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Mdma tolerance/dose

Jeromaya

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I'll start by giving some background in case any of it is relevant.
I first used mdma about 6 years ago in pill form, eaten.
All my mates who ate 1 of the same ones had a mean time, it was my first time we had tested them and I don't know the dose but they contained mdma.
I didn't even seem to feel a thing which surprised everyone, I was not on any medication (ssris etc).
I didn't give a second thought to the stuff till maybe 9 months later when some new pills started going around that got everyone excited and my friend twisted my rubber arm.
This time I thought I would take 2 (I understand now that when you don't know the dose of what your taking much more care than this should be used) and on his advice plugged them.
This time was much different and quite satisfying and I think it might be relevant that my first proper experience was a large dose of what was apparently nice stuff.

Pills that good just sort of ceased to exist where I live after that and that was it for me until a couple years later when I started sourcing online.
By this point I had tried various amphetamines and opiates hating them all, only psychedelics and weed seemed to agree with my personal brain chemistry. Someone passed off some tabs as acid which I think were actually 25i nbome and I stupidly took too many of them (done this with acid occasionally with much nicer results).
The resulting severe panic attack (at one point during it I truly thought I was going to die) left me very cautious and unwilling to trust people.
Then a close friend and partner in crime convinced me to do mdma with him, the therapeutic benefits of that experience were incredible I made allmost a full recovery from my anxious hermit state in one night.

I will also note here I don't seem to get the same come down as other people even at very high doses, I get an afterglow which is actually quite pleasant...

Since I was used to having easy access to drugs I am quite strict with myself about how often I would take things, With mdma I wait at least 2 months.
However I still found myself gaining tolerance and after a while became uncomfortable with the size of the oral and plugged doses I was taking.
I switched to IV and dropped my dose way back down again but as time has gone by I'm now up to 250-300mg for a dose.
There was a gap of all most 6 months in between my last two doses and still my tolerance is like this.
My friends GF joined us for my most recent dose, she took 40mg and seemed to have the time of her life, this has left me quite nervous about what I might end up doing to myself should my current pattern of increasing dose continues unabated.

What I really want to know is how many people out there take these kinds of doses or higher? What effects have they experienced? Why do I seem to have such a naturally high tolerance?
Do I still get the same risks from a high dose as a person with a low tolerance? Is there any way I can get more out of my experiences without resorting to IV or high doses? I can't take potent psychedelics without getting anxious (thanks asshole who sold me those $&%$%^%ing tabs) and it would be a real shame to do without molly, it coaxed me out of a prison in my mind of my own making and I really like the social effects.

If you do reply to this thanks for taking the time to read but if you give me advice please try to back it up with actual facts/data if possible.
I see people telling people what to do or not to do based solely on their own ideas about whats right or wrong.
For example simply saying "don't IV it its wrong/bad" sounds to me just like someone saying "don't plug it things aren't supposed to go in there".
If that's your opinion cool but I'm not really interested in opinions, I would like to know some idea of what I can expect or should be trying to avoid.

If anyone has personal experience with high doses I would appreciate them dropping me a pm telling me a bit about it, maybe don't post replys here saying stuff like "500mg is sweet as" since for most people it most certainly isn't.

*disclaimer I do not advocate taking doses this high or using needles, all needles that I choose to use are brand new from the local needle exchange program and I use blue (0.22 micron) wheel filters*
 
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I'm going to move this over to the ecstasy discussion forum.

Homeless --> ED
 
Thanks Tommyboy!

Hey Jeromaya welcome to Bluelight :)

Is the 250-300mg one shot or a few throughout the night?
Do you think perhaps your expectations of mdma are maybe too high?
Could the novelty perhaps be wearing thin and you have become accustomed to the effects?
You seem to be implying that you dont feel tolerance is an issue?
 
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Thanks, in answer to your questions:
One shot, I always get the desire to re-dose but I don't because I don't like putting holes in my arm and it seems like mostly a waste.
I would say the novelty is gone yes, and psychedelics always kept me on my toes a bit so I suppose I project those expectations onto my mdma experiences.
I really don't seem to react the same as others to these kinds of chemicals, a lot of people I know are really into methylone atm and I barely get anything off it. Tried some others too like 6apb and I allways end up thinking lame now I have to wait a couple months before I can try good ol md again. Taking it much sooner yields disappointing results.
The thing is I can get a very nice roll on but I'd rather not push my tolerance to the stratosphere if I can avoid it.
The only people I have met who have taken doses this high IV are extremely cavalier about the risks and I haven't heard much about the effects other than stories about bad shots or ODs which I'm fairly confident I can avoid.
I might start another thread about how to ease myself back into enjoying psychedelics.
 
If tolerance is your problem, take longer breaks between doses. Try taking a year off, for all we know that may do the trick.

How large were the "uncomfortable" oral doses you were taking?

Honestly, if you took MDMA at two month intervals for six years then I'm not at all surprised that you've had some tolerance buildup. For some people, that kind of use stacks up over the years.
 
If tolerance is your problem, take longer breaks between doses. Try taking a year off, for all we know that may do the trick.

How large were the "uncomfortable" oral doses you were taking?

Honestly, if you took MDMA at two month intervals for six years then I'm not at all surprised that you've had some tolerance buildup. For some people, that kind of use stacks up over the years.

I know my post is long but if you read it you'll notice the first two years of that time I had it twice and needed more than my peers even then. I also had 6 months between my last two uses, I figured I wouldn't need as much and took 180 it was nice but fairly gentle considering the amount and ROA. My friends gf took 40 and I'm not saying I should expect effects like hers but it kinda made me wonder.

I took a couple oral doses around 400mg when I was struggling to deal with my gf of over 4 years cheating on me stealing from me and then leaving me (because I told her I was going to stop my "high risk entrepreneurial behavior") for some crack dealing fuckwit. Absolutely the worst time to do that kind of thing I know but I can't change the past I just want to be more careful in the future.

I know the safest bet is to just stop entirely. Much like I want to take the "safe" option and never love someone ever again. But you have to take a little calculated risk sometimes in life or its going to be very boring.

Anyone have any actual effects or harm minimization advice? I've seen acetone wash advocated does anyone know what water soluble byproducts I might be advised to remove? Its fairly decent stuff from the Netherlands all still same batch that I asked my mate who doesn't use to hold onto. He only ever gives me so much so often, easier that way.

I used to enjoy a lot more variety but I'm so jaded now.
 
Quitting MDMA is not the same as not loving someone ever again. You're harming yourself with these ridiculous doses. Purifying your MDMA won't do much.
 
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