as silly as arguing that mescaline's effects are like being a schizophrenic (which has been said plenty of times by the medical community).

you are trolling or ignorant.

For agreeing with "the medical community"?
 
if you really think cannabis and psychedelics mimic the effects of schizophrenia then yes. They (medical community as a whole) are incorrect in that belief. The reason why they (generally) say this is that they actually haven't experienced the drugs themselves, in most cases. That's just my theory though.

I can't even smoke cannabis anymore because of anxiety/paranoia issues, but by no means do my experiences with it ever come close to what i experienced with drug induced psychosis. Try staying up for a week on speed and blacking in/out on benzos near the tail end of the week (maybe 2 weeks for the strong minded) and record the whole thing on video/audio, that's about as close to mimicking schizophrenia/psychosis as you are going to get with drugs, the positive effects of schizophrenia anyway.
 
Isn't the broad definition of psychosis 'to lose touch with reality'

I don't usually lose touch with reality when I'm stoned. Might be a bit happier and quite relaxed/euphoric but I don't think that's psychotic.
 
I didn't read all the posts, sorry if this has been said. But,

Chicken or the Egg??? Is it that people who are naturally unmotivated/lazy flock towards marijuana or does marijuana cause this???

I have to assume these tests were not done through the patients lives like a good study should be done, no, what probably happened is they took X amount of stoners and looked at them next to X amount of non-stoners. I have never done a study, I don't know who these imaginary X's are... but I can tell you what the outcome of this study would be... It would show that a drastic number more people who use cannabis have this demotivation or lack of dopamine. Is that because they smoke pot, or do they smoke pot subconsciously because of this?

/painfully right. ;)
 
Appeal to authority is a fallacy!!!

Absolutely true! It is the weakest form of argumentation, used by sheep to avoid thinking and simply continue their sheepish lives.

Chicken or the Egg??? Is it that people who are naturally unmotivated/lazy flock towards marijuana or does marijuana cause this???
Yes, yes, yes.
 
I'm a living proof of this, weed isn't harmless, it is quite mild, but the stories about how it can make one unmotivated aren't total BS. I've finished my BA at 29 years old because from 18 to 25 all I cared about was getting stoned everyday and do nothing but play video games....hedonism leads to apathy, it's not really just the weed.

As far as Ho Chi Minh and his retarded ramblings, one can take comfort that this thinly veiled troll is temporarily banned, I remember how he used to equate a couple of benzodiazepines to equal irreversible brain damage...he probably has no problems with Zyprexa and other expensive big pharma drugs.

I suggest he reads Anarchy Evolution by Greg Graffin, especially the first chapter..The Problem With Authority...
 
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