Jackass keeps OD'ing in my ride.

[JunkieDays]

So, my boy that I've been friends with since highschool has recently started a new trend.
That trend being "OD in D's vehicles & Don't give any fucks!"
This hasn't been an issue in the past at all. He just recently started doing it. So far hes done it about 4-5 times now.
Everytime I take him out to cop dope in my ride he ends up doing way too many bags, falls asleep / nods out in my ride & then it's a motherfucker to get him out.
This has caused me a few problems.. So I told him straight up, I'm not taking his dumb ass out to cop anymore. & Of course he responds negatively & now we're on bad terms.
He swears the next time he sees me he's going to kick my ass, but I'm not worried about it. He's frail and can't fight at all.

Has anyone ever experienced this kind of issue before? & What did you do about it?
He pays me to take him out there & it's a godsend when I'm stuck in a rut & can't cop because of financial issues.
But on the other hand, he's becoming a nuisance & his clock is tickin'. I don't want to get involved with the law or EMT's.

 

[Mysterie]

it sounds like your both placing less and less value on the friendship and more value on dope

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

If you care about the motherfucker, next time you see him enjoying a good nod, slap him around and rough him up. Make sure he goes from nodland to "fuck I'm alert stop beatin me" and speak some truth his Dad should have told him. Rinse and repeat, if required.

 

[JunkieDays]

it sounds like your both placing less and less value on the friendship and more value on dope

That's true, & unfortunately it has led to the demise of our friendship. We're not on good terms anymore, however, last time this happend he came crawling back.. lookin' for a ride to go out & cop again.
I needed the money & he needed his dope, so you can figure how that one played out..

Btw - I've tried talking sense into him. He's a father, and I told him, I care about him & I don't want to see his kid become fatherless because of one bad decision.
It seems like he doesn't care, and there's not much I can do. He's the type of person who will do what he wants no matter what.

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

Would he ever go for methadone or subs if pushed hard?

If not, best you can do is get him to take LSD/shrooms/molly and hope he has a revelation.

 

[Tommyboy]

What about making a rule of not getting high in the car? Me and my friends have a rule of not carrying any paraphernalia with us when we go to cop, so if he is an IV user than that rule would take care of the issue. Just tell him that you don't want to have anything illegal on you when you go to cop since it would make it so much easier to get caught if you get pulled over, and he should respect that.

Then again it might just result in you starting a thread next week saying "jackass friend keeps OD'ing in my house."

 

[95Land]

^The no paraphernalia in the car idea is good. I think the mistake some people are making in this thread is thinking you can reason with anyone and everyone. Especially once you've copped.
I had this one fucking kid I'd pick up with. I knew him forever and he's a decent kid. Plus he would get a lot and I'd get a large slice off it.
Each time I'd tell him to wait on it. Wait till we get to a safe spot. Sometimes he would, sometimes I'd look over and he'd be comatose. He'd get it prepped all surreptitious. He'd be comatose to the point where I'd be hitting/pushing him or I'd be having his girl smacking him cause he looked like he dropped out. Fuckin moron.
I told him if he kept doing it I couldn't be responsible and I'd drop his ass on the sidewalk and he could try to reason a bus or cab. I never would have followed through on it for obvious reasons. But the threat seemed to help a little. For a while.
I don't know. I feel your pain. Even if you tell everyone no rigs in the car, you know there's gonna be that one person that decides they're gonna stick a kit in their shoe.
Best advice is to just not take him if he really cannot wait.

 

[treezy z]

you did what i would do, keep him the fuck out your car.

 

[JunkieDays]

^The no paraphernalia in the car idea is good. I think the mistake some people are making in this thread is thinking you can reason with anyone and everyone. Especially once you've copped.
I had this one fucking kid I'd pick up with. I knew him forever and he's a decent kid. Plus he would get a lot and I'd get a large slice off it.
Each time I'd tell him to wait on it. Wait till we get to a safe spot. Sometimes he would, sometimes I'd look over and he'd be comatose. He'd get it prepped all surreptitious. He'd be comatose to the point where I'd be hitting/pushing him or I'd be having his girl smacking him cause he looked like he dropped out. Fuckin moron.
I told him if he kept doing it I couldn't be responsible and I'd drop his ass on the sidewalk and he could try to reason a bus or cab. I never would have followed through on it for obvious reasons. But the threat seemed to help a little. For a while.
I don't know. I feel your pain. Even if you tell everyone no rigs in the car, you know there's gonna be that one person that decides they're gonna stick a kit in their shoe.
Best advice is to just not take him if he really cannot wait.

