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% of pain management patients that abuse and/or sell their scripts?

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Phat5o

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in america of course.

what's your guess?

i hear of people online talking about they don't but i'm inclined to believe that 50% of those people are just saying this to make them feel better about what they do ?

i mean, i'm sure their is a good amount people out there.

my guess would be in the 50 - 70% range. what do yall think?
 
Would neve have sold my script! Too much pain. Answer your question, impossible to know but there seems to be more n more so like 60or morei guess.
 
I never would have sold mine. Not even a consideration. People that sell are probably mostly POS who scammed the whole process. If you are in pain and addicted, you have no reason to sell. Maybe 5%?

As far as abuse? Has to be a high%. It's part of the nature. It's highly addictive, and tolerance increases fairly rapidly. Either your doctor increases your dose fast enough to combat tolerance, or you will eventually abuse by taking more than the script after a period of time. A small percentage may have a loved one hold them, and a small percentage may be extremely disciplined to take the prescribed dose, even as tolerance increases.

It's one thing to be a jerkoff and abuse them the first day you enter pain management. It's another to get addicted over a long time period and struggle with abuse .
 
Never have, never would. It's more like I have to supplement what the doc gives me with heroin to get through the month, sometimes :P
 
Id say about 2/3 of patients take more than prescribed, use alternative routes of administration, and buy more. I think a lot of people sell meds to buy more meds because they can sell their medication for more to one party and buy it cheaper from another. Also some people sell medicine to buy something stronger like heroin. I always had to supplement my dose and buy more. I never bothered to sell my meds. Nope just gimme more.

IME at clinics. I often see people soliciting to buy and sell medications despite the fact the will call the law or kick you out.

It seems to be a state of sheer desperation with all the new formulations and more importantly all the new laws. It seems there are new laws and policies every month sometimes.
 
I've met three.
two old females and one old male.
two out of the three also used heroin
one just sold out of pure profit
Some of their lives are a wreck. Not to judge or anything, my life is pretty messy itself, but some of these folks' houses, I see a lot of clutter in the house with moldy plates in the sink. Sometimes I wish I could help around the house. Sometimes I do, but sometimes I do it for the wrong reasons. :(
 
I take painkillers and need them,they make me normal, lol. Without them I can't function without being in constant pain. I have a friend who is a dealer and gets pills now and then. He gets them from people with scripts who want to sell them,,he has a guy in his mid 20's , another guy around 40 and an older lady ,like in her 60's ,, and a few other random people,so to me it seems rampant for pill sales and from all walks of life. I actually find it very interesting to watch,from the sidelines ,,with my own pills,,totally uninvolved in the circles of people I see selling different things.My pills and my pot make me a very happy,functioning person,,,,without a script,,what would I do? What would you do? Add to the circle,,that's what,,tis life.
 
I honestly think the % of pain management patients that have their meds stolen right from the medicine cabinets by addicts is higher than old truckers with bad backs with scripts sellin em or abusing them.

Oh course none of this applies to Florida..
 
NerdOnDrugs said:
Oh course none of this applies to Florida..
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Not anymore; they have cracked down very hard and even people with very serious conditions are finding it impossible to get a doc to prescribe them meds. Even if your doctor know you really need them they may not be able to give you them out of fear of getting arrested because of the irrational restrictions the DEA is putting on them and if you do get them you may have to drive for several hours to find a pharmacy that will carry schedule 2 drugs. Now rather than getting my opiates from a doctor who specializes in my condition I have to go to a pain doc.


The percentage of legit patients who sell/abuse their meds is very tiny. A vast majority of people who do were already users/addicts and/or dealers before they got prescribed them. It's very rare that you see a person who is a non drug user with a non-addictive personality all of a sudden turn into a full blown junkie after getting prescribed them for a legitimate medical problem.


I was a drug user before I got prescribed opiates and still never got addicted to them. To be honest 2-3 years ago I would sometimes abuse my extras on a rare occasion but now I never do since my condition has been getting progressively worse and I need to keep my tolerance as low as possible and have as much extras as possible in-case my local pharmacy stops carrying morphine again so doing stuff like getting dressed, walking, ect will be a little less painful.
 
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Never have in the 12 + years on been on pain management...I have given a small % of my opiates/benzos to my wife and friends who were unfortunate enough to have to listen to the doctor repeat a Nancy Reagen speech when they informed them they needed something stronger Advil...
 
Never ever sold. Have been on pain meds for 6 years in various shapes and forms. Recently high dose oxycodone. I most of the time dont crush and snort my pills any more i take em whole or chew AS I JUST NEED THAT CERTAIN AMOUNT IN MY SYSTEM OTHERWISE EVERYTHING COMES TO A STANDSTILL AND IM BEDRIDDEN.
I FIND IT EXYREMELY HARD TO WATCH ANY OXYCONTIN RELATED ON TV ABOUT ABUSE ETC. DUNNO Y. IVE BEEN GUILTY OF MISUSES (TAKING MORE THAN PRESCRIBED BUT THAts it.
 
phenethylo J said:
Not anymore; they have cracked down very hard and even people with very serious conditions are finding it impossible to get a doc to prescribe them meds. Even if your doctor know you really need them they may not be able to give you them out of fear of getting arrested because of the irrational restrictions the DEA is putting on them and if you do get them you may have to drive for several hours to find a pharmacy that will carry schedule 2 drugs. Now rather than getting my opiates from a doctor who specializes in my condition I have to go to a pain doc.
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Really? Seems like just a year ago I was watching a Vice documentary on how easy it was to cop there. I guess all the out-of-Florida script smugglin and abuse couldn't last forever without the Feds dropping in.
 
