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So I didn't roll even atfer a 90 day break and some other drugs didn't work either.

Would you try to roll again next month or would you give it a break. I didn't feel like I fried my brain, I slept well and felt good the next day. Have I done some damage regardless of not rolling or did I just waste some pills?
 
The "acid" was probably Nbome and since you swallowed it, it barely worked.

Have you ever experienced the inability to roll before? or this was a first?

EDC chicago, looked tight....with the prices ultra is fucking charging now i might take a trip somewhere for an EDC and it will end up the same price, lol.
 
When I ate shrooms one day before I was suppose to roll, 150mg mdma felt very very weak, I didnt roll. Just sayin.
 
The reason you kept up good diet an exercise was to prepare your mind and body so they'd be fresh for the roll. All the cocaine you did on day 1 probably left you nothing close to rested on day 1 and put all your preparation to waste. Shrooms are cross-tolerant with MDMA, to a degree, so that probably didn't help either. Many people find that taking MDMA with alcohol kills the roll.

Our buddy a guy that's very familiar with psychedelics told us that acid is best when you are coming off a shroom trip.
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Sorry, but this is absolute nonsense. Mushrooms and LSD are cross-tolerant, so taking LSD right after a mushroom trip is an almost complete waste of product. My best advice to you would be to do your own research and not listen to any of the crap your buddies are feeding you. :/
 
Well I generally find the harder I trip, the stronger the tolerance effects I get, so I would say this is due to the fact that you tripped really hard on the shrooms, which gave you a strong tolerance.
 
Also the x and and especially "acid" may have been weak bc of 5ht receptor downregulation caused hy the shrooms....i believe this is tge mechanism by which psychedelic tolerance builds wouldnt it make sense that if your 5ht receptor s r down regged there are less available for the serotonin released by mdma to plug into?
 
Whilst I agree the shrooms could potentially build up a tolerance as they share a similiar mechanism to LSD there was a two day gap between the shrooms and LSD.

However the mechanism of LSD to that of MDMA is different and theoretically whilst you might be slightly tired from the shroom trip the shrooms shouldnt have that much effect on the roll.

I would say the Piracetam is the more likely candidate for the shit roll possibley combined with tiredness from the previos night.

In regards to the LSD on day 3 whilst the argument that the shrroms would have built up a tolerance is a valid argument I dont think they would have totally nullified the trip. I would say far more likely shit product for the LSD. The numbing sensation would seem like the give away as there really shouldnt be that from pure LSD. far more likely an RC.
 
Futura, I think your on to something. A few months ago I preloaded with the supplement for a few days and had a lousy roll (didnt drop the day I rolled). This time I preloaded too but but I also took some an hour before rolling. I'm going to give it another shot next month, this time I'll be supplement free.
 
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Futura, I think your on to something. A few months ago I preloaded with the supplement for a few days and had a lousy roll (didnt drop the day I rolled). This time I preloaded too but but I also took some an hour before rolling. I'm going to give it another shot next month, this time I'll be supplement free.
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Yeah, the Piracetam can block a roll. Iv seen this happen many times. So yeah your not suppose take it right before. I think your suppose to take it after your roll man.
 
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