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Yopo Seeds & DMT Difficulties

boiler25

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Hey guys, first time posting, but been lurking for quite some time here, hoping someone can give me some input into my interest in pursuing a successful DMT trip. I've delved in a few other psychedelics (eg. LSD, LSA, Psilocybin, 25I-NBOMe, 2C-B, Salvia Divinorum) so I'm not without some experience, but I'm a bit stumped about DMT. It's not something that is readily available to me, so I looked into the route of Yopo Seeds to perhaps give me an introduction of sorts to DMT, but it didn't go quite as well as I'd expected... :?

I done a bit of research and it seemed to me this was my best shot at trying the Yopo seeds, avoiding insufflation. I first began by heating some Sodium Bicarbonate for approx. 1 hour @ 200°C to enable thermal decomposition to Sodium Carbonate. In the meantime I roasted the Yopo seeds for approx 10 mins on a low heat until the husks were crispy and easy to remove, leaving the yellow/orange/brown innards intact. These were crushed until a slightly coarse powder was produced. Taking careful measurements as I went, I added Sodium Carbonate in a 1:4 salt to seed powder mixture and began adding a few ml's of water until a thick paste was produced. This was mixed thoroughly and heated gently until almost anhydrous.

I then measured out 0.5g, which equated to approx 3 seeds, worth of powder and placed on a small bed of tobacco in a water filled, triple percolator ice bong and proceeded to smoke. After maybe the 2nd or 3rd hit, I could feeling it taking hold, but being very harsh on the throat. By the 5th or 6th I had to lay down. This is where it became a bit rough... I began to sweat a lot, and what seemed hyperthermia set in, I struggled to get my shirt off and was feeling extremely nauseous just a couple of minutes in. There was one of the worst body loads I've ever experienced coming on as well, so I had trouble enjoying the closed eye visuals. After approx 5 mins, I got open eye visuals too, with everything around me blurring as if vibrating at great speed, and colours shifting frequently, favouring a green hue. After a few more minutes of keeping my eyes closed, the body load and nausea began to subside slightly. Over approx the next 10 mins or so the open and closed eye visuals subsided until just a strange afterglow remained. I felt very weak, unsteady on my feet and confused for approx 1 hour until returning to baseline, and was left with a somewhat negative feeling towards the whole thing.

The visuals weren't anything spectacular, especially given the fact the last time I had tripped was with 1600ug of 25I-NBOMe a few months prior. It had a heavy but manageable body load, with the most intense visuals I've experienced. The Yopo seeds caused a much more intense, unpleasant body load and nausea which basically ruined the trip for me, especially due to the rapid overheating. I'm wondering is there a problem with my preparation, dosage, etc? Any input here would be appreciated, or should I just find some N,N-DMT? :\

Cheers!
 
That's bufotinine..not dmt, both carny shit to me, but ymmv. If you want dmt, a mhrb acid to base is not that hard to do..just takes some time and money.
 
Time and money I have, I was merely trying to start off light. From what I know Yopo contain mostly 5-OH-DMT, as well as smaller amounts of 5-MeO-DMT and N,N-DMT. I'm wondering if it's safe to continue experimenting with the Yopo given the harsh side effects, and would the same side effects be prevalent in pure DMT?

I'll look into an extraction using mimosa hostilis, however I was planning on making a traditional ayahuasca brew with caapi, so perhaps I'll start there first.
 
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Finally walked up to the pool last night but I just dipped my toes in. 4 'yopo' beans were toasted, the coat removed, the inside seed (which already looked like a freebase tryptamine) was crushed to a powder, some sodium bicarb was added...just enough...couple drops of water to make it pasty.....all heated and stired on a spoon till dry...it smelled like DMT.


Anyway, smoked a single hit.....the stuff works! Only had about 2 beans worth but first pins and needles, and a stomach ache that went away very quickly...felt a bit stimulated but nothing annoying, then intense closed eye visuals that kicked in over about 5 minutes...open-eyed visuals mostly looked unique...like colored strobe lights, along with normal 'psilocin-like' visuals. All and all pretty unique. Experience was short, less than an hour and I feel right asleep.

I cannot believe how potent 2 beans can be. Will have to get some 'pickling lime' and see if it makes a difference. Not sure I will try snorting these beans....more of an IM man myself but I am REALLY impressed so far with smoking them.
 
Are these ingridients legal? Seems like an awesome experience. Anything like N-N,DMT?
 
Are these ingridients legal? Seems like an awesome experience. Anything like N-N,DMT?

Not sure about elsewhere but 5-HO-DMT (bufotenine) is a C1 in the US&A. Nope, not at all like DMT or 5-MeO-DMT. Really unique...some of it reminds me of a muscle shot of psilocin, but the 'flashes' and CEV content were......unique. Can't wait to explore further.
 
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