CD Social/ Information booth VS. Whose got the lighter?

[Lightning-Nl]

Just because THC is a bronchodilator doesn't mean that it protects your lungs from smoke. A bronchodilator is just something that dilates the airways to allow increased lung flow and air capacity. The smoke from Marijuana can actually be worse for you (in theory) than Tobacco smoke because of the increased amount of carbons that are carried into the lungs and that aren't burned off when you smoke Marijuana.

The only reason why you don't see black lungs from Marijuana smokers on the news is because of the lack of studies to determine if Marijuana smoke can leave that much tar and do as much damage to the lungs as Tobacco (which it can)

 

[Cornishman]

Is it really that hard to work out?

Is cannabis smoke somehow clean? Does it not contain any tar?

I don't think there's a single piece of plant matter on the planet which doesn't leave behind some kind of noxious tar-like residue when burned.

 

[FnX]

Just think about roaches, pipes and bongs. Whatever happens to them is more or less happening to your lungs too.

 

[Lightning-Nl]

Well, THC, which is some sort of bronchial dilator.

THC releases a massive amount of Norepinephrine and epinephrine at all adrenergic binding sites. This is what causes the increased anxiety from THC. This is also what causes your huge increase in focus and this is also the mechanism behind THC's bronchodilating effect.

Albuterol - which is the drug that is found in asthma inhalers - is a β2 adrenergic receptor agonist. This is the reason why they put it in asthma inhalers, so it can have a direct affect on the cells in the lungs AND so the Albuterol can hit the CNS almost instantly (instead of a pill which could take up to 30 minuets to work) and dilate the lungs in seconds to stop an asthma attack.

THC works exactly the same way in this perspective. The difference with THC is that it does a lot more than just release adrenaline. Also, just because THC is a bronchodilator - doesn't mean it's going to stop an asthma attack if you're smoking Marijuana.

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

Yes, you will.

Weed has a much heavier tar content than tobacco...
It creates just as much trash when burned.
And people tend to hold it much longer too...

 

[Jibult]

Yes, you will.

Weed has a much heavier tar content than tobacco...
It creates just as much trash when burned.
And people tend to hold it much longer too...

And then, think about all those fools (myself included ) who mix tobacco in with their herbal. Can't be good on the lungs to smoke unfiltered tobacco (in the case of joints and dutches, though it's still probably wholly unhealthy even with water filtration).

 

[freehugs]

And then, think about all those fools (myself included ) who mix tobacco in with their herbal. Can't be good on the lungs to smoke unfiltered tobacco (in the case of joints and dutches, though it's still probably wholly unhealthy even with water filtration).

I have some friends who do this and oh my gosh their bongs are so fucking disgusting xD

 

[Jibult]

I have some friends who do this and oh my gosh their bongs are so fucking disgusting xD

Yeah, dude, my bubbler's done for after about 2 weeks of smoking. Gotta clean the hell out of it after that... just inhaling the air from the chamber'll make me want to puke, and that's not even mentioning how nasty the smoke starts to taste if I neglect cleaning for too long.

 

[squidhead]

If you're smoking some potent weed, a lot of 'hits' aren't necessary. Tobacco smokers inhale 100s of times more during the course of a day. How many inhalations are in 1 cigarette? Times that by 20 & that's what an average tobacco smoker inhales daily.
I can't even see the correlation between the 2. Cigarette manufacturers pump countless chemicals into cigs. Cannabis isn't loaded down with chemicals, so comparing the 2 just doesn't add up.

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

You are BURNING A PLANT... Weed makes way more tar... and is unfiltered in most applications.

Hydrocarbons, hydrogen cyanide... etc is there from burning plant material Period...

No type of smoke is safe and all smoke gives cancer, all smoke makes tar, all smoke causes lung disease...

There are some occasional tobacco smokers just like weed smokers... Not everyone smokes a pack a day.

