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Tripping while sober???

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Raven Madd

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Okay this is weird guys.
I am currently sober and have not done any drugs in a while. I am experiencing all the effects of a psychedelic drug, I think acid would come closest to this feeling. I am experiencing OEVs but I regularly experience those while sober, constantly in fact, but they are much more pronounced right now. For example, I was looking at the wall and it started melting. Also my body feels high, like these intense euphoric waves are just rippling through me and it feels amazing. There's also some audio distortion, like a sort of ringing....type....thing, I don't know how to explain it, but I'm sure most of you can get the idea.
It's not at all unpleasant, I'm loving it in fact, but why is it happening? I literally feel like I've dropped a hit of acid and I haven't dropped acid in so long. Any ideas?

EDIT: I just thought of how to describe the audio distortion. It's like that sound effect they use in movies for ufos and flying saucers and such. There's other effects as well, but that's the most prominent one.
 
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My advice to you is to see a Psychiatrist. Quite possibly there could be a chemical in-balance in your brain chemistry. I'm just telling you from personal experience. %) Tell them how long symptoms have been going on etc... You'll get your shit figured out.
 
The Dr said:
My advice to you is to see a Psychiatrist. Maybe possibly there could be a chemical in-balance in your brain chemistry. I'm just telling you from personal experience. %) Tell them how long symptoms have been going on etc... You'll get your shit figured out.
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Yeah, I've been wanting to do that for a while for some other unrelated things, but I need to get insurance first. Whenever I finally do, I'll have to remember to tell them about this experience.
I forgot to mention, but definitely should have since it might be related, earlier that day I had a sort of emotional breakdown after coming to terms with past issues. For the past few years I have been almost incapable of feeling emotion at all, but upon encountering some pictures I haven't seen in years, I felt my old emotions come back all at once, and it was overwhelming. I had the idea that perhaps this breakthrough released endorphins or something into my brain, which later resulted in my episode of trippy euphoria? I think this is a very reasonable conclusion, or else it was a flashback.
In flashbacks, do people actually experience the full effects of a drug? I mean, it lasted a whole hour and it was sooo similar to LSD and it was intense.
I hope it happens again, I absolutely loved it.
EDIT: It is kinda happening again every now and then, but much shorter bursts and less intense. Like a single wave of euphoria here and there randomly.
 
I experience this sometimes but only for a few minutes. I noticed it started happening after taking 2C-B nBome. Sometimes I trip really hard for like ten seconds.
 
I've heard you can get flashbacks from drugs, that they can genuinely give you a spurt of feeling/emotion/tripping/visuals from residue of the drug left inside or something.


I personally think that once you have taken a drug and experienced wherever it takes you, the capacity to see, feel or experience that will stay with you so it may be possible to see similar things without the drug. You know like once you stretch a jumper, it cannot be unstretched - it remains baggy and has the capacity to fit a larger size even though you have now shrunk to a smaller frame. If that makes sense. Which it probably doesn't. I feel my comparison analogies (especially when it comes ot drugs) are really unrealistic and faffy.
 
A psychedelic experience is not always drug induced this is a common misconception, I would have to ask if you are taking any over the counter medication or prescription as say something like too much pseudoephedrine intake can induce these states. Possibly drinking too much caffeine etc... Also I would be curious to your diet and exercise routine, I am no physician however I believe this is more common with poor diet and exercise in relation to brain chemistry and chemical balances.
 
EarthBounded said:
A psychedelic experience is not always drug induced this is a common misconception, I would have to ask if you are taking any over the counter medication or prescription as say something like too much pseudoephedrine intake can induce these states. Possibly drinking too much caffeine etc... Also I would be curious to your diet and exercise routine, I am no physician however I believe this is more common with poor diet and exercise in relation to brain chemistry and chemical balances.
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I am not on any medications nor are any prescribed to me at this time. Physically, I am quite average, I have a good diet, I get some exercise but I'm not exactly super fit, either.
Mentally, I have been unstable in the past 12 hours, as some repressed memories have recently surfaced and it has caused a lot of distress. I have assumed that to be the cause of last night's "trip", as it occurred a few hours after a major emotional breakdown. However, I have since come to terms with the repressed memories and the emotional distress. This morning, I even experienced what I think is called an "ego death", but I'm not sure if that's the correct terminology or not.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...-the-first-time-again?p=11608026#post11608026
I do believe that this is all mental issues and can be dealt with through my efforts and talking to a professional, which I intend to do soon.
 
