shortjazzdude
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I've noticed it happens more with Indica strains. When you start to come down off the high you get quite drowsy. Why does this happen?
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Why does cannabis make you drowsy when it starts to wear off
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I think thc has a shorter half life than cbd so it would make sense from that perspective.
Cuz you're killin' brain cells, bro. Less brain cells = drowsiness. There's not enough of 'em after you smoke to do all the basic shit they normally would, so the ones you still have left get overwhelmed and, as a result, everything slows down.
Jackeh
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http://healthpsych.psy.vanderbilt.edu/2009/MarijuanaBrain.htm There you go.
Apparently cannabis can actually promote cell growth and is neuroprotective.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/03/20/researchers-study-neuroprotective-properties-in-cannabis/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurogenesis#Effects_of_cannabinoids
Why would you come onto a harm reduction forum and spout unwarranted bullshit like that?
Apparently cannabis can actually promote cell growth and is neuroprotective.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/03/20/researchers-study-neuroprotective-properties-in-cannabis/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurogenesis#Effects_of_cannabinoids
Why would you come onto a harm reduction forum and spout unwarranted bullshit like that?
You're good at research, Jackeh. Look at the unique characteristics of my post and research it's/their significance. Until then, you haven't proven me wrong, love:
http://tools.niehs.nih.gov/portfolio/index.cfm/portfolio/grantDetail/grant_number/R01ES014613
Seriously, though, research the stuff I talked about in that first sentence. I trust your mind's sharp enough to notice something so blatantly obvious. Until then (and in my eyes), you're making a fool of yourself by treating the comment as you have. I'm trying something new here and I was hoping everybody here wasn't completely ignorant of the formatting...
Oh well, at least dan88 knows.
http://tools.niehs.nih.gov/portfolio/index.cfm/portfolio/grantDetail/grant_number/R01ES014613
sample of article said:
Seriously, though, research the stuff I talked about in that first sentence. I trust your mind's sharp enough to notice something so blatantly obvious. Until then (and in my eyes), you're making a fool of yourself by treating the comment as you have. I'm trying something new here and I was hoping everybody here wasn't completely ignorant of the formatting...
Oh well, at least dan88 knows.
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Those who survive mortality and morbidity with marijuana, are doomed to have delayed neurological impairments! Oh noe! That almost sounds like being high!
YOU need to prove that thc specifically kills brain cells you Jibult'n malarkey spewer
YOU need to prove that thc specifically kills brain cells you Jibult'n malarkey spewer
JESUS CHRIST.
THE BLUE IS THE ANSWER. FIGURE OUT WHY THE FONT WAS BLUE AND YOU'LL ALL HAVE SOLVED THE HARDEST PUZZLE YOU'VE EVER FACED, IM SURE, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING, NOTHING PUZZLING ABOUT MY POST.
CHRIST.
/capslock
....and psyke? Thanks for verbing my username and all but I don't recall a single post of yours that actually contributed to the collective knowledge and/or well-being on bluelight. Have you ever or have you just accumulated 500+ posts by misunderstanding the posts you directly reply to?
In response to your request for proof: THC is a by-product of cannabis combustion, as is smoke. Smoke is inherently harmful to every single god damn cell in your body, regardless of what causes the combustion that releases the smoke. Your request still hasn't proven me wrong, despite how completely off the mark I am with my initial response to this thread I considered kind of retarded in the first place (OH! ANOTHER CLUE ABOUT THE BLUE!). In other words, it's not THC that kills brain cells-- it's the medium that's carrying the THC to your brain cells that's responsible.
Final edit: I'm actually amazed that I'm arguing something so effectively even though I started off with a premise I know to be wrong. I've managed to denigrate the position into one that is truthful and proven however, and I commend my skills in rhetoric as a result.
super final edit:
Notice I said nothing about cannabis smoke or THC in this post. Just smoke... simply, smoke.
THE BLUE IS THE ANSWER. FIGURE OUT WHY THE FONT WAS BLUE AND YOU'LL ALL HAVE SOLVED THE HARDEST PUZZLE YOU'VE EVER FACED, IM SURE, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING, NOTHING PUZZLING ABOUT MY POST.