 

[Jibult]

If you're smoking some potent weed, a lot of 'hits' aren't necessary. Tobacco smokers inhale 100s of times more during the course of a day. How many inhalations are in 1 cigarette? Times that by 20 & that's what an average tobacco smoker inhales daily.
I can't even see the correlation between the 2. Cigarette manufacturers pump countless chemicals into cigs. Cannabis isn't loaded down with chemicals, so comparing the 2 just doesn't add up.

Just saying the end results are similar, even if not even close to being quantitatively comparative. Definitely, cigarettes will fuck you up worse than weed. In my mind, infinitely times worse than weed. But the combustion process is the same, and leaves behind identical and similar... residuals.... even if the... residuals... from one plant is nth times more harmful than the other.

 

[Stevenski]

And then, think about all those fools (myself included ) who mix tobacco in with their herbal. Can't be good on the lungs to smoke unfiltered tobacco (in the case of joints and dutches, though it's still probably wholly unhealthy even with water filtration).

What country are you from J? I mix cigarette with my cannabis & always have but most Australians do whereas most foreigners smoke straight bud. My bong gets very dirty from the added tobacco & mixed or straight you ingest tar regardless when you smoke up. I want to start smoking straight because I need to quit cigarettes.

That brings me to my vent for the day . I ordered a new bong which will be my first GonG bong from a certain maker because their website states "that the processing time is maximum 24 hours provided there are no special requests". I ordered this glassware back on the 6th. As the delivery time said up to 10 days delivery I sent an email on the 21st asking where my package is & got this email trail excluding my name & the senders.

We have some production delay but your order will be sent soon and you will get the tracking then, sorry for this inconvenience,

I replied

Your website states that the processing time is maximum 24 hours provided there are no special requests. The reason why I ordered this glassware is because it would ship so quickly. Considering this item is on backorder I would have expected a courtesy email explaining the delay & providing a shipment date at a minimum rather than me chasing when this will be delivered.

If this cannot be supplied in a timely manner then I will be requesting a refund in full

and got this back

Sorry, normally we ship on time.
May I send a free Mini Bong to compensate the long waiting time a bit?

I replied

Thank you for the gesture. Can you please let me know what you do currently have in stock ready to ship? If I find something I like I will change my order rather than wait.

& got this back

We will send you the item which you ordered and add that Mini Bong to compensate for the hassle,

Am I right to be pissed at this cunts response? I like the bong I purchased but this is shitting me especially the guy on the email. Most customer service people would be happy to sell an in stock item & resolve a customer issue rather than the opposite. Their inventory is not large & they have 50 odd products. This clown has still not given an ETA other than "soon" so I think my next email will be a cancellation request. If they don't agree then I will lodge a CC fraud claim with my bank. Am I being too hard on them?

On the good news front I ordered another bong anyway which should arrive on Monday. Looking forward to 1/2 decent glass to smoke out of .

 

[Jibult]

What country are you from J? I mix cigarette with my cannabis & always have but most Australians do whereas most foreigners smoke straight bud. My bong gets very dirty from the added tobacco & mixed or straight you ingest tar regardless when you smoke up. I want to start smoking straight because I need to quit cigarettes.

USA! More specifically, Maryland. It's definitely an uncommon practice to spin your weed here, even looked down upon by most... But hey, man, I feel fuckin' poor more often than not and tobacco manages to stretch my stash while reducing the need for a cigarette every so often. Hell, when I'm smoking weed I don't even think about cigarettes anymore... those are pretty much for work and when I'm tapped out.


I don't think you're being too hard on a shipper giving you the run-around. Personally, I won't run in circles for just anybody in that situation... more likely than not, I'll be running away from the transaction as a whole.

I would cancel now and demand the refund, provided there are no disclaimers or known "No refunds/all sales are final" issues. If they refuse, go ahead and file the claim. They're in a grey market business anyways, they don't need to complicate shit further by being evasive to a paying customers' logical questions and worries. This kind of issue is exactly why I'm hesitant to shop online from-- err...-- "less than reputable" sources.

 

[Jibult]

Welcome to the DMV, bluelight.