Whosajiggawaaa said:
I JUST NEED THAT CERTAIN AMOUNT IN MY SYSTEM OTHERWISE EVERYTHING COMES TO A STANDSTILL AND IM BEDRIDDEN.
I FIND IT EXYREMELY HARD TO WATCH ANY OXYCONTIN RELATED ON TV ABOUT ABUSE ETC. DUNNO Y. IVE BEEN GUILTY OF MISUSES (TAKING MORE THAN PRESCRIBED BUT THAts it.
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I think that's a problem for most people. Once you have committed to trying narcotic pain mgmt., you are physiologically guaranteed to become addicted and tolerant. For most people, it seems that doctors will need raise the dose up over time at least to a certain baseline, and patients have to try to stick to the ROA/Dose as prescribed. If all these factors aren't covered by the doctor and patient, it can often lead to patients raising their own dose and running into issues. It would be nice if daily dispensing was optional from the pharmacy, if a patient opted-in for that type (although a monthly supply is convenient) as this would make it easier for patients to be compliant in the face of pain, addiction, and tolerance.
 
Corazon said:
I think that's a problem for most people. Once you have committed to trying narcotic pain mgmt., you are physiologically guaranteed to become addicted and tolerant. For most people, it seems that doctors will need raise the dose up over time at least to a certain baseline, and patients have to try to stick to the ROA/Dose as prescribed. If all these factors aren't covered by the doctor and patient, it can often lead to patients raising their own dose and running into issues. It would be nice if daily dispensing was optional from the pharmacy, if a patient opted-in for that type (although a monthly supply is convenient) as this would make it easier for patients to be compliant in the face of pain, addiction, and tolerance.
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I have weekly dispensing from my pain place. I have to have over 400 mgs a day sadly... I'm forseeing a script gap for a min of 36 hours so I've stocked up with DXM, LOPE, got BUpe in case, and shitty benzos. I'm lucky to have nice compassionate dr's who think outside of the box, many dr's would freak out at that high a dose.
 
Corazon said:
I think that's a problem for most people. Once you have committed to trying narcotic pain mgmt., you are physiologically guaranteed to become addicted and tolerant. For most people, it seems that doctors will need raise the dose up over time at least to a certain baseline, and patients have to try to stick to the ROA/Dose as prescribed. If all these factors aren't covered by the doctor and patient, it can often lead to patients raising their own dose and running into issues. It would be nice if daily dispensing was optional from the pharmacy, if a patient opted-in for that type (although a monthly supply is convenient) as this would make it easier for patients to be compliant in the face of pain, addiction, and tolerance.
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I'm not in America and dr's are hopelessly behind the times (by and large even specialists - oncologist's too equate tolerance and dependence to addiction). I'm terrified that I would have to have another surgery and be given tramadol and paracetamol drips because my 2 super dr's would be outranked, (politics of various dr's and the hierachy is something that also has to be borne in mind) and unable to help me.
 
Not american but an aussie.

I get the signals from people that see my scripts when i pick them up from the chemist, wanting the hookup every couple of months. Like this morning.

Id been seeing this older shiela that looks familiar from a group of users i was loosely affiliated with a few yrs back quite often lately. So as i was walking into the corner store to grab some fruit n veges she stared looking at me and looked what i thought was winking at me. As i got closer i looked again n she was still looking at me. Then she does the old grab her neck n "oh my neck! My neck is so sore! Arfg my neck", looking right at me still. I just laughed and shook my head. She mumbled something i couldnt make out under her breath. End of story.

Then the pharmacist gave my scripts to thos older bloke before me accidentally. Turns out he was on oxycontin as well but nothing near what im prescribed, so je nearly walked out with an awesome surprise bag of morphine, oxy and valiim haha.

But to answer the question properly. No. I dont sell my scripts. I have in the past to other users but dont asdociate with thay crowd anymore. Theres a fair influx opioid abusers in town now. And with a recent articleof people selling their fentanyl scripts for up to $400, the doctor said hes not comfortable with the change anymore. I could get more than $400 from half my morphine script if desired. So yeah dr said despite knowing im not dr shopping nor breaking any other rules put forth in our agreement hes just not comfortable with that switch currently which is all gravy.
 
While I don't think this answers the original question, here are some demographics from the American Academy of Pain Medicine http://www.painmed.org/PatientCenter/Facts_on_Pain.aspx#prescription :
Prescription drugs are the second-most abused category of drugs in the United States, following marijuana.(12).
Among 12th graders, pharmaceutical drugs used non-medically are six of the ten most-used substances.(13)
From 1998 to 2008, the proportion of all substance abuse treatment admissions age 12 or older who reported any pain reliever abuse increased more than fourfold.(14)
Prescription painkillers are considered a major contributor to the total number of drug deaths. In 2007, for example, nearly 28,000 Americans died from unintentional drug poisoning, and of these, nearly 12,000 involved prescription pain relievers.(15)
Nearly one-third (29 percent) of people age 12 or older who used illicit drugs for the first time in the past year began by using prescription drugs non-medically.(12)
According to a 2008 Department of Defense survey, about one in nine active-duty service members (11 percent) reported past-month prescription drug misuse.(16)
The estimated number of emergency department visits linked to non-medical use of prescription pain relievers nearly doubled between 2004 and 2009.(17)
In 2009, the number of first-time, non-medical users of psychotherapeutics (prescription opioid pain relievers, tranquilizers, sedatives, and stimulants) was about the same as the number of first-time marijuana users.(12)
Approximately two million adults age 50 and older (2.1 percent of adults in that age range) used prescription-type drugs non-medically in the past year.(18)
Substance abuse treatment admissions for individuals age 50 or older nearly doubled from 1992 to 2008, climbing from 6.6 percent of all admissions to 12.2 percent. The percentage of primary admissions for prescription drug abuse among older individuals increased from 0.7 percent to 3.5 percent over the same time period.(19)
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