CHRIST.
/capslock
....and psyke? Thanks for verbing my username and all but I don't recall a single post of yours that actually contributed to the collective knowledge and/or well-being on bluelight. Have you ever or have you just accumulated 500+ posts by misunderstanding the posts you directly reply to?
In response to your request for proof: THC is a by-product of cannabis combustion, as is smoke. Smoke is inherently harmful to every single god damn cell in your body, regardless of what causes the combustion that releases the smoke. Your request still hasn't proven me wrong, despite how completely off the mark I am with my initial response to this thread I considered kind of retarded in the first place (OH! ANOTHER CLUE ABOUT THE BLUE!). In other words, it's not THC that kills brain cells-- it's the medium that's carrying the THC to your brain cells that's responsible.
Final edit: I'm actually amazed that I'm arguing something so effectively even though I started off with a premise I know to be wrong. I've managed to denigrate the position into one that is truthful and proven however, and I commend my skills in rhetoric as a result.
super final edit:
jibbs said:
Notice I said nothing about cannabis smoke or THC in this post. Just smoke... simply, smoke.
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Jackeh
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Took me a while, but I just realised. Sorry for snapping so quickly, you are indeed right that smoke causes a lot of damage, but I'm confused as to why the blue text was significant?
rave_itsrealfun!!!
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If it is the smoke that causes comedown slowness, then why do I get it the worst from the Volcano? I can hardly see what I am inhaling, yet it burns me out the most in the end because it gets the most thc in my head. Receptor downregulation is a side effect that you get after smoking weed and being high for a couple of hours, and this is where the burnout/lethargy/brain-feel-like-mush-feeling comes from. It is from being stoned for too long a time, without giving yourself any sort of break to recover. If you don't believe me, then smoke another joint two hours after you get high. You won't get anywhere near as high as the first time, unless you had already burnt yourself out to begin with.
In my experience, it is wise to accept that the cannabis experience comes with a down after it. The only way to get rid of it is to smoke more weed, or to endure the burnout that comes after the drug stimulation. A lot of regular stoners get a bit anxious/sketchy when this starts to happen, and try to get more high as a result, even though their cannabinoid receptors arn't ready for it yet. It is better in the long run to endure the down, because your next hit will be a top notch head trip instead of a smoke that is pleasant but hardly noticeable cognitively to someone who has just recently been, or presently is stoned.
As for the cannabis smoke itself killing brain cells - I'm sure that is true, but I think it is negligible and irrelevant... pretty sure that with smoke it is the lungs to worry about. I invested in a vaporizer for the sake of my lungs. Coughing or sneezing also kills a few brain cells here or there, not too worried about it. I regularly feel stupid and useless in life for a few hours after I overdo it with the pot, and this is something that I can avoid if I do not overstimulate myself with cannabinoids too frequently. But it is not something that I can avoid completely if I still want to use the holy herb, because it is the flip side of getting lifted, and if you arn't prepared to deal with a comedown then getting high might become a problem for you.
Jibult: there is something puzzling about your posts though. You come across as really egotistical, pompous, boastful and aggressive, it sounds like you don't smoke enough weed and are out to prove your intelligence and dominance over others on this forum, and are possibly on crack! You took a position that would clearly initiate ego responses and then started putting others down. I was really turned off by your posts which led me to write this. I think your posts here are lame and intentional ego flames.
In my experience, it is wise to accept that the cannabis experience comes with a down after it. The only way to get rid of it is to smoke more weed, or to endure the burnout that comes after the drug stimulation. A lot of regular stoners get a bit anxious/sketchy when this starts to happen, and try to get more high as a result, even though their cannabinoid receptors arn't ready for it yet. It is better in the long run to endure the down, because your next hit will be a top notch head trip instead of a smoke that is pleasant but hardly noticeable cognitively to someone who has just recently been, or presently is stoned.