Raven Madd said:
I am not on any medications nor are any prescribed to me at this time. Physically, I am quite average, I have a good diet, I get some exercise but I'm not exactly super fit, either.
Mentally, I have been unstable in the past 12 hours, as some repressed memories have recently surfaced and it has caused a lot of distress. I have assumed that to be the cause of last night's "trip", as it occurred a few hours after a major emotional breakdown. However, I have since come to terms with the repressed memories and the emotional distress. This morning, I even experienced what I think is called an "ego death", but I'm not sure if that's the correct terminology or not.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...-the-first-time-again?p=11608026#post11608026
I do believe that this is all mental issues and can be dealt with through my efforts and talking to a professional, which I intend to do soon.
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That sounds like the right thing to do. It sounds to me like your getting a little delusional. It's happened to lots of people I know, including myself. For a while I didn't even know what was reality and what wasn't. Once I got professional help, they really help clear your head up and dispel some of the delusion's you may be having.
 
Ill agree I have been in this state of mind before as well, A professional is always the smart thing to do, I would highly highly recommend not just settling for a medication however, this made my case way worse in my early 20s. The only thing that cured it for me was an Amazing Vegetarian diet full of nutrients from the earth, proper vitamin intake, Exercise 4 days a week, even just walking a mile or two a day can do magic to your brain and thought process, also just spending a couple minutes a day in nature for tranquility and understanding more of my divine... I also meditate, specifically Kundalini and Chakra meditations, I was very disturbed, I couldn't comprehend reality I was very close to permanently loosing it, I am back to being my normal happy self, its a battle, but you must look twords positivity and every day will be better.

Just use caution some doctors may just throw you on some meds, when in reality you may not need them and they may make your situation worse, however talking to a professional is a good start.
 
EarthBounded said:
Just use caution some doctors may just throw you on some meds, when in reality you may not need them and they may make your situation worse, however talking to a professional is a good start.
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YES, this is very fucking true. A doc threw me on Celexa and that shit made me suicidal. Proper treatment ( if any is even needed) is what was mentioned in the post above. Medication cannot do it alone, and it may take a few tries. Luckily for me my new doctor specializes in neurological medication, got all my shit fixed.
 
I've been stuck in a similar state sometimes for a few weeks in the past. It was straight up psychosis, just didn't realize it until i got better. You don't seem to sound like you're in psychosis but that's exactly what psychosis feels to me, a lot like DXM or a psychedelic. Usually quite euphoric, but paranoid as well. Probably best to see a therapist if you don't want to get thrown on antipsychotics, there are many places that'll charge you an affordable price as well.
 
The OP has absolutely zero reason to seek psychiatric aid, as he said:

It's not at all unpleasant, I'm loving it in fact, but why is it happening? I literally feel like I've dropped a hit of acid and I haven't dropped acid in so long. Any ideas?
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I can't give you an exact epidemiology, but this sort of thing is not unheard of it. Glad you're enjoying it, that's the best course to take, so long as it doesn't interfere with your ability to live a rewarding/meaningful life.

If this starts interfering with relationships, work, and ability to meet your daily needs, seek immediate help. You'd probably try to rationalize that the world has the problem and what you're doing this right, that's how you know you're mentally ill.
 
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Never Knows Best11608357 said:
The OP has absolutely zero reason to seek psychiatric aid, as he said:



I can't give you an exact epidemiology, but this sort of thing is not unheard of it. Glad you're enjoying it, that's the best course to take, so long as it doesn't interfere with your ability to live a rewarding/meaningful life.