More radio music stuck in my head for days. This one's more because of Tiara Thomas than Wale, though. Song doesn't start until like 1:45... music video intro's and interludes are starting to get kind of annoying.

 

[Stevenski]

When I am smoking bud I smoke a lot less cigarettes. The only problem is I tend to suck down 3 cones every 45 minutes ending up in a stupor on my couch most nights. It looks like they have a no refund policy but I am sure I will be happy enough with the bong when it gets here. I can only recommend that people steer clear of M****o products when purchasing direct from them. I am really looking forward to my stemless honeycomb perc that is on it's way to me .

 

[Jibult]

Hopefully it'll end up well for you. At least they offered an extra piece free of charge.


Those No Refund policies are enough to make me not want to do business with a person or entity, though. My line of thought is that if everything's on the up-and-up, why commit a customer to a product they've yet to receive and the shipper has yet to ship? It just seems shady to me. If neither end of the agreement has been fulfilled then, in my opinion, a person should always be entitled to change their mind.

It would be a different story to me if the item had already shipped, but in this kind of situation I think it's bullshit that a customer can be denied a refund to goods they've paid for but yet to receive.

 

[Jibult]

holymotherfuckingshit.


So I got kind of slighted on a gram of blueberry kush this morning. Didn't really do anything with the bag until around 1pm so I didn't realize until way too late. I was kind of blown but shit was cool, though, I just made another call, made a much longer ride and picked up 3.5 of some more beautiful Cinderella 99. Got back home and decided to take the .8 of Kush and mix it with a gram of the Cindy.






I recommend to any and everyone out there (which from the looks of this thread is like me and 5 other people, so listen up, you 5) to mix these two strains together and blow your fucking head off with a bowlpack. I took two hits-- just two hits-- an hour and a half ago and I'm still fuckin'... fuckin'.... just fuckin' HIGH, man. This is even better than the hash I got a hold of a few months back, the overall high, I mean.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

So I got kind of slighted on a gram of blueberry kush this morning.

You should at the very least call the person out on it.

There's a reason why when I pick up weed (dispensary or not) I see it weighed before I go my separate way.

 

[Stevenski]

Hopefully it'll end up well for you. At least they offered an extra piece free of charge.

I don't mind the freebie even if it is a shitty microbong.

Those No Refund policies are enough to make me not want to do business with a person or entity, though. My line of thought is that if everything's on the up-and-up, why commit a customer to a product they've yet to receive and the shipper has yet to ship? It just seems shady to me. If neither end of the agreement has been fulfilled then, in my opinion, a person should always be entitled to change their mind.

It would be a different story to me if the item had already shipped, but in this kind of situation I think it's bullshit that a customer can be denied a refund to goods they've paid for but yet to receive.

This is the first bad online experience I have had. Most sellers are really good to deal with & actually offer customer service. Even then this is not a case of being ripped off but shoddy customer service from a company. If I was in America I would use iXXXXr as there is sick handblown stuff reasonably cheap & I may take that punt soon enough.

One thing I do like about online is I can support small business & I don't need to pay for a fancy store with fuckheaded slackjawed staff to provide no customer service. It is a case of login, buy & have delivered to my office/home. Quick clean & simple.

I recommend to any and everyone out there (which from the looks of this thread is like me and 5 other people, so listen up, you 5) to mix these two strains together and blow your fucking head off with a bowlpack. I took two hits-- just two hits-- an hour and a half ago and I'm still fuckin'... fuckin'.... just fuckin' HIGH, man. This is even better than the hash I got a hold of a few months back, the overall high, I mean.

Sux about being rorted for such a small amount of bud. The good news is that you got to enjoy cocktails & cocktails taste good. I still remember when I was 17 meeting up with 2 mates & we all had 3.5g to get us from Friday to Sunday. We had different killer strains of hydro which in mid 90's Sydney was a miracle in itself & I think it may be the most stoned I have ever been.

 

[shimazu]

ahhhh I love smoking weed and watching baseball, it's the only way I can enjoy it really. About to grill some food about

fucking america man