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Feelings for a married girl/friend

morphonorconic

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I value rational thought over pretty much everything else, including feelings. I have to be in control of my emotions, and though I’ve felt what I called “love” in the past a few times, where I simply lost control and felt excited and sick and dreamy and that unique kind of pain that comes with such a strong desire for a girl. I’m thirty, in school full time, and work just short of full time. I’ve been single for two and half years now. Dating sucks, and I’ve dated a handful of different girls, but have not felt anything at all; Seeing them feels more like work than anything else, and kissing them feels like I’m acting a scene in a movie. There has been no emotion on my part, and I’ve not even cared whether or not they felt anything since.

With that said, I have some friends, a married couple. She is my age, he is older, works all the time, and I honestly think she and I have a lot more in common than the two of them do. We don’t hang out a whole lot, and though they invite me over and tell me to drop by anytime, I don’t because I am extremely attracted to his wife. I’ve always felt we had some kind of chemistry, even if only the kind two good friends of the opposite sex can have for each other. We ran into each other at the grocery store after not seeing each other for months and the energy was undeniable. She played nervously with her hair, playfully touched me a dozen times in less than five minutes, her eyes fluttering, looking into mine with an impossible intensity and dilated pupils, all like only a few girls out of plenty in the past ever have, and in a way that makes me feel something I only feel when she and I interact. This led to the three of us going together to a party last night. She’s always been touchy and playful, but last night reached a whole new level and she spent as much of the night on my arm, literally, as she did standing next to her husband. I desperately want to convince myself that this is wishful thinking and that I’m reading too much into nothing, but I truly don’t think it’s just me. It was so much so that I began to notice others looking at us which made me nervous, and though this takes place in her husband, my friend’s view, she seems unable to control herself, and I’m completely helpless. I worry that he is beginning to wonder as he became increasingly serious, even irritable, as the evening progressed. Right before we left the three of us were standing shoulder to shoulder, she in the middle, and she began to lean ever so slightly into my chest, and I felt the best most powerful sickness and elation come over me- keep in mind I’ve felt almost nothing period for years now, so this is very unsettling. The three of us walked home together, and when we reached their house he went straight up the steps towards the door while she stayed right next to me in the driveway near my car, and seemed like she had no other place to be. The conversation became slightly awkward though not in a bad way, and she initiated a hug as she is always the initiator, but this time was different. She wrapped her arms tight around my shoulders/neck and pulled in close and very tight, and held it for 15-20 seconds, and I again felt helpless to resist, and wrapped my arms tight and intimately around her waist without any attempt disguise my now out of control desire for her. I do not think I am misinterpreting her feelings towards me.

Fuck, y’all! I know that nearly one hundred percent of the time these things end one way: Badly. But the way I feel is currently overriding all other systems. I know I need to stay away, but she asked me to go to the Sunday evening picnic on campus tomorrow and I promised I would, and she was clearly excited about seeing me again so soon. The worst part is my inability to rule out some possibility of us getting even closer. My ex broke my heart by cheating on me with some douche that she married less than a year after my finding out, yet my once powerful resolve to never be that douche is fading. Biology is powerful, and such a connection between two people is extremely rare, even if it is socially or morally unacceptable. I just don’t know. Help please! Should I tell her how I feel and that I can’t be around her, or just avoid them at all costs and not worry about being perceived as rude or whatever? Should I not change anything and just see what happens? Or should I do my best to ignore it and write it off as nothing, continuing to spend time with both of them?
 
There's one married woman that I would fuck the next time she gets pissed off at her husband. I don't think twice about it, I just don't get caught up fiending for ass I can't have. It's so much more fun to fuck someone you know you can have and aren't taken in a relationship already.
 
You would not want someone to fuck your wife if you ever got married. It is supposed to be the deepest commitment one can make to another person. The ring is on her finger already, the knot is tied.

Move on and quit hanging out. Nothing good can/will happen. If you did do something, do you know that this man would not come after you? would you blame him?

I am not dismissing your feelings. They are misplaced, however. It feels wonderful to be desired and it is intoxicating. However, she has not made her motives for her behavior clear and it may have little to do with you. You do not have to explain anything, just move along and quit hanging out until you can see her in a different light and feel different.

Be a real man and find someone who can freely love you without hurting someone else in the process.

just my 2 cents.
 
If she'll cheat on him with you, she'll cheat on you too. Or you'll let her go from your bed back to his at night. Either way, playing with fire, and nobody wins.
 
You would not want someone to fuck your wife if you ever got married. It is supposed to be the deepest commitment one can make to another person. The ring is on her finger already, the knot is tied.

Move on and quit hanging out. Nothing good can/will happen. If you did do something, do you know that this man would not come after you? would you blame him?

I am not dismissing your feelings. They are misplaced, however. It feels wonderful to be desired and it is intoxicating. However, she has not made her motives for her behavior clear and it may have little to do with you. You do not have to explain anything, just move along and quit hanging out until you can see her in a different light and feel different.

Be a real man and find someone who can freely love you without hurting someone else in the process.

just my 2 cents.

agreed wholeheartedly.

...kytnism...:|
 
theres always the danger as well that your desire has a rooting in the fact of it being an 'impossible' per se, relationship

and that her desire is the excitement and risk that comes with going behind someones back

this scenario often comes up and everyone always agrees that its a pretty fucked thing to do to break up a marriage because you feel you have a deep chemistry with this girl

its almost like what you wrote is an analogy for the situation in my life, but even if the girl breaks up with the boyfriend who I am friends with, I don't think i can do anything to not become a dick if a physical relationship started.
 
If she'll cheat on him with you, she'll cheat on you too. Or you'll let her go from your bed back to his at night. Either way, playing with fire, and nobody wins.

Absolutly correct there.

She will fuck you if shes flirting like that. I have a similar situation with two women. I was seeing a married woman for 4 years. Her husband was overseas and than they separated. They were not together the whole time, but yeah we both cheated. I still talk to her and still fuck her and its like 12 years later. We were gonna get married but yeah she has married two other times when I disappeared. I think we will always fuck on and off as long as Im not married, but yeah she will never be my wife.

Recently Ive had a friends wife coming on to me. I don't think I want to be with her despite how much I like her. I know shes trying to leave him and the are not legally married but try telling him that as he got a ring on her finger and has made it quite clear that he considers he his "property". This dude is horrid to women but a very loyal friend.

His attitude towards this woman disgusts me and shes been trying to leave since she started dating him. He beats her in front of company reguarally. I digress though she calls me and invites me over for dinner with them. He seems to love that his wife is fond of me as he thinks she wont cheat but she will and has tried to fuck me several times.

Shes a beautiful and intelligent woman but a bit weak in spirit cuz shes with this man. If she was single Id hit it, but I think I know it will kill my friendship with dude. I know shed leave him for me but do I want that commitment. I don't think so.

Really do what you want, but don't be surprised if she cuts you off, expects secrecy, or dude goes ape shit on you. Some people get really mad when you fuck their spouse. I learned the hard way. Ive had death threats over women and it got so bad I had to carry a gun and we were both there standing with are hands on a gun. I said "draw your weapon or fuck off for good. I don't think its worth it. I suppose one of us can die and the other can rot or we just walk away and be done with this." Thankfully we walked away.
 
Would you want me walking into your house and fucking your wife on your bed?

Break off the relationship before something happens. If there are children involved that makes it even worse.
 
Wait till they break up, it sounds like they will, just be patient, if it's meant to happen it will.
 
Aah...right well it sounds like you know the chances that this ends well for you aren't that high, and unfortunately I do have to say you should probably stick to that thinking. Don't hold on to hopes, no matter what you feel her feelings may be...even if it turns out she is interested in you, then what? There's a big difference between that and the two of you having a future together. It's sadly not because she's interested in you that she would want to leave her husband. Most likely scenario if she wants something to happen between the two of you is you end up being her lover...is that really what you want? Don't you think you deserve more? :\

If you can, I'd do my best to just ignore it and continue to see them, since it would be a shame to lose such friends. Obviously that may be a bit easier said than done though...you can also explain the situation to her if you feel like you need to take a break from seeing her for a bit, but maybe go over her possible reactions and see if it's worth maybe making your friendship a bit more fragile for a while. Good luck, it's not a great situation to be in :(
 
You would not want someone to fuck your wife if you ever got married.

If she'll cheat on him with you, she'll cheat on you too. Or you'll let her go from your bed back to his at night. Either way, playing with fire, and nobody wins.

^^ Both are very true. If she cheats on him then there is a good chance she'd cheat on you.
I think you know already that you need to give up this feeling, it is difficult, but you've gotta do it.
 
I know, I know... I know better. Thank you all for the solid input. You're all absolutely right, and all these points come as no surprise. I'm just trying to rationalize. As I’m reading these replies I’m laughing; I may as well have made a “Really want to try heroin intravenously” thread. The path such a decision leads down is obvious, but we try to rationalize doing it anyway because drugs and sex/feelings for people etc affect us in such an extraordinary and overpowering way that it can lead us to sacrifice values and cross barriers we swore we’d never cross to obtain that gratification. But regardless of how in control I generally am these days, there’s still that idea of her wanting to be with me, knowing that she’s not happy, that very real and rare intimacy or connection that is way beyond the run of the mill sexual attraction. Many people go a lifetime never having that.

I respect marriage and even regular ass commitment if it’s genuine. I wouldn’t have had any problem keeping my feelings concealed and hanging out with them as I had been until she escalated the intensity of the magnetism between us to another level, being overtly and even inappropriately affectionate and showing literally every single textbook sign of attraction. God I sound like a narcissist, and I am, but not as big of one as I sound like right now I promise.

I am highly prone to wanting things I cannot have, and I recognized this immediately, and I’m sure that is factoring in somewhere. For her part, I’m almost sure she’s not the type who would get a thrill from going behind his back, but I know her well enough to know she would follow her heart and responsibly consider the idea of leaving him, if she’s as unhappy as I think, and if she was feeling something she’s never felt before for yours truly. Yes I am that great. Just kidding. I just don’t remember feeling so strongly for a girl, ever. Not even my ex at the beginning, nor the one before her, both of whom I love and had serious feelings for, just never of this caliber. Thing is, she is exactly what I have always wanted and have never been able to find. This is killing me. I hate this shit.
 
I want to tell her why I can't come around, but doing so would essentially be me making the first move even if I did it with the intention of breaking things off, as the underlying motive would be my hope that she admits to feeling the same way and falls into my arms. They are friends of my large southern family, she is close with my mom, they rent the house next to my parent's house from my dad, come to all the cocktail parties etc. Fucking movie of the week I know...

Outright avoidance results in everyone thinking I'm rude or antisocial as I learned from my last period of staying away and turning down invites. I need to accept it for what it is and get over it. We're always going to want things we can't have or that aren't meant to be, and just because the desire for a certain thing is stronger than any other doesn't make acting on it right or justified.
 
There's going to be sexual energy at times between yourself and others with whom you aren't in position to act with. Deal with it.
 
OP is it maybe because she is somewhat unatainable as in forbiden fruit. Would you still be attracted without all the drama around it?

If you want to fuck her that bad, than just do it. It sounds like you are ready to deal with the consequences. Id bet money she wont leave her husband for you unless she has already said it.

Ive had a woman say that to me, but she was looking for a way out of a horrible relationship and I think even though there is attraction she is mainly trying to use me as some sort of protection from her psychopath. She knows I own guns and carry legally and shes downright scared of the man. The other day she told me she was leaving him and getting her own place and her family is paying for it. I told her not to tell me that when dudes in the next room.

I dont want this woman that keeps offering to leave her husband for me. She seems to assume that just because sexual things happened between us that I would get in a serious relationship with her. I genuinlly like her as a friend but do not want a serious relationship with her and I have given her no cause to think any different. Ive actually tried to put space between us.

I suppose if I did want her my mind would be racing about so many things. Its not a good idea to get with a woman immediatley after she leaves her spouse. It sure makes it look as though you two had something going on for a long time. In some states you can be sued for alienation of affection. Google it.
 
If she'll cheat on him with you.....

I disagree, that's not the way it has to be, perhaps she's with the wrong guy, perhaps that relationship is already doomed to failure, perhaps she is going to be the OPs future soul mate, the universe is a funny place and human emotions and relationships are complex and personal, there are no rules, no logic to love.

The trick is to navigate through these situations with compassion for all concerned (including yourself) and to try and maintain dignity, respect and decency throughout, but that doesn't mean run away from feelings, just tread gently and use your intuition, it's all you really have and is your best guide.

My first marriage was a fucking disaster, a huge mistake we both made being very young and impulsive, so were we wrong to separate and move on ?, well my current partner/soul mate of 25 years and our beautiful 18 year old daughter are a reality because of that first marriage ending and I've never looked back.
 
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OP is it maybe because she is somewhat unatainable as in forbiden fruit. Would you still be attracted without all the drama around it?

That's a good point I think - have had that happen to me a couple times. I can be so ridiculously into an unavailable guy but as soon as he's free and interested in me it's like he just kinda disappears and I couldn't care less :\ so yes OP, definitely consider whether that's adding a lot...

I know, I know... I know better. Thank you all for the solid input. You're all absolutely right, and all these points come as no surprise. I'm just trying to rationalize. As I’m reading these replies I’m laughing; I may as well have made a “Really want to try heroin intravenously” thread.

Hah yup that's kinda what I was thinking...but as with those kinds of threads, what we can tell you is limited and in the end you're just going to do whatever you think will satisfy your needs and curiosity. It's not necessarily the 'right' thing for you but it's perfectly normal. Do try to be as rational as possible though, as difficult as that may be.
 
I personally think if you have an opportunity to connect, and I mean really connect with another human being, you should take it.

I'm in a relationship right now that's so tepid you could run your hands underneath it. It's awful because I'm constantly searching for the deep connection that's missing in my life. If I found it, no matter who it was with, I would be helpless to stop it. I know that and it doesn't seem weak at all to me. This facile 'be a man' argument only exists due to people's insecurity about losing their partner. I love my partner, but if she found happiness in someone else's arms, I would let her go. She is not my property and I am not her's.

I want nothing else more in my life right now than to be in love again.
 
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