Funny you mention the kit in the shoe, cause everytime I go to the hood & it's hot out that's exactly where my kit ends up..
I'm not one to make rules, but even if I did he would snort the shit. He isn't a consistent IV'er like I am.
& Trust me, I've wanted to drop this idiot off at the curb many times, but I just can't bring myself to do it. I may be a junkie, but this junkie has morals.

 

[JunkieDays]

you did what i would do, keep him the fuck out your car.

We're not on good terms anymore. But I know sooner or later he's going to ring me up and I'm going to say fuck it & take his stupid ass out there again because he pays for my shit.
Sigh..

 

[cj]

We're not on good terms anymore. But I know sooner or later he's going to ring me up and I'm going to say fuck it & take his stupid ass out there again because he pays for my shit.
Sigh..

Not much you can do about it honestly. But he will eventually fuck up and need medical assidtance. I dont know where your from but of there are needle exchanges try to get some narcan. You hit him with thst once and he will think teice about overdosing with you around

 

[The Dr]

Has anyone ever experienced this kind of issue before? & What did you do about it?
He pays me to take him out there & it's a godsend when I'm stuck in a rut & can't cop because of financial issues.
But on the other hand, he's becoming a nuisance & his clock is tickin'. I don't want to get involved with the law or EMT's.

One time I took my friend out to cop, but he told me he wasn't doing it and was saving it. About 15-20 minutes go by and I'm confused as fuck. I then look in the rear view mirror and see a crowd of people around a kid that appears to be dancing. Well that kid dancing was my friend, he wasn't dancing he was od'ing and couldn't breath. Random people were starting to call 911 until I got out of the car and took action of the situation. This situation was scary as fuck because I had crap in my car, if I wouldn't of saw him shit would of went down and my ass would of gone to jail.

 

[Niggasbebuggin]

Would he ever go for methadone or subs if pushed hard?

If not, best you can do is get him to take LSD/shrooms/molly and hope he has a revelation.

honestly I think the "do more drugs" option is way out the picture, just considering this friend's already fragile state. Imho this drug frenzy of other substances will just start a cycle for more drugs if you look at it in an addicts perspective. Because honestly, when I used to do heroin and I would take ecstasy I'd want it just as bad if not more when I started coming down off the MDMA.

 

[95Land]

Funny you mention the kit in the shoe, cause everytime I go to the hood & it's hot out that's exactly where my kit ends up..
I'm not one to make rules, but even if I did he would snort the shit. He isn't a consistent IV'er like I am.
Trust me, I've wanted to drop this idiot off at the curb many times, but I just can't bring myself to do it. I may be a junkie, but this junkie has morals.

It was just a threat to attempt to get his dumb ass in line. I never woulda actually done it. I'd a been terrified.
As far as the shoe kit, I'd do the same thing. Knowing full well that if I got grabbed I'd be taking my shoes and socks off.
But still.... I'd stick that shit in my socks. Those were (not) the days. Be safe.

 

[Khadijah]

Funny you mention the kit in the shoe, cause everytime I go to the hood & it's hot out that's exactly where my kit ends up..

man thats a horrible place to put it...I know you dont think thats the spot. after the pockets, around here the first place they look is the shoe, cant imagine camden boys do it any different...

Anyways...The poster who suggested feedin him a bunch of psychedelics...Oh the sweet naieve people who believe you can force a revelation. More like "set somebody up for a really bad trip that scares the piss out of them and then they will be afraid to ever dose again at a time in the future when it might possibly be able to do them some good"..but thats just my thoughts on it.

I always lol to myself though when i hear people say that, like (not to the poster who mentioned it in particular, but just some really die hard hippie psych heads) they really think its the answer to everything. dont know what to do about whether or not to quit your job, take some shrooms and find out. really bad shit is happening in your life, well, drop some acid and go 'search' for the answer.

dont getme wrong cuz I have felt some amazing things when tripping and i know the power it has to possibly change how you think but that shit aint some kind of get well quick fix, and IMO feeding some heavy duty psychs to someone in a very bad place in life and mentally, in the depths of a heroin addiction where its just all darkness in the heart and soul all the time that sounds like a recipe for a bad situation to me.

 

[JunkieDays]

man thats a horrible place to put it...I know you dont think thats the spot. after the pockets, around here the first place they look is the shoe, cant imagine camden boys do it any different...

Anyways...The poster who suggested feedin him a bunch of psychedelics...Oh the sweet naieve people who believe you can force a revelation. More like "set somebody up for a really bad trip that scares the piss out of them and then they will be afraid to ever dose again at a time in the future when it might possibly be able to do them some good"..but thats just my thoughts on it.

I always lol to myself though when i hear people say that, like (not to the poster who mentioned it in particular, but just some really die hard hippie psych heads) they really think its the answer to everything. dont know what to do about whether or not to quit your job, take some shrooms and find out. really bad shit is happening in your life, well, drop some acid and go 'search' for the answer.

dont getme wrong cuz I have felt some amazing things when tripping and i know the power it has to possibly change how you think but that shit aint some kind of get well quick fix, and IMO feeding some heavy duty psychs to someone in a very bad place in life and mentally, in the depths of a heroin addiction where its just all darkness in the heart and soul all the time that sounds like a recipe for a bad situation to me.

LOL! Yeah, I hear you, man. Personally, I wouldn't waste my time or money on psych's unless they were for me & I'm not even in the position to be doing them at this point.
You're right about the shoe search. Camden boys will search your shit thoroughly, but first they have to arrest you & take you in. & Unless they find dope or a needle on you (They won't, they need to do a full 'strip' search in order to take your shoes off.) So yeah, that's why I keep it in my shoe instead of my pockets. My World industries shoes have a nice little pocket in the sides so it keeps the kit secure, & I won't poke myself if I gotta move around.

Anyways, feeding my friend pysch's .... no, totally bad idea. He's not in the right mind or condition to 'have a revelation'

Not much you can do about it honestly. But he will eventually fuck up and need medical assidtance. I dont know where your from but of there are needle exchanges try to get some narcan. You hit him with thst once and he will think teice about overdosing with you around

Excellent idea. If I can get my hands on some narcan, then I won't have to worry about some jackass OD'ing in my ride.
God knows the only time I don't have narcan on me he'd OD.. That's my luck.

One time I took my friend out to cop, but he told me he wasn't doing it and was saving it. About 15-20 minutes go by and I'm confused as fuck. I then look in the rear view mirror and see a crowd of people around a kid that appears to be dancing. Well that kid dancing was my friend, he wasn't dancing he was od'ing and couldn't breath. Random people were starting to call 911 until I got out of the car and took action of the situation. This situation was scary as fuck because I had crap in my car, if I wouldn't of saw him shit would of went down and my ass would of gone to jail.

So, what exactly did you do in order to save his ass?

 

[95Land]

A friend of mine had a shoe with a false bottom. Not quite as slick as the guy from Trainspotting but not far off.
Every person I ever rode with that had spent time in prison(and some who hadn't) had no issue cramming their bundles up their ass or in females cases that other slot.
I suppose that's the safest spot(s) I just never had the stomach for it.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

^A bun up the ass really isn't that unpleasant. Just don't leave it up there longer than you have to or, erm, bad things begin to happen to the bags lol.

get some narcan. You hit him with thst once and he will think teice about overdosing with you around

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[95Land]

^I think my issue with it was that I was usually the middleman in most these trips.
So, in order to get my bundle or two I'd have to wait while the stash was extracted, cleaned, taken out of plastic..... I was acutely aware I was shooting dope that was previously up some kids ass.
But, I suppose knowing what most of us know about how some of these drugs are shipped/transported around in general, I shouldn't be too concerned.
I would imagine leaving it in for too long could be pretty catastrophic. Ugh. Haha.

 

[Toz]

I have a friend who uses during car rides. If he likes to inject during his ride home, I do not mind. But if you get in MY car, you agree to MY rules. The only rule being is you don't get high in my car, period. I don't give a rats ass about if you are in withdrawal or whatever, you wait untill you get home just like everyone else, including me. If that doesn't suit you, you can literally, go take walk.

Never put up with risks because of others ignorance/stupidity. I've learnt this the hard way.