As for the cannabis smoke itself killing brain cells - I'm sure that is true, but I think it is negligible and irrelevant... pretty sure that with smoke it is the lungs to worry about. I invested in a vaporizer for the sake of my lungs. Coughing or sneezing also kills a few brain cells here or there, not too worried about it. I regularly feel stupid and useless in life for a few hours after I overdo it with the pot, and this is something that I can avoid if I do not overstimulate myself with cannabinoids too frequently. But it is not something that I can avoid completely if I still want to use the holy herb, because it is the flip side of getting lifted, and if you arn't prepared to deal with a comedown then getting high might become a problem for you.
Jibult: there is something puzzling about your posts though. You come across as really egotistical, pompous, boastful and aggressive, it sounds like you don't smoke enough weed and are out to prove your intelligence and dominance over others on this forum, and are possibly on crack! You took a position that would clearly initiate ego responses and then started putting others down. I was really turned off by your posts which led me to write this. I think your posts here are lame and intentional ego flames.
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That is a really interesting point & one I consider often. I find the best way to smoke is to rip a couple of good bowls & enjoy the high for a while. When sobered up completely have a few more good bowls etc. Unfortunately I tend to rip a couple of bowls & repeat every 45 minutes until I pass out several hours later. If I smoke say 4 bowls & then stop I end up feeling really "dregged out" & need a sleep within a few hours or I just feel sluggish. A couple of hours sleep & I am right as rain.
I think I see what Jibult was getting at
Lady Codone
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It's not the smoke. I get even more drowsy from eating it.
Weed stimulates the mind while relaxing the body, at least for me. Like kratom, it has dual effects. The drowsiness is just a normal side effect for some people. I personally HATE feeling tired so I usually avoid weed altogether during the day. Even when I take stimulants with my weed, the comedown still sucks.
Smoke is not "good" for you by a long shot, but there's no reason to believe it's directly neurotoxic. Tobacco smoke constricts blood vessels, which is the polar opposite of what weed smoke does. THC is a vasodilator, which would help MORE blood get to the brain (if anything). Oxygen deprivation caused by holding your hits in might be a different story. But the same thing could happen while swimming or diving.
Weed stimulates the mind while relaxing the body, at least for me. Like kratom, it has dual effects. The drowsiness is just a normal side effect for some people. I personally HATE feeling tired so I usually avoid weed altogether during the day. Even when I take stimulants with my weed, the comedown still sucks.
Smoke is not "good" for you by a long shot, but there's no reason to believe it's directly neurotoxic. Tobacco smoke constricts blood vessels, which is the polar opposite of what weed smoke does. THC is a vasodilator, which would help MORE blood get to the brain (if anything). Oxygen deprivation caused by holding your hits in might be a different story. But the same thing could happen while swimming or diving.
le sigh
well thank you, Lady Codone, for taking the time to think through a "problem" and compose a well-written post that thoroughly debunks an initial sarcastic reply.
Sarcastic Blue
well thank you, Lady Codone, for taking the time to think through a "problem" and compose a well-written post that thoroughly debunks an initial sarcastic reply.
Sarcastic Blue
rave_itsrealfun!!!
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Dude, when I am smoking a little weed life is pretty intense. I'm enduring soaring psychedelic cannabis highs that end up being pretty self confrontational, and the comedown/withdrawal effects wear me out after a while. Plus I'm eating less food and not sleeping as well...
When I am smoking a lot of weed, life is bliss. I get really slow, and I don't really go anywhere, but I am quite giggly/smiley, and the simplicity of my thinking actually facilitates spiritual insight and is more down-to-earth, or natural, than the typical human beings these days who have completely lost touch with reality. It's important to have those chill days man, everyone can use a good break from reality.
Never knew that but then again that would have required some form of effort on my behalf & I was way too drowsy to do anything
I didn't read the whole thread but it's blatantly obvious Jibult was fucking around because I remember teachers and parents used to tell me it killed brain cells when I was younger and I researched it and it said no...hahaha....I just read the comment ride under his and it was like "NO IT DOESNT" I'm like OBV.
Man I'm really stoned right now
Man I'm really stoned right now
the use of grass causes a dopamine release.. what happens after a dopamine release... crash.. only part of the picture but a good place to start.