If this starts interfering with relationships, work, and ability to meet your daily needs, seek immediate help. You'll probably try to rationalize that the world has the problem and what you're doing this right, that's how you know you're mentally ill.
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Normally I would fully agree with you, and up until the experience I had this morning, I would say this is all correct. However, at the time of that post, I was still in a euphoric state, and was not connecting that experience to the mental breakdown I had just hours before that. I thought it was somehow an extremely delayed reaction or flashback to my acid tripping days, but I am not thinking that anymore after the insight I had this morning. I have taken a real good look at my life, my choices, my clear addiction to drugs, and the thoughts inside of my head subjectively, and I know that there is something wrong now.
I do need to seek help. Not in terms of psychiatric medications, either, I don't want any drugs in my system at all until after I clear my head, face my problems, and then learn to use drugs in a responsible manner to expand my mind, rather than just get high. And that's if I ever decide to go back. I may decide to find other ways to expand my mind. I mean, I'm not saying right here and right now that I'll never use drugs again, because I do love tripping, but I'm not going to solely rely on them for escaping reality or experiencing an altered state of mind. First, I'm going to get the help I need for my clearly declining mental health. Then I'm going to recover from my addictions and stay clean while I learn other mind-expanding techniques such as meditation and lucid dreaming. Then, after I'm fully recovered, if I feel I am responsible enough to trip for the right reasons and not just to be high, I might decide to use it proactively in the manner it's supposed to be used. Maybe I'll decide I don't need to trip at all ever again. I'm not sure, but whatever I choose, I want it to be the right choice, and I can't make those decisions now, not in this state of mind.

EDIT: Actually, for some reason, I had not seen the second part of your post where you proceeded to pretty much say exactly what I just said. Yeah, you were entirely correct about the whole rationalizing thing, that's how I figured out that there was a problem and it was me, not the world.
 
I have never experienced anything like HPPD or flashbacks, so I can't speak from personal experience here.

Profound altered states of consciousness are, without a doubt, possible without drugs. Meditation, lucid dreaming, sensory deprivation, extreme diet, etc. can induce such states but it is much more rare to see this type of thing happen spontaneously. It can happen, but it is uncommon. I would recommend that you seek out professional medical attention to rule out the possibility of significant health issues that you aren't yet aware of, and to see if it is possible to prevent this from happening again. These experiences may not always be unpleasant but it can certainly interfere with your life, potentially catastrophically. You don't want to start going psychotic while you are driving down the highway.

Good luck
 
Using psychedelics will make you more sensitive to random bursts of noise flowing through your nervous system. It's not a big deal and it will pass in time.
 
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Have you been sleeping well lately? Take any medications?
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I don't take any medications, however, that may have been the first stages of sleep deprivation. At the time, I hadn't sleep at all that night, and for then I ended up going a full 50 hours without sleep. It wasn't on propose, I've just been under a lot of emotional stress and couldn't calm my mind down. During this time, I experienced hallucinations, paranoia, delusions, and confusion. When I finally did go to sleep, I experienced horrifying night terrors, which I had never experienced before and was not prepared for at all. This entire experience was literally one of the most unpleasant things I've ever been through and I hope I never do again. Sleep deprivation is a serious problem and can cause terrible mental problems while under it's influence.
Luckily a hot cup of chamomile tea with a touch of honey really helped relax me and I did finally get some sleep. Still recovering, though.
 
the whole sober trip thing sounded a bit extreme for something that could normally happen without having taken anything. Maybe I could imagine it if you were intentionally trying to create an experience. The 50 hours without sleep likely caused your symptoms, but to have gone that long without sleep due to emotional stress is a sign that you could be on your way to having a total mental breakdown where sanity could begin to slip away. Try to get to sleep and sleep as long as you can to get yourself over this. A lot of "episodes" are triggered by stress creating an extreme lack of sleep. You basically just start dreaming while your wide awake, that is likely what caused your "trip" a while ago
 
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