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MrSpeedyG

MrSpeedyG

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Its always been in the back of my mind to ask why in the focus forums we have only MDxx, Cannabis, Steroids and Psycedelics to have their own focus forums and any other drug that does fit in that class goes in the other drugs forum... I understand how a line has to be drawn in terms of how many focus forums we could have, but it has always got to me how we dont have a specific stimulant and opiate forum rather those threads are posted into the other drugs forum.

I also find it odd how steroids have their own dedicated section, yet stimulants, opiates, RCs and anything else are all bundled in a mess of the other drugs forum, when each in themselves are classes of drugs that have many drugs to their class... And that steroid use isn't really that much of a big deal on BL but rather other forums are more suited to steroid advice IMHO. I simple look at the amount of posts/activity in the steroid forum compared to the others clearly shows this, its always bugged me to be honest dont get me wrong I love BL and think its a great HR site im on here everyday... I just really get peeved being a stimulant lover and seeing a dedicated steroid section on this site yet to get my daily fix on stimulant topics its in a messy other drugs forum... lol

Maybe I am just biased because stimulants are my thing lol so are steroids I used to be heavily into that scene but here on BL I look at it and it seems so out of place here (dont get me wrong it is useful and all part of HR but in terms of the big scope of all recreationally used substances), but still, I would love too see focus forums for:

Stimulants
- Obviously amphetamine and relatives, cocaine, MPH, designer stims

Opiates
- Heroin, morphine, oxys, hydros etc etc

You see my point lol

It would just make things a bit easier and neater to have things in there own focus forum, especially since the steroid thing i mentioned above we have a forum for that but stimulats/opiate users alone are surely much more abundant that steroid users on BL...
 
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Its always been in the back of my mind to ask why in the focus forums we have only MDxx, Cannabis, Steroids and Psycedelics to have their own focus forums and any other drug that does fit in that class goes in the other drugs forum... I understand how a line has to be drawn in terms of how many focus forums we could have, but it has always got to me how we dont have a specific stimulant and opiate forum rather those threads are posted into the other drugs forum.

I also find it odd how steroids have their own dedicated section, yet stimulants, opiates, RCs and anything else are all bundled in a mess of the other drugs forum, when each in themselves are classes of drugs that have many drugs to their class... And that steroid use isn't really that much of a big deal on BL but rather other forums are more suited to steroid advice IMHO. I simple look at the amount of posts/activity in the steroid forum compared to the others clearly shows this, its always bugged me to be honest dont get me wrong I love BL and think its a great HR site im on here everyday... I just really get peeved being a stimulant lover and seeing a dedicated steroid section on this site yet to get my daily fix on stimulant topics its in a messy other drugs forum... lol

Maybe I am just biased because stimulants are my thing lol so are steroids I used to be heavily into that scene but here on BL I look at it and it seems so out of place here (dont get me wrong it is useful and all part of HR but in terms of the big scope of all recreationally used substances), but still, I would love too see focus forums for:

Stimulants
- Obviously amphetamine and relatives, cocaine, MPH, designer stims

Opiates
- Heroin, morphine, oxys, hydros etc etc

You see my point lol

It would just make things a bit easier and neater to have things in there own focus forum, especially since the steroid thing i mentioned above we have a forum for that but stimulats/opiate users alone are surely much more abundant that steroid users on BL...
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I am an opiate/opioid user and have no problem using Other Drugs for discussing their use. The prefixes in OD help organize it a bit, and I never considered its current state to be problematic. There are a lot of threads where people discuss using both opiates and stimulants, so having a forum that hosts the discussion of both of them helps avoid the dilemma of what forum to post in if we had separate forums for opiates/opioids and stimulants/amphetamines, and you had a question about using the two in combination. Throw benzos and/or alcohol into the mix and then you really see why having one big forum for discussing them all (plus two other ones [Basic Drug Discussion and Advanced Drug Discussion] is more convenient than having focus forums for each one.

Bearlove said:
Where is that 'Opiod' forum? - Was it not closed a few years ago?
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I don't think we ever had one. I haven't been on this site for that long when considering the history of Bluelight (I joined 9 years after its inception), but there are a few threads that document the changes over time, and I don't see an opioid forum listed in either one of them.

My references are The History of Bluelight and the first post of the Thanks Staff Members thread.
 
Well that makes plenty of sense then, I guess it is pretty useful in terms of what you were saying if used drugs are in a combo makes things a lot easier. I'm just picky lol, never the less love bluelight and reccomend it to all, unforutnately every user I have come accross is so naive, drug user I meet.

Great site, just thought id chip in my thoughts :)

Cheers
 
Let's say we make a "tweakers and twerkers" sub forum, and one for the junkies.

Where would camfetamine fit? For you see, it is both a stimulant and an opioid.

Not to mention buprenorphine is fairly stimulating.

So with all of this in mind, it doesn't make sense to split off the sub-forums.
 
How many posts about camfetamine have you seen recently?

Od seems largely taken over by opiate addicts. It would be nice to have a cultural center for gabaergics/stimulants.

There will always be overlap.
 
OD is very large, personally I think there should be at least a Research chemical focus forum since the HR with RCs different then with street drugs. People got to know the risk involved by research chemical, know that these are unknow substance with no studies on it. That they might not getting the drug they think they have. That the substance can be contaminated with other drugs and/or other industrial products.

There should have sticky thread about the basic HR of RCs, like what I already told in my first sentence but also about how to approch RCs. Things like, should I always have a scale ? Should I do an allergy/reaction test for every chemicals even if its the same chemical I order months after months from the same vendor? What are the dose of this new untested substance ? What are the effects ? Is it a dangerous ? How can I properly dose a submilligram substance if I dont have a microgram scale. ETC. ETC. ETC. There is so much things to say about RCs HR.

In the past I made so much mistake with RCs because I didnt have these informations and from experience I cant tell that RCs are very hazardous and death can occurs if you dont know what the hell you are doing. Im now a much more experience user, I know a lot about RCs and I believe OD doesnt have enough RCs HR content. Or at least I have not found them.

Ill wait for an awnser and if you tell me that there is threads in OD about RCs HR basic than why not make them sticky ? If theres none then Ill probably make one soon.

But seriously there should be a RCs focus forum.
 
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There should have sticky thread about the basic HR of RCs, like what I already told in my first sentence but also about how to approch RCs. Things like, should I always have a scale ? Should I do an allergy/reaction test for every chemicals even if its the same chemical I order months after months from the same vendor? What are the dose of this new untested substance ? What are the effects ? Is it a dangerous ? How can I properly dose a submilligram substance if I dont have a microgram scale. ETC. ETC. ETC. There is so much things to say about RCs HR.
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there's nothing stopping you from starting such a thread and asking the forum staff to stick it for you.

alasdair
 
I will this week end if I have enough time to get all the info I need to make a solid thread that deserve to be sticky, it might take more than a week end though, I dont know how much time I have for this right now. I have ton of work.
 
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OD is very large, personally I think there should be at least a Research chemical focus forum since the HR with RCs different then with street drugs. People got to know the risk involved by research chemical, know that these are unknow substance with no studies on it. That they might not getting the drug they think they have. That the substance can be contaminated with other drugs and/or other industrial products.

There should have sticky thread about the basic HR of RCs, like what I already told in my first sentence but also about how to approch RCs. Things like, should I always have a scale ? Should I do an allergy/reaction test for every chemicals even if its the same chemical I order months after months from the same vendor? What are the dose of this new untested substance ? What are the effects ? Is it a dangerous ? How can I properly dose a submilligram substance if I dont have a microgram scale. ETC. ETC. ETC. There is so much things to say about RCs HR.

In the past I made so much mistake with RCs because I didnt have these informations and from experience I cant tell that RCs are very hazardous and death can occurs if you dont know what the hell you are doing. Im now a much more experience user, I know a lot about RCs and I believe OD doesnt have enough RCs HR content. Or at least I have not found them.

Ill wait for an awnser and if you tell me that there is threads in OD about RCs HR basic than why not make them sticky ? If theres none then Ill probably make one soon.

But seriously there should be a RCs focus forum.
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I think that the issue is that RC's fall into various classes of drugs, so they go into the forums for the classes they fall under. For example a lot of them are psychedelics, so there are megathreads for those individual drugs in that forum.
 
I have no problem using the OD forum either but I do remember when I first started using BL on a regular basis I was faintly surprised that we didn't have a seperate forum for opiates/opioids also (of course those are my main DOCs also so it specifically pertained to a lot of what I researched/read).

Not that it matters, just my 2 cents... ;)
 
I dont have no problem using OD forum for RCs theres just too much drugs in OD thats why I would separete some but anyway thats not my choice and I wont continue argument. Im also pretty suprised there is not enough HR about RCs since they are quite the most dangerous class of drugs at the moment so trust me, I will make that thread, I cant tell when it will be ready but I already made a frame of idea for it.
 
^ Forum staff in that area would very likely be happy to work with you if you contact them via PM. Usually when building something like that, it's best to have thoughts from the whole community, then eventually get the information finalized (cleaned up) into an easily readable format with links to the proper sections, ect.

That way information is available as the resource is built, and only improves over time. Awesome idea imo, a tall task for sure. Just also bear in mind since different RCs are sorted into forums by their general type, the thread may need to eventually be split apart so the information for various RCs appear in their proper place. Again, if this needs doing, PM a member of staff, if you're putting that level of effort into it, I have no doubt someone will happily help with the logistics of it. :)
 
Nice to hear that. Im not born english speaking so my text might contain some error so I hope someone with take care of this dull job of correcting my mistakes. I try my best though. They might aswell give me ideas of what to add to the thread.

I already made some paragraphs which contain this

- What are RCs
- History
- Risk involved
- Reducing the risk
- Dealing with bad reaction
- Brand chemicals warning
 
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^ It might be easier to use the template that we've been using here for the wiki pages on drugs. It's in the second post here, and you can possibly get some other ideas from checking out that section of the forum.
 
The problem is that there are so many RC's of all different types, that there could end up being a ton of completely different topics going on at once, leading to a lot of confusion, work to keep organized, and just general disarray.

This is why we've kept it to individual megathreads about specific RC's.

I'd be for it but it would really have to be focused, because just a thread about RC's is way too general, even with the sub categories you mentioned QUARE. Because there are so many different chemicals in totally different drug classes, it's hard to hammer out just standard "RC discussion", because it encompasses so much.

Certainly go for it though if you really want to and we'll all try and help to make it a focused reality.
 
Im not looking to talk about any substance in that thread I want it to be focused on harm reduction concerning research chemical in general, im not going to say watch out stimulant can cause this, psychedelic cause that. No, let me show you a section of my text so you can see what its like.

- Reducing the risk
There are many ways to reduce the risks.
- Always do a sub milligram allergy/reaction test rubbed on your tongue, even if you are getting the same chemical months after months from the same vendor. The chemical could have been mislabelled or be from a different batch containing who knows what.
- Always weight your dose with a decent milligram scale or a microgram scale if you are using highly dangerous chemicals active in sub milligrams doses.
- Know the substance you are about to consume, do as much research as you can on Google and forums.
- Know your source, it is hard to know them well, but if you try some and get good result with certain vendors, you better stick to the trustable ones. You can also get scam by these sellers. Receiving inactive product can happen.
- If you have the money, access to instrument and knowledge to test the product in vitro, it is wise to do so before consumption.
- Cheap drug test kit can be bought on internet but they have limited use.

Thats only a few line that can saves lifes.
 
^^

I like that so far. There's no harm in trying it and seeing how the members react and what kind of discussion starts taking place.

When you have a suitable complete 1st draft, send it on over to the OD staff so we can check it out.

Keep up the good work.
 
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