I've seen people roll 2 times in a row but the comedown was so horrible, most of the time they would do 3 times redose that makes like 6 redoses in 2 days, and about 600mg of MDMA, they were fucked for 2 weeks completely. While i only rolled once and drank alcohol the 2nd day i was back on ma feet in 3 days.
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So how do people explain benders in Ibiza...
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I know what you're getting at, and the reason is that this is a harm reduction website and as a result I think;
a) Most users err on the side of caution.
b) A large proportion of users find this place AFTER breaking themselves.
In reality some people can get away with week long benders, but on this website, it simply isn't recommended. We all know it's not a good idea.
Ive been Ibiza 6 times, first when I was 16, and ive been every year since, this year my 7th hopefully.
How do people get by? Well if im going for 10 days, I will probally have about 6-7 times when I will be taking MDMA, they will be at the nights when im going to a club.
First few nights all you need is MDMA for in the club, as your seratonin gets less though I find ket helps, always. Along with coke, 2cb or whatever else I can get my hands on, always MDMA though for a starter.
Usually what I try and do within 10 days is 1 night out going to a club on MDMA, next night just out drinking, next night on the MDMA etc... but it dosent always work like that as people who you want to see may be on a mon, tues, wed so you do 3 days on the run on MDMA. Of course you are going to feel a little frazzled when all you have done for 10 days is drink heavily daily, take drugs etc and get fuck all sleep and not eat.
People "get on" by not really thinking or worrying to an extreme like 3/4 of this forum, so after like 4 days of MDMA, when your in the sunshine and on holiday cant really get a bad comedown, just have a little nap and get back on it again the next day. Cant be worried about that kind of shit when your on holiday.
As laugh said though, some people cant hack it and will crumble, others can easily. Everyone is doing is though, no one really goes and says "oh im thinking about my brain, so im only going to do MDMA once, incase of blah blah." Just dosent really happen, in the party atmosphere I guess.
The key is SLEEP though, get sleep and I feel almost 100% the next day, get 0 sleep and the next day is horrible.
How do people get by? Well if im going for 10 days, I will probally have about 6-7 times when I will be taking MDMA, they will be at the nights when im going to a club.
First few nights all you need is MDMA for in the club, as your seratonin gets less though I find ket helps, always. Along with coke, 2cb or whatever else I can get my hands on, always MDMA though for a starter.
Usually what I try and do within 10 days is 1 night out going to a club on MDMA, next night just out drinking, next night on the MDMA etc... but it dosent always work like that as people who you want to see may be on a mon, tues, wed so you do 3 days on the run on MDMA. Of course you are going to feel a little frazzled when all you have done for 10 days is drink heavily daily, take drugs etc and get fuck all sleep and not eat.
People "get on" by not really thinking or worrying to an extreme like 3/4 of this forum, so after like 4 days of MDMA, when your in the sunshine and on holiday cant really get a bad comedown, just have a little nap and get back on it again the next day. Cant be worried about that kind of shit when your on holiday.
As laugh said though, some people cant hack it and will crumble, others can easily. Everyone is doing is though, no one really goes and says "oh im thinking about my brain, so im only going to do MDMA once, incase of blah blah." Just dosent really happen, in the party atmosphere I guess.
The key is SLEEP though, get sleep and I feel almost 100% the next day, get 0 sleep and the next day is horrible.
augustaB
Bluelighter
I'm guessing massive amounts of bright sunlight help too.
Stoned Immaculate
Bluelighter
Hey if people like Mendo can get away with a week long binger and their biggest worry is catching enough zzz's before the next night, then there's nothing wrong with that. You're a lucky one.
But a lot of factors come into play here for each individual...body, brain, lifestyle, doses, etc. In the case of these forums though and I don't think I'm alone on this, it's a bummer to hear yet another person coming in here because they tried to party like this and 5 months later they're still feeling like shit.
When it comes to ingesting chemicals, everyone should be playing it safe so they can continue to have a good time for years to come!
But a lot of factors come into play here for each individual...body, brain, lifestyle, doses, etc. In the case of these forums though and I don't think I'm alone on this, it's a bummer to hear yet another person coming in here because they tried to party like this and 5 months later they're still feeling like shit.
When it comes to ingesting chemicals, everyone should be playing it safe so they can continue to have a good time for years to come!
drancer
Bluelighter
The first night is always the best; after that every subsequent night you are just pushing shit uphill IMO.. its like trying to whack off immediately after blowing a load, it just doesnt feel as good..
op, there's a lot of hearsay too, don't forget.
in all drug cultures there are people who have access to more drugs than everybody else, are always talking about what drugs they have and what drugs they'll be getting, talk constantly about how they just did this poly-drug combination and how, tomorrow, they're going to try that polydrug combination, their trips are always stronger, better and longer-lasting than everybody else's, etc.
do you really think what they're saying is 100% accurate 100% of the time?
alasdair
in all drug cultures there are people who have access to more drugs than everybody else, are always talking about what drugs they have and what drugs they'll be getting, talk constantly about how they just did this poly-drug combination and how, tomorrow, they're going to try that polydrug combination, their trips are always stronger, better and longer-lasting than everybody else's, etc.
do you really think what they're saying is 100% accurate 100% of the time?
alasdair
op, there's a lot of hearsay too, don't forget.
in all drug cultures there are people who have access to more drugs than everybody else, are always talking about what drugs they have and what drugs they'll be getting, talk constantly about how they just did this poly-drug combination and how, tomorrow, they're going to try that polydrug combination, their trips are always stronger, better and longer-lasting than everybody else's, etc.
do you really think what they're saying is 100% accurate 100% of the time?
alasdair
I took 130mg of molly and I am the 84%, explain my actions. I am coming down forever and eternally I will feel like this. Welcome to the world wide web, where bad people will tell you facts that are sometimes true, but not always.
^ q.e.d.
ok, it's friday. i have some awesome mdma and mda and ketamine and 2c-this and 2c-that and acid and shrooms and dmt and...and...and... i'm going to do them all tonight and it's going to be awesome. i mean, last time it was a 12 out of 10 but this time it's going to be a 14 out of 10 and last for 4 days and blah blah blah.
alasdair
ok, it's friday. i have some awesome mdma and mda and ketamine and 2c-this and 2c-that and acid and shrooms and dmt and...and...and... i'm going to do them all tonight and it's going to be awesome. i mean, last time it was a 12 out of 10 but this time it's going to be a 14 out of 10 and last for 4 days and blah blah blah.
alasdair
Folley
Bluelighter
^ Forrealz? ME TOO!
I'd probably leave out the shrooms if you have LSD, DMT and K but hey; more power to ya!
I'd probably leave out the shrooms if you have LSD, DMT and K but hey; more power to ya!
^ q.e.d.
ok, it's friday. i have some awesome mdma and mda and ketamine and 2c-this and 2c-that and acid and shrooms and dmt and...and...and... i'm going to do them all tonight and it's going to be awesome. i mean, last time it was a 12 out of 10 but this time it's going to be a 14 out of 10 and last for 4 days and blah blah blah.
alasdair
This is a harm reduction forum....................Think of the long term comedown................think of the kids.
Folley
Bluelighter
lol.. well, now that we've all had our fun, let's get back to the question at hand: Why do people think it's OK to take ridiculous amounts of drugs at a festival, but not at home or any other setting?
So far, the answer seems to be "Everyone else is doing it!"
So far, the answer seems to be "Everyone else is doing it!"
Folley
Bluelighter
Well, sunlight is important for Serotonin Production.
So why not go to the beach with a boombox and all your friends and binge for a week straight?
So why not go to the beach with a boombox and all your friends and binge for a week straight?
i do....in Ibiza (Bora Bora beach bar in Playa Den Bossa) Spend a good few days there every holiday. Djs Playing from 12:00 - whenever the night stops so no need to the boombox.
The Beaches in Scotland are freezing 95% of the year.
^ beaches? scotland? lol.
alasdair
they don't (necessarily). there are as many use models as there users...
alasdair
I don't think that's the point the OP is trying to make. I think the point the OP was making was that if doing it twice in a month is so dangerous how do people manage doing it for a week straight. Nothing to do with being at home/festivals/anywhere in fact even focussing on being in Ibiza is kinda missing the point, it's just used as an example of people going on massive benders.
different people react to different drugs differently but, generally speaking, anybody doing mdma on a bender for a week is going to find it harder and harder to get high as the week goes on, they're going to be taking more and more mdma for less and less effect and they're going to pay the price in terms of comedown.
and, as i indicated, there's likely to be fabrication and embellishment in some of the stories you hear...
alasdair
^ q.e.d.
ok, it's friday. i have some awesome mdma and mda and ketamine and 2c-this and 2c-that and acid and shrooms and dmt and...and...and... i'm going to do them all tonight and it's going to be awesome. i mean, last time it was a 12 out of 10 but this time it's going to be a 14 out of 10 and last for 4 days and blah blah blah.
alasdair
You are doing it all wrong baby. Just come take some Ghb with me.
We will practice harm reduction.
(Insert Lionel